Kirk James Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 As a new member of SASS, I would like to know if anyone has done a study of the firearms the Champions use. ex Colt SAA vs Ruger Vaquaro's vs others. Side by Side vs 97's, 73 vs 92 vs 66, and so on. As a former wrestling coach I use to tally what techniques win state championships vs theory. SASS is also a complicated and technical sport with a great deal of technique as well. Thanks for a great forum opportunity. I am starting my 10 year old with the Yavapai Rangers and am greatly impressed with their talents. I look forward to your comments.
Red River Ray SASS#33254 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 As a new member of SASS, I would like to know if anyone has done a study of the firearms the Champions use. ex Colt SAA vs Ruger Vaquaro's vs others. Side by Side vs 97's, 73 vs 92 vs 66, and so on. As a former wrestling coach I use to tally what techniques win state championships vs theory. SASS is also a complicated and technical sport with a great deal of technique as far as well. Thanks for a great forum opportunity. I am starting my 10 year old with the Yavapai Rangers and am greatly impressed with their talents. I look forward to your comments. http://jspublications.net/tips/BreakingTheShot/Chapter1.pdf Check this out pard. RRR
Kirk James Posted January 23, 2011 Author Posted January 23, 2011 http://jspublications.net/tips/BreakingTheShot/Chapter1.pdf Check this out pard. RRR
Kirk James Posted January 23, 2011 Author Posted January 23, 2011 Thanks Red River Ray-Very impressive. Will share with Cody James. Shows it doesn't hurt to start early.
Tom Bullweed Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 I am not a 'champion', but from what I have seen, I agree with Red River Ray. My other input is that you visit your local club and talk to the shooters. They will be quick to show you that there is no one answer. To shoot well, you do have shoot what is reliable and what you like. What is reliabel often has a higher upfront cost but a lesser overall cost. If you buy guns that you like, you are more likely to put in the time required to improve your skills. This sounds simple but has been a challenge for many shooters, including me.
Guest diablo slim shootist Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Reading thru that list it looks like everyone almost always shoots Ruger pistols,a 73 border rifle and a Winchester 97-But i think many top shooters are switching to a good single trigger SXS now a days I have this combination of guns myself but i'm no champion -but i know what works!
Kirk James Posted January 27, 2011 Author Posted January 27, 2011 I noticed that many of the top do use single trigger side by sides. Any ideas on an affordable, dependable side by side. I have looking at the Brownings but have not found one under a grand. It will have to be cut for my 10 year old. Right now he is shooting two 38 Vaqueros and a 92 browning 44. He started with the 22's, and he was hooked. He loves the big bores. I am attending a shooting clinic with him this weekend and am excited to start. I will be doing some selling to help pay for both of us. If you know anyone looking for a Smith 2000 Schofield or a 44-40/44 special late seventy SAA colt. They are both unfired in boxes. The extra cylinder was fitted by Colt and the Colt is 5 1/2 inch blue/case colored. That's for the input.
