RHL Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 First hello to everyone at the forum. I'm John alias Rosado Hombre Lobo. (yep, pink man wolf... long story) Second, I've heard some talk about a few Uberti issues and thought I'd pass mine along. I picked a couple of Uberti Revolvers up at separate times and each seems to have issues of its own, right out of the box. .45LC Cattleman New Model. The pin that holds the cylinder pin in place likes to move about on me. I've tried several techniques and can't seem to perfect the placement. I took it to my dealer and he thought he had it but when I got home and looked at it... he wasn't any better than I was. The good/bad thing is that the gunwon't fire if the pin isn't in place correctly. Y'all see the pros and cons of this with the pros outweighing the cons. .357 Cattleman Bisley. Shot like a dream with .38 specials in it. Beautiful gun. I buy some practice loads and after firing one box of ammo and running the gun through the practice ammo a couple of times, I hear a screw hit the floor. I find the lil bugger, luckily. So, I'm thinking its blue LockTite for all of the lil screws. Since three more were loose. I really like the guns ( REALLY like the Bisley) but I think my next purchases will be USFA, maybe Colt. So check your Uberti Cattlemen before sending lead down range. Happy safe shooting to y'all.
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 Howdy & Welcome to a fellow "wolf person". I've made a habit of checking the screws on ANY firearm after extensive use on the range. ...during the cleaning process and/or just prior to match use. That goes for Ubertis, Piettas, Colts, USFAs, Winchesters & especially the Marlin.
Buck Bisley Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 Welcome to the fire and welcome to the bum italian gun club. Some love them and have had great luck with them. Me, not so much. The Uberti rifles seem to be a bit better then their handguns; but if you scan the threads there are those who have had issues with them as well. Good Luck in your endeavours to procure your gear.
RHL Posted February 4, 2011 Author Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks for the welcomes and the advice fellas. I'll certainly peruse the threads to see what others issues I need to address. Like one of the older farmer's told us when I was a young farm kid, "you've got livestock, you've got problems. you've got machinery, you've got problems."
Matthew Duncan Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 First welcome! Second, I'm told that I always have a screw loose somewhere
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 RHL, Well .... I hate to burst your balloon ....... but ...... the loose screws you describe happen on ALL the Single Action handguns, regardless of the manufacture. Colt use to be so bad they put little washers under all the screws to "almost" keep them tight. You can use a drop of blue LocTight. Check them regular anyway. Your base pin problem is common to all the imports with "two position" base pins. There is probably a rough spot in the bushing or on the end of the pin. Your best bet is to remove the base pin, cut the last 3/16 off, re-bevel the end of the pin and then polish it. After that, you seat it all the way in and be done with it. Welcome to a fun game. Don't get frustrated with your equipment. All the guns we use are less than optimum for this game right out of the box. Plus, it keeps me in business Coffinmaker
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 Welcome, I agree with the others, I usually shoot Rugers and a Marlin and the screws on them will loosen up as well. Dont forget to check shotgun screws as well. Enjoy this is a great game. Randy http://wartracecowboys.blogspot.com/
RHL Posted February 4, 2011 Author Posted February 4, 2011 hehe, I'm a bit screwy myself... at least thats what my friends say. I'll check the base pin out. I could handle something along the lines of shortening the pin and re-beveling the end in the shop. Anything more elaborate and I'll need to ship it to a gunsmith. Thanks again for the welcome and help.
Barterin Bill Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 Welcome to the fire...I mean wire. If the Uberti's are BP frame (remove a screw to get the cylinder pin out) it has two position pins. The deepest one is a "safe mode" to prevent a child, or anyone who is not supposed to from firing it. It keeps the hammer from falling far enough to hit the primer. What Coffinmaker said will prevent that from happening. If you want to leave them original, it just takes practice and getting use to where to place the pins because the screw moves it deeper as you tighten it. I have learned that it helps to have the hammer down when placing the pin. If it starts moving the hammer while tightening the screw, you know you are in the wrong groove. This gave me fits when I first got my Uberti's. Like everyone else said, all revolers have screws come loose (rifles and shotguns too). I normally check all the screw after shooting, in case I don't get a chance before a shoot. I also keep a screw driver on my gun cart.
RHL Posted February 4, 2011 Author Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks Barterin Bill, I appreciate hearing from another Uberti owner. It seems that I've got it in place right now and it is solid and moving correctly. I'll be attentive when I clean it again. Y'all are the bestest.
