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McCandless

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This ain't gonna change nuthin' or settle no arguments... just would like ta know fer sure, fer myself.

Shooter shoots 9 pistol shots instead of the required 10. Holsters, moves on, finishes the stage.

There's an empty under the hammer.

 

Would you call a Miss or a Procedural or sumthin' else?

 

Thanks!

McC

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Miss only.

 

cc

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OK - A miss only makes sense, there is no specific penalty for a live round left in a pistol as long as it isn't under the hammer.

 

I like to skim thru the handbooks on questions like this, and came across the following -

 

RO I page 25 Under Penalty Overview

Procedural Penalties

Any unintentional procedural errors caused by “brain fade,” confusion, ignorance, or mistakes

(not to exceed one for any given stage).

• Failure to attempt to fire a firearm.

 

My question is, what the heck does that mean? What is an example of when a P would be called for that?

 

Grizz, just thinkin and scratchin my bald head...

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Inadvertently leaving unfired rounds in a revolver is a miss unless the round is under the hammer, then it is a Stage Disqualification.
SHB pp.14 & 23 / RO1 p.16 / RO2 p.9
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PWB -

 

What would an example be for a P for "• Failure to attempt to fire a firearm."

 

Flat refusing to shoot the shotgun would seem more like a failure to engage SOG, so what is a failure to attempt to fire?

 

Just tryin to understand here.

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PWB -

 

What would an example be for a P for "• Failure to attempt to fire a firearm."

 

Flat refusing to shoot the shotgun would seem more like a failure to engage SOG, so what is a failure to attempt to fire?

 

Just tryin to understand here.

 

Howdy GD,

FWIW - This NOT a very common occurrence.

 

Example for a R/P/P/SG stage sequence:

Shooter has malfunction (base pin issue?) with first pistol.

Situation is eventually remedied; shooter gets all five rounds to fire...moves on to SG.

In the confusion, all parties on the line forget about the 2nd revolver.

Five unfired rounds found in second revolver at ULT.

Shooter gets a "P" for "failure to attempt to fire a firearm".

Shooter also gets five misses for the unfired rounds.

 

(btw - this is NOT a case of "A miss cannot cause a procedural"...it was the "P" that led to the assessment of misses)

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Thank y'all, I feel better now knowin' that the correct call wuz made.

 

my thanks,

McC

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