Van Morgan Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 I got the three seasons of Deadwood for Christmas and the wife and I are finally able to watch it not having HBO for the last 10 years or so. Almost done with the second season already and we are enjoying it quite a bit. Will be sad though when it is through knowing there is no more.
Grizzly Dave Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Never seen it myself, haven't had HBO in ages.
Cpt Dan Blodgett, SASS #75655 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 The series was interesting the foul language gratuitous to the point of being distracting and causing many not to watch. I would have liked to see the series come back for another season or two. Prolly would have needed to end once the Railroads got there and the town became civilized. I will keep an eye out for a cheap set of the DVDs at the local pre-owned store.
Fireball #7709 Life Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 I bought the complete set awhile ago, Shotgun Mary and I have watched it at least three times! We also were sorry when it ended.
Marshal Max Henry Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 I never found myself falling pray to the soap opera but I loved Deadwood. I have all 3 seasons and I cant believe the Sapranos where on 10 stinkin years an we only got 3 outa Deadwood. The Chaaracters are very rich and real. When I grow up I want to be just like Seth Bullock lol. There were some great points about the human condition to be made.
Marshall John Joseph Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Absolutely love Deadwood. You must watch it at least 3 times to really "get" the dialog under the cussing. But to appreciate Deadwood, get this book: "Deadwood: Stories of the Black Hills" by its producer/creator David Milch, originally $30, available for $4.95 here. It is a hardcover and profusely illustrated. http://www.hamiltonbook.com/hamiltonbook.storefront/4d3c3a7f00184a1d271ed8b1903b0655/Export/products/7202172 No real Deadwood fan would be without it MJJ
Van Morgan Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 Yeah all the profanity set me back more than a bit at first and took awhile to ignore. I might just order that book. My only problem is storage space as I am still unpacking after trying to sell my house and failed.
Wolfgang, SASS #53480 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 I got the three seasons of Deadwood for Christmas and the wife and I are finally able to watch it not having HBO for the last 10 years or so. Almost done with the second season already and we are enjoying it quite a bit. Will be sad though when it is through knowing there is no more. The story gets wierder and wierder in the third season . . only saw one episode of the second season on TV when visiting folks who had it available. Happy I bough the DVD set. It is excellent. First season most historical. Second season good. Watched the third one only once. The first and second quite a few times when I've run out of anything new to watch. Enjoy
Stormy Reinz, SASS #41707 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 The series was interesting the foul language gratuitous to the point of being distracting and causing many not to watch. Very well put, hits the nail on the head for me! I have always tolerated just about any movie or show dispite the language, sex or violence - until Deadwood came along. What a disappointment. I really tried to hang in there a sift through the cuss fest.. I enjoyed it other than that and gave up after the first season. Now that my kids are grown and i am more mellow, maybe I could handle it, don't know.
Ricochet Roy, SASS #71853 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 I watched the series a couple of times and was quite disppointed that it ended. Many, many years ago Brad Dourif (Doc Cockran) and his family lived next door to us. His youngest daughter Fiona was my daughter's best friend, ages back then 4 to 7 years old. Fiona played a part as a hooker in Deadwood as show on page 94 in the book, 1st hooker on the left on page 94. Roy
Dusty Balz, SASS#46599 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 I really enjoyed that %$*&ing show
Tuco Taveras SASS#79313 Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Howdy: last summer in Deadwood I had a chance to hang out in the bars dressed as Al Swearegen ......People thought I was a bouncer and I got plenty of attention....Children would come up to me and ask if i was Jack Mccall at the trial set at the no.10 saloon....My reply was I was reinacting the part of a saloon keeper..and smiled at the grandparents...left it at that,,,inside my pocket watch I placed a picture of Ian Mcshane so people would know who I was posing as.....Great time..got some free drinks too......Tuco.
Fairshake Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I was a cop on the street for many years and the four letter words flow like water. My wife and I can't even go into the local Wall World without hearing the younger kids using every profane word in the book to show how tough they are. Now from what I was able to come up with is that in that town and in that time period the show was dead on when it came to the language used. I worked in Narcotics Division for a number of years and found myself apologizing more than once for a slip around mixed company. Not making any excuses but you do tend to talk the same as those around you. Deadwood was a rough town and the people there were very mixed in the way they spoke. It is based on fact and not fiction and I was very sorry to see it go off the air.