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 I noticed that many of the top do use single trigger side by sides. Any ideas on an affordable, dependable side by side. I have looking at the Brownings but have not found one under a grand. It will have to be cut for my 10 year old. Right now he is shooting two 38 Vaqueros and a 92 browning 44. He started with the 22's, and he was hooked. He loves the big bores. I am attending a shooting clinic with him this weekend and am excited to start. I will be doing some selling to help pay for both of us. If you know anyone looking for a Smith 2000 Schofield or a 44-40/44 special late seventy SAA colt. They are both unfired in boxes. The extra cylinder was fitted by Colt and the Colt is 5 1/2 inch blue/case colored. That's for the input. Old data about guns used by top shooters in some of those CAS books. Lots of top shooters have switched in last few years to an Ithaca/SBK or a Browning SxS, as they fell out of love with the 97 and it's long term lack of maintainability. A DOUBLE-TRIGGER Stoeger SxS would be a good starting gun, shortened up and slicked up. As about twenty threads in the last month have said. Single trigger Stoegers can be real problems getting to a point of reliable firing. List your guns for sale in the classifieds section, and for sure the Colt 3rd generation SAA will sell quickly and for a good price. Good luck, GJ
Kirk James Posted January 27, 2011 Author Posted January 27, 2011 Old data about guns used by top shooters in some of those CAS books. Lots of top shooters have switched in last few years to an Ithaca/SBK or a Browning SxS, as they fell out of love with the 97 and it's long term lack of maintainability. A DOUBLE-TRIGGER Stoeger SxS would be a good starting gun, shortened up and slicked up. As about twenty threads in the last month have said. Single trigger Stoegers can be real problems getting to a point of reliable firing. List your guns for sale in the classifieds section, and for sure the Colt 3rd generation SAA will sell quickly and for a good price. Good luck, GJ
Kirk James Posted January 27, 2011 Author Posted January 27, 2011 Thanks GJ, I'll try and make someone a good deal but need to find out what they are worth. I've had the colt pistol in my safe for over 10 years and lost track of their values. The Smith Schofield I purchased as soon as they came out. I looked at gun broker and guns america and could not find one similar to the colt other than the sheriff's model. While the box is tattered, the paperwork is all there and it has great case colors. If you have any ideas let me know? I will probably sell only one of them since it is had to part with either. If anyone can help give a value, let me know. I will get them in the classifieds.
Cowboy Junky Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 I can tell ya' this from attending matches and seeing what the top shooters are shooting and 90% of them shoot the same stuff (for the most part). Rugers, 73's, Marlins, 97's, BSS, SKB's and even Baikal or Stoeger's in some cases. You have folks like Lassiter and Fire ball that are unique but most of the "top shooter's" shoot very similar guns.....you will more than likely migrate to the same guns if you want to milk your stage times like a 4 year old dairy cow. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying you have to or that there are great shooters that don’t…..it just seems to be the path of least resistant. The Colts are a great choice and you would probably see more but the $$$$ keeps them outta' many shooters hands.
Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 Thanks GJ, I'll try and make someone a good deal but need to find out what they are worth. I've had the colt pistol in my safe for over 10 years and lost track of their values. The Smith Schofield I purchased as soon as they came out. I looked at gun broker and guns america and could not find one similar to the colt other than the sheriff's model. While the box is tattered, the paperwork is all there and it has great case colors. If you have any ideas let me know? I will probably sell only one of them since it is had to part with either. If anyone can help give a value, let me know. I will get them in the classifieds. It's probably more of buyer's market right now for higher dollar guns. I've seen what would have been screaming good deals in past years languish on the Classifieds and auction sites in the last year or two. The Blue Book values are, in my experience, all over the map, some are high, some are low, some are right on. If I'm trying to determine value, I'll try to bookmark some similar guns on the auction sites and see what they actually sell for. Ideally, I'll track sales of several similar guns since any one auction sale could be out of line with actual values. With the exception of the 22LR/22 Mag combos, one doesn't see many dual cylinder revolvers. I have a Blackhawk in .45 Colt/ACP and I almost never shoot the ACP loads. I bought the gun because the price was right and it had an Oglesby action job and have never felt drawn to dual cylinder revolvers but others may like them. I certainly wouldn't expect the extra cylinder to raise the value much but that is just my guess. A seventies vintage 3rd generation Colt is also one of the most common and least desireable to many people. Colt had some inconsistent quality back then. Having said that I've been using a pair of seventies vintage third generation guns for my main match guns for years, but I bought them ftf for very reasonable prices. If you like that Colt, you may want to just start shooting it. For value on your Schofield, a true limited production gun, I'd browse the S&W Forum or PM Sixgun Shorty.
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted January 27, 2011 Posted January 27, 2011 I beleive last year's Winter Range Champ, Deuce Stevens, uses Ruger Vaqueros in .38 Special... (didn't see him listed in RRR's link of top shooters) GG ~
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