Colonel Dan, SASS #24025 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 I’m in the process of preparing an upcoming speech and would like some input from our SASS family. I’d like your personal definition of a veteran. I don’t want anything out of a dictionary; I want your personal definition based on your past experiences, observations, acquaintances, relationships, feelings etc. Example: When you think of a veteran, what image comes to mind and how would you describe and define them? What, if anything sets them apart—something or nothing at all? How would you describe them as a group or as individuals to friends or your children? I’d like to include thoughts from veterans—active and former; combat and non-combat, family members, friends and those who haven’t worn the uniform. Input selected will be quoted in my speech using your SASS alias only. Short and concise statements are preferred but please feel free to say whatever come from your heart. If you prefer to send me your thoughts privately, please email them to: coloneldan@bellsouth.net I very much appreciate, will sincerely value and look forward to your assistance and contributions.
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 A veteran is any man or woman who took the solemn oath to defend the Constitution of the United States and stood ready at the sharp end of the spear to back that oath against all enemies of the United States with everything they had up to and including their very lives.
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 A veteran is one who has voluntarily run toward the sound of gunfire.
Cypress Sun Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Veterans were once ordinary people changed forever by the call of their country. Ordinary people molded into fighting men, performing as one. Ordinary folks with the same love of life as the rest of us, but willing to obey orders that may cost their life and of those around them. Ordinary people performing duties that would seem insane and suicidal to most, but obeying them just the same. Ordinary people defending our freedom, country and their fellow soldier. Ordinary people who are never ordinary again. God bless and hold safe the veterans of our country.......past, present and future. Cypress Sun
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 At the onset, someone who probably thought Military Service looked very Patriotic and yet, somewhat glamorious. Especially when he/she joined up with a high school friend and get to go to boot camp together. A Veteran is someone who is a quick thinker and realized about the 2nd or 3rd day that boot camp wasn't at all what they thought it was gona be. A Veteran is someone who loves his/her Mother.....more than ever when that 3rd day of boot camp comes around. Then the Veteran starts to show his/her metal. They start to realize that all their efforts are what keeps Moma safe at night. That fox hole or those 20 ft. waves splashing over the bow of the ship become a small annoyance when you start to look at those family pictures tucked away