Tye Riverman, SASS #41433 Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I was a cop on the street for many years and the four letter words flow like water. My wife and I can't even go into the local Wall World without hearing the younger kids using every profane word in the book to show how tough they are. Now from what I was able to come up with is that in that town and in that time period the show was dead on when it came to the language used. I worked in Narcotics Division for a number of years and found myself apologizing more than once for a slip around mixed company. Not making any excuses but you do tend to talk the same as those around you. Deadwood was a rough town and the people there were very mixed in the way they spoke. It is based on fact and not fiction and I was very sorry to see it go off the air. Howdy Fairshake, Hope you are doing well. I agree with you completely. The first time I saw the show I felt it was over the top, but when you compare it to the street talk we hear it is about on par. It certainly puts it into perspective. As much as things change, they remain the same. Tye
Fargo Bill, SASS #4942 Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I got the three seasons of Deadwood for Christmas and the wife and I are finally able to watch it not having HBO for the last 10 years or so. Almost done with the second season already and we are enjoying it quite a bit. Will be sad though when it is through knowing there is no more. Where can I purchase the $%&*@ series? I want them all. I loved the language, it was in English. Help me if you can.
Van Morgan Posted January 25, 2011 Author Posted January 25, 2011 I found mine at Best Buy at 50% off. Walmart also has it, but often doesn't have all three. We finished season two and am reluctant to start season three knowing there is no more but will soon. Although everyone likes Seth Bullock I identidy more with the characters more my own age Charlie Utter, Doc Cochran and Whitney Ellsworth. I think I like Jim Beaver in Supernatural better though. Brad Dourif is good in everything he plays.
ChuteTheMall Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Although much of the language is extremely obscene, plenty of polite Victorian conversations ensue with flowery vocabulary and feigned politeness as well; thus, it's well-written by the wordsmiths who put pen to paper, so to speak. Especially everything espoused by E. B. Farnum "Al Swearingen's a cue and Farnum merely is a billiard ball." or "Allow me a moment's silence Mr Hearst, sir, I'm having a digestive crisis and must focus on repressing it's expression."
Rube Burrows Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 When it first aired I tried to watch it and was turned off by the language. Then after some research on the rough towns like that and seeing that they did in fact talk foul to some extent I figured I would give it another shot. I enjoyed it so much that I ran through it pretty fast and was left wanting more. Now its been a few years and obvious that its not coming back, despite hearing talked of more seasons or a movie even. Oh well. It was a good series if you could deal with the language.
August West, SASS #45079 Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I noticed the other day that the series is available in Blu-Ray. I'm wondering how much more detail that might reveal. The sets and the cloths really put you in the action. I'll bet the Blu-Ray would make the experience even better.
Chili Ron Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 I stumbled across the first season of deadwood at a garage sale. The language was a bit much but not any worse than what I heard in the U.S Army. If swearing isnt part of your daily existance, consider yourself lucky. The best price I have found on new deadwood disks is buying all three seasons in one box from Best Buy. Its right at $100. When I wanted to buy season 2 and 3 they were about $90 each. I kept looking and bought them on sale at walmart and bestbuy. A video store went out of business and I bought all three used and then my friend BOB decided that he really didnt want the set and I sold it on the classyfieds real quick. Watch for videostores going outta business, they can be a cheap source for lots of hbo shows. I nearly bought all the sopranos but the owner said they had been rented to death and I probably would not be happy. I have watched the last few episodes a few times and it could be that Deadwood just becomes more and more civilized and less interesting. Best CR
DanceswithPitBulls Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Viewers are often taken aback by the excessive absences used in the series episodes. As one of several dozen mechanics employed at an automotive dealership I'd like to offer some insight into surviving in a highly charged testosterone environment ... not unlike Deadwood. It's not important if your competition fears his defeat. It's more important he understands the pain and damage we'll suffer in his victory. Breaking gentile societies rules of speaking loudingly and obscenely shows you are a force with which to be reckon. Unfortunately, a fifty hour week of tension can bleed over. I'll always regret slipping up and telling my Mom her Thanksgiving ham was f...ing great. Anyway, I beg you to look past the obscenities, and enjoy the series. Cancelling out the curse words I think you'll find the manner and language used almost Shakeshearian.
