Rico Kid Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Well, I've decided to invest in another 1873 in .357 caliber to match my .38 Colts. I own a straight stock '73 in .44-40 and would like to load one caliber for both rifles and pistols. I've seen a pretty nice Uberti '73 for sale on the classified and was wondering if the pistol grip was any faster or slower. Does that curved lever make for a longer or shorter throw? Or is the difference insignificant. Appreciate your input pards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Fill 'Em 67797 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Don't know if it's any faster, but I like the pistol grip better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairshake Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It's a Baskin Robbins question as there are shooters who will whip you with the straight and vise versa. On looks I own the pistol grip as I think it has more eye appeal. If it makes you faster then I have not pressed the correct button yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Kid Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Fairshake....appreciate your input, but the question of which throw is longer is not really opinion is it? By the way, I believe the FAST button is located only on rifles ordered in the custom shop and can only be purchased by the top ten shooters at End of Track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Lets see, you could get the pistol grip using the reasoning it's nice to have one of each... Or you could get a straight stock figuring that it would be easier to switch back and forth between the two rifles. Me, I'm not fast enough for it to matter even if there is a speed difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Kid Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Grizz...I like your thinking. If'n I had the pesos I'd get one of each!!! By the way, I'm the fellow that Pack Saddle was referring to a while back. I make those neck knives. I looked over your "collection" and they are too short for my purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiren Smoke GUNFIGHTER Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Rico, The lever throw is determined by the internal links not by the external lever. If the pistol grip had the lever down lower than the straight grip (which it does not) the lever would have to go farther forward to compensate. I have had both and the lever doesn't start to curve until half way back. So unless you have very thick fingers you won't notice it. In fact you could put a PG lever on a straight stock and it would fit and operate perfectly. A straight lever would not work on a PG stock because the rear of the lever would contact the lower tang before it was fully closed. If you find a used pistol grip for the same price as a straight grip get it. All things being equal the PG cost slightly more than the SG when new. Hope this helps, Smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunrunner joe #17093 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 The throw is is the same. Rule book tell how short you can make the throw on bout straight stock and Pistol grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hoss Carpenter, SASS Life 7843 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I have had both in 45 Colt. I prefer the straight stock for its looks. Remember the movie, "Winchester 73"?), but enjoyed shooting them both. Hoss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck D. Law, SASS #62183 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 One is not faster than the other. It's all about what you're accustomed to. If you get a pistol grip, it'll take a while to adjust, but in time it'll become as natural feeling as the straight stock. My advice would be: It the deal you find is a pistol grip and you like it, buy it and if the deal is on a straight stock and you like it, buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 You need to handle both styles together at the same time. I like the looks of the pistol grip. However I find I can not get my fingers to conform to the curve of the lever. So all my long guns have straight stocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I'm not sure about the lever throw issue but, straight vs. pistol grip stock is more about sight picture than lever throw. (IMHO) With a straight stock the sights end up being lower so a shorter necked person would probably like that best. A pistol grip puts the sight plane higher which is usually better for longer necked folks so they don't have to bend their heads down to see the sights. Try getting an example of each type of stock. Bring them both up to your shoulder from Port Arms and see which one offers a better sight picture without having to move your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uno Mas SASS #80082 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Don't know if it's any faster, but I like the pistol grip straight stock better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Train Robber 13659 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I have both style rifles and on mine at least the drop is identical so the sight picture is identical . the throw is the same . To me the difference is the stock is a mite bit fatter and a tad heavier due to the pistol grip part of the stock . For all practical operating purposes they feel the same . If you are running it hard the checkering on the pistol grips forearm does help you grip it and shove it back tight into your shoulder.....and if you are running it fast you'll never put your thumb back over the grip so the fatter part is a none issue . While we're talking about the throw ......unless you need the short stroke for reasons of physical infirmity 99% of shooters will never practice enough to be significently faster with a shortstroked rifle than one that is just "tuned" . Regards, Train Robber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Woodrow Cahill, SASS # 54363 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Aside from the look, consider the mechanics of your other guns particularly your shotgun. Most likely it has a pistol grip instead of the straight English style. Seems it's easier to transition between the two if your wrist is at approximately the same angle on each. FWIW I have one of the Deluxe Border Rifles with the pistol grip and octogon barrel. Compared to the straight stock model, I find it easier to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I went from a straight stock '92 to a pistol grip '73. The '73 is a Codymatic which has a shorter throw than the '92. There were no transition issues for me and I love the '73. I've shot other '66 and '73 Codymatics and IMHO the style of stock is a non issue in terms of function. BTW, I originally wanted a straight stock, but when I ordered it from Cody last June, the pistol grips were readily available, while the others were not. As of last fall, that was still an issue, so you might ask if that's still the case. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Chris Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Mine is a straight stock, and I've never tried the pistol grip. Don't see how it would matter all that much though, once I pick up the gun and have it at my shoulder I'm not holding onto the stock anyways. My grip is on the forearm and my right hand just works the lever. I do think the pistol grip looks good and the checkering on the forearm would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Kid Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks for the input pards.....you've given me good food for thought. So.....I'll wait and see what pops up for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I have both and cannot really tell any difference between the two styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 JMO, no difference between the two. One difference though between the two is the price, pistol grip stock cost a slight bit more than straight stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cofachique Dick Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I have both, and the biggest difference is the checkering on the forearm on the pistol grip rifle really helps me hold on better. C D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Roy, SASS #71853 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Don't know if it's any faster, but I like the pistol grip better. + 1. Ricochet Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I like my PG stock, however there is one drawback. I decided a few months ago that I wanted to get rid of the crescent shape on the butt of my stock. I wanted something flatter. I didn’t want to cut the original stock so I started looking for a replacement to cut. Straight stocks for 73’s were easy to find, but PG stocks were hard to find and were very expensive – well over $200 dollars! I found straight stocks for under $100. I finally got a good deal on a fully finished stock from VTI to cut down, but it was still over $200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHL Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 (Slight thread Hijack) Hi Rico, I'm in Bayside, Ca. and new to SASS and getting my gear together. I'll have to contact MRR and see about joining up with the "posse". I just purchased my first lever action in many years and it is a straight stock Winchester 1892 in .357. I will probably be in the minority but I prefer the straight stock's feel and appearance. My previous LAR was a Marlin 30-30 with the pistol grip stock and I could never get used to it. That being said, I'd agree with everyone that says a direct comparison with the two styles would serve you well. Have fun looking! john, alias Rosado Hombre Lobo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hey galloway Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 is your shotgun pistol grip I like them both the same Hey Galloway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The 73 is already a heavy rifle and the added pistol grip makes it slightly heavier so I opted for the straight stock and that is what I am used to shooting. I also find it easier to pick up off a prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 You need to handle both styles together at the same time. You could sell tickets to watch that and have enough money to buy one of each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Referring to a shotgun with a pistol grip is not the same as a lever rifle with a pistol grip. The issue is the lever is curved on the pistol grip and you need to get your fingers to curve with it. Not the same on a straight lever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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