The Original Bad Bob Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I have a 16" Rossi 92 with the standard lever. I would like to have the large loop lever on it. Does anyone know how I could go about this? I think I can call Rossi and buy the part and just have any good gunsmith swap them out, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Fill 'Em 67797 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Yep, that's doable. The large loop isn't the fastest, but you get style points for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Bad Bob Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 Yeah, it would slow me down, but I want to learn how to work it one handed, like the Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Yup, it can be done. But i would be concerned with using the gun as the Duke did. Remember that you have to keep the muzzle within the 170 degree cone. That is a good rule for general shooting as well as a cowboy match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Frank Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Yeah, it would slow me down, but I want to learn how to work it one handed, like the Duke. The big loop levers look cool, but I'm not sure too many folks are going to want to shoot with you while your twirling the rifle like the Duke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jake1001 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 You better wear a leather pad or cuff on your bicep, cuz you're gonna cut your arm. Lotsa people tried this and ended up with a front sight embedded in their arm. Just sayin' Big Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I have a 16" Rossi 92 with the standard lever. I would like to have the large loop lever on it. Does anyone know how I could go about this? I think I can call Rossi and buy the part and just have any good gunsmith swap them out, right? OB Bob, Some folks use their 92's for things other than CAS. Some folks just like the look. Some folks like the big loops to use when hunting in cold weather and wearing gloves. Here's a pair of 454 Casull cal 92's with the 3/4 size big loop. TU-TONE BEAD BLASTED 454 CASULL 92'S If Rossi doesn't have them let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I have a stainless 45 LC Rossi with a wide loop lever and 20" barrel. I got the part directly from Rossi although they only technically sell it for a 16" barreled gun (the only model that comes straight from the factory with one). It was a "drop in part" for me. I did have one slight issue however; In closing the lever, the round chambers and the bolt fully closes but the lever is off the lower tang about an 1/8" to slightly more. This does not affect functioning at all, but just something to note. Smithy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 If your arms are long enough twirling it like the Duke did should be no problem. I have one on a Winchester Trapper that works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pathfinder, SASS #985 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I've got large loops on both my Rossi's, one a 16" 45 Colt that came with it and the other a 20" 44-40 that I added later. Now if'n I could find a 16" 44-40 I might just have to add another to the stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Bad Bob Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 I wouldn't do the Duke twirl with a loaded gun at the range, or doing CAS. That would be dangerous and would most likely get me into some hot water. Mainly I just like the looks. Nate K.J. those are some really purty rifles. I might be contacting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Here's "The Rifleman" technique. Takes a minute or two for the video to load, but it does a nice job of showing it from a few different angles. http://www.riflemansrifle.com/video/original_demo.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I wouldn't do the Duke twirl with a loaded gun at the range, or doing CAS. That would be dangerous and would most likely get me into some hot water. Mainly I just like the looks. Nate K.J. those are some really purty rifles. I might be contacting you. Doing it with an unloaded gun will get you thrown off the range just as fast. Hope all the idiots that are trying this-loaded or unloaded, do so far off in the wilderness somewhere all by themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Yeah, it would slow me down, but I want to learn how to work it one handed, like the Duke. Shoot your arm pit off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Hooker Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 You better wear a leather pad or cuff on your bicep, cuz you're gonna cut your arm. Lotsa people tried this and ended up with a front sight embedded in their arm. Just sayin' Big Jake +1. The Duke and the Rifleman were 6-4 and 6-6, respectively, and they had to use special short-barreled guns to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 +1. The Duke and the Rifleman were 6-4 and 6-6, respectively, and they had to use special short-barreled guns to do it. Nope, the Chuck Conners Rifleman 92's were stock 20" carbines. I have a picture of him somewhere where he is twirling 2, one in each hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Just because you saw a photo or video of something does not make it true or safe. Heck some folks believe those old movie cowboy guns could shoot 20 or more rounds without reloading. Some folks believe heroes like John Wayne never did anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Bad Bob Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Geeze - what a heated debate over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Just because you saw a photo or video of something does not make it true... Are you saying that Holyweird movie I just watch ain't real? Some folks believe heroes like John Wayne never did anything wrong. Sacrilege! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Are you saying that Holyweird movie I just watch ain't real? Sacrilege! Well I saw him arrested by the Mounties for illegally bringing a plane full of beer into Canada during a beer truck driver strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Geeze - what a heated debate over this. Have fun with it. The rifle, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Just because you saw a photo or video of something does not make it true or safe. Heck some folks believe those old movie cowboy guns could shoot 20 or more rounds without reloading. Some folks believe heroes like John Wayne never did anything wrong. Good lawd man, nowhere in his post did he ever say he planned to do this at any range much less a CAS shoot. Several folks have warned him of the safety issues. What he does on his own is his business. Only unless you are in range, his gun hamdling abilities are really none of your business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Bad Bob Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 I'm 6'3" and I have long arms and I promise to never do this at any gun range or shooting event or within range of anything I do not plan to shoot. If I embed the front site in the right bicep, I also promise to take a picture and post it here for all to enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Any pards know if Rossi and Winchester 92 levers can be swapped out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Bad Bob Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Here's "The Rifleman" technique. Takes a minute or two for the video to load, but it does a nice job of showing it from a few different angles. http://www.riflemansrifle.com/video/original_demo.html Thanks for that. That guy has it DOWN! He makes it look easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Aweome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabalero Chuck Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I was on Cabela's site Wednesday, and the auto-advertising 'bot was pushing a big loop lever(part only) on me for $158 and change, I didn't follow it any further but it was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Bad Bob Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 I was on Cabela's site Wednesday, and the auto-advertising 'bot was pushing a big loop lever(part only) on me for $158 and change, I didn't follow it any further but it was there. Wow. That's pretty pricey for one part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Augustus #6390 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Try what I did, do a WTB/WTT on the classified. There's plenty of cowpokes who have the large loop and want the smaller one. Or have a large loop put away. I think I got mine for $60 and later sold the smaller one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I'm 6'3" and I have long arms and I promise to never do this at any gun range or shooting event or within range of anything I do not plan to shoot. If I embed the front site in the right bicep, I also promise to take a picture and post it here for all to enjoy! That's the spirit~! My son, Sassparilla Kid, installed one on his Rossi and loves it. Hasn't shot a match with it (yet!) but figures he will someday - he recognizes he won't ever win any speed competitions, and shoots for accuracy and enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rube Burrows Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have a big loop Rossi in .45 Colt and love the look of it. I bought it because my son loves the Rifleman and wanted a gun similar to his. You will always have the people on here who freak out when you tell them you want a big loop rifle. Of course if you want to twirl it like the Rifleman or the Duke try it unloaded. Just because you get a lever action dont mean you are going to do this at a match. I have lots of Lever guns that never will see a match. I say.....if you like it then get it. Who cares if its "fast" or "practical" for CAS. I like mind a lot. http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm30/wheeler331/100_2419.jpg http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm30/wheeler331/100_2437.jpg Mine has the 16" barrel if I remember right and I did catch the front sight on my forearm and sliced it open. Im not sure about the Duke....but know that Connors did use a 20" barrel. Pics of the Dukes gun to me still looks like its a 20" barrel but I dont know for fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHL Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Well I saw him arrested by the Mounties for illegally bringing a plane full of beer into Canada during a beer truck driver strike. My respect for the memory of the Duke just grew. I didn't think that was possible. (meaning I already highly respect him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiren Smoke GUNFIGHTER Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have read that Conners used a 20" carbine and the Duke used a 20" also through most of his career only resorting to a shorter bbl later on. Even then it was an 18" IIRC. Conners' was modified with the lock screw that tripped the trigger and a set screw at the top of the receiver near the chamber to hold the next round in the gun as it is spun, and guide the round into the chamber. I wonder if that mod were allowed in CAS if the 92s could operate as fast as the Marlins and 73s. Being a Duke fan I had to have a big loop when I started CAS. Yes I have the scar er uh I mean badge of honor to prove my spin cocking ability. Even tried it with dummy rounds. With out the mod the next round drops out of the gun when it is up side down. I used a couple of different techniques with the large loop. One was to grasp the front of the loop like a pistol grip and lever with the web of my thumb. Another that worked well for many years right up until I upgraded to a 73 was to take a short leather lace and tie it with a big knot inside the loop where it joins the trigger guard. I then levered using my middle finger just like a standard loop. Hope this helps, Smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulH Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have to agree with Smoke. I have a Rossi in .357 with the large loop and a 16" barrel. If you manage to spin the rifle, without having the front site hit your shoulder or bicep, then the round usually falls out or hangs up when the rifle is upside down. I'm just under 6'1" but I did manage to do the spin, on occasion, but it really only works with an empty rifle. With that said, I don't do it all that often because I'm afraid I might bend or stress the lever's link. Now, for CAS, I do use the large loop, but after my 1st time, I got a lever wrap. I found that the loop wasn't conducive to quick cycling. My knuckles would bang the steel loop pretty hard as I tried to work it fast. It's still a lot of fun, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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