Guest Paniolo Cowboy SASS #75875 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 I could never get into it. Seem like too much "Revisionist Western" Hollywood! Besides, I hated the %$^#&@ fact that I had to &^%$*#$ watched it like a &^%$$@^* porn film with &^$%#&*% around but me because of the @^#%$^ sh&&$^$% language that lent nothing to the ^&&$^&%$#* show. Thank God westerns weren't like that when I was younger, my old man would have never let any of us watch Westerns if they were that way back when. And if that were the case, I don't know if I would have been brought up with an interest in the Old West at all if it weren't for watching Westerns on TV and in the movies. It's no wonder this new generation doesn't know anything about the Old West. Heck, there's nothing for them to watch! ALL of the old Classic Western TV shows including Maverick and Bananza were all so much more entertaining then the piece of %$%#$@ garbage they call Deadwood. It didn't surprise me that it only ran 3 years. Heck, that would have been considered a flop by 1950 and 1960 standards. Take Gunsmoke for example, it started on radio in 1952 and then ran on TV from 1955 to 1975. Now that's &^%^$%#%^^%^%#%$^&*()%$%^ great!
Deadwood Miner, SASS # 45575 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 I could never get into it. Seem like too much "Revisionist Western" Hollywood! Besides, I hated the %$^#&@ fact that I had to &^%$*#$ watched it like a &^%$$@^* porn film with &^$%#&*% around but me because of the @^#%$^ sh&&$^$% language that lent nothing to the ^&&$^&%$#* show. Thank God westerns weren't like that when I was younger, my old man would have never let any of us watch Westerns if they were that way back when. And if that were the case, I don't know if I would have been brought up with an interest in the Old West at all if it weren't for watching Westerns on TV and in the movies. It's no wonder this new generation doesn't know anything about the Old West. Heck, there's nothing for them to watch! ALL of the old Classic Western TV shows including Maverick and Bananza were all so much more entertaining then the piece of %$%#$@ garbage they call Deadwood. It didn't surprise me that it only ran 3 years. Heck, that would have been considered a flop by 1950 and 1960 standards. Take Gunsmoke for example, it started on radio in 1952 and then ran on TV from 1955 to 1975. Now that's &^%^$%#%^^%^%#%$^&*()%$%^ great!
Joe LaFives #5481 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 I was a cop on the street for many years and the four letter words flow like water. My wife and I can't even go into the local Wall World without hearing the younger kids using every profane word in the book to show how tough they are. Now from what I was able to come up with is that in that town and in that time period the show was dead on when it came to the language used. I worked in Narcotics Division for a number of years and found myself apologizing more than once for a slip around mixed company. Not making any excuses but you do tend to talk the same as those around you. Deadwood was a rough town and the people there were very mixed in the way they spoke. It is based on fact and not fiction and I was very sorry to see it go off the air. Unfortuately this is far from true. David Milch admits that the foul language used was not historical. He wanted to give it the air of a rough and tumble town and chose this plot device to do so. Our language has steadily degraded over the years. For example: I hear more foul language around High School kids in the street then I did in the Army 30 years ago. Milch chose to use the same foul language one might here today in a "tough" neighborhood in NY. Additionally some terms hadn't even been "invented" yet it wasn't "...sucker" the term back then was "...smoker". He used the excuse that it was a mining town and so the miners would use foul language. Yet none of the principle characters were miners and the really profane star - Swearengen was a saloon owner. The language used other that the cussing was pretty good though and its sad that he feel into that trap. . It had solid plots , good character development, great sets, great costumes and great scripts EXCEPT for the foul language.
Guest Paniolo Cowboy SASS #75875 Posted January 26, 2011 Posted January 26, 2011 Unfortuately this is far from true. David Milch admits that the foul language used was not historical. He wanted to give it the air of a rough and tumble town and chose this plot device to do so. Our language has steadily degraded over the years. For example: I hear more foul language around High School kids in the street then I did in the Army 30 years ago. Milch chose to use the same foul language one might here today in a "tough" neighborhood in NY. Additionally some terms hadn't even been "invented" yet it wasn't "...sucker" the term back then was "...smoker". He used the excuse that it was a mining town and so the miners would use foul language. Yet none of the principle characters were miners and the really profane star - Swearengen was a saloon owner. The language used other that the cussing was pretty good though and its sad that he feel into that trap. . It had solid plots , good character development, great sets, great costumes and great scripts EXCEPT for the foul language. +1 It was all about "Shock Value" to his audience.
Van Morgan Posted January 28, 2011 Author Posted January 28, 2011 Like or not, this is no longer the 50's and '60s where the censor board had to be feared. While I could have done without as much of the foul language and I get Milch's explanation I am enjoying it anyway. No the lanuguage was not historical, it is comparatively historical is Milch's point. I disagree that it was needed. I think it could have been toned down 90% and have had the same affect.
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