Nota John, SASS #51089L Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Two items; On my pre-match checklist, one items is " Check Screws ". Purple Loctite is also a good idea. If you take note, when the base pin is in the " Fire " position, the base pin end does not project from the frame in the hammer slot. When the base pin is in the " Safe " position, the base pin end projects from the frame in the hammer slot. Easy enough to visually check. Don't ask how I discovered this. Good shooting, welcome to the game. Nota John
BIG TIM Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 RHL, Welcome Welcome......You will find tht this sport is the most fun you can have dressed!! I have Uberti's and they work great. You do have to keep an eye on the screews. You will also find tht the screes that holds the ejecor rod tub will come loose also. I have used the blue lock tight and have almost got the problem of loose screws fixed. I have also put clear finger nail polish on in a pinch. You might want to get a couple extra bolt springs as these will break in time. I also have extra base pin screws and ejector rod screws that I keep in the gun cart just in case. I have shot lots of bullets through both of the pistols over the last 5 years and they are still going strong. I have friends that have diffrent makes of guns and they too have loose screw issues in more than one way
RHL Posted February 5, 2011 Author Posted February 5, 2011 Well, its good to see that I am not the only one with a screw (or two or three) loose. I might have to try the purple loctite since I can't lay my paws on my tube of blue right now. (motorcycles like to use quite a bit of loctite at times too) I really do like these guns. A bit eclectic since I have one in a 5 1/2"bbl .357 Bisley and another in 4 3/4" bbl .45LC plow-handle but my left arm has issues and the Bisley with the lower hammer spur just fits right in there when I do use the left to fire. I ordered a Mernickle holster and had the toughest time explaining how I wanted to change the rig. (cross-draw, different bullet loops... adding bullet loops) But, just like y'all, they were very accommodating to a new guy. I'm looking forward to joining up with the local group. I just need to get over my initial shyness and give em a ring.
RHL Posted February 5, 2011 Author Posted February 5, 2011 P.S. Big Tim... Did you get the gun parts directly from Uberti or other means? (If you don't mind me asking.)
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 P.S. Big Tim... Did you get the gun parts directly from Uberti or other means? (If you don't mind me asking.) VTI Gunparts is who you need to talk to for Uberti parts. Before the Beretta buyout, it was part of Uberti and was ran by Maria Uberti. They know their guns and can help you out.
RHL Posted February 5, 2011 Author Posted February 5, 2011 VTI Gunparts is who you need to talk to for Uberti parts. Before the Beretta buyout, it was part of Uberti and was ran by Maria Uberti. They know their guns and can help you out. Thank you for the information! I read a letter written by Maria Uberti about A. Uberti and it seems like they were a close family while he was alive. Parts ordered, thanks again.
Iron Pony Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 RHL welcome to the sport, you are getting good advice, I'll offer some more that may or may not be good. Along with ordering parts get the proper screwdriver bits from Brownells or such. They have small sets that are made up for guns like the SAA etc and along with a good handle you will be much better served. Lots of shooters carry a set in their gun cart to check stuff before after or during a match. Ref the base pins, while you are parts shopping look at Belt Mtn base pins and extra power springs for the latch. They are well worth the cost as far as I'm concerned and get rid of the goofy "safety" pin. They have gone on every SAA style and Ruger handgun I've owned after a certain incident in Maine where a SAA turned into an open top because of the safety style pin jumping forward. In addition to bolt springs a couple of hand springs isnt a bad idea either, having one preinstalled/prefitted in a hand can make a field expedient change a LOT easier. Others may not have trouble with the little boogers but they are tough for me to change, especially on the gun cart or unlading table etc. And since no one has mentioned it the best spare parts kit is, of course, back up guns. It never hurts to have extra shooting irons at a match and just think of the combinations you can come up with.
Buckshot Frank Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Clear nail polish is about the same strength as purple loctite and is much cheaper.
RHL Posted February 7, 2011 Author Posted February 7, 2011 The Blue Mtn base pins look awesome! I'll have to grab a few. Clear polish... I'll have to sneak some from the better half. lol Thanks! I appreciate the info and my bookmarks are getting nice & long under the SASS folder.
The Shoer 27979 Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Hey RHL where in the far-nor-cal are you
Abanaki, SASS #34557 Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Welcome to the bunch i've got a bunch of Uberti's and they do have some issues sometimes. None of them are major and i've found similar problems with colts and all their clones. Rugers due to their more current design seem to have less teething problems. Still I do love my conversions, open tops and thunderers and do shoot the heck out of them. Enjoy the game with us it's the best there is. Abanaki
RHL Posted February 7, 2011 Author Posted February 7, 2011 Hey RHL where in the far-nor-cal are you I'm in Bayside. Right between Eureka and Arcata California. I see that you are in the Ukiah area. I like it down in them parts!
RHL Posted February 7, 2011 Author Posted February 7, 2011 Abanaki, I really like the 1858 Rem. conversion and they have a nice article in the last "Guns of the Old West about the New Army. I think a lot of the conversions are more elegant than the SAA models. I asked my dealer about them but he doesn't keep any in stock to put in my grubby lil paws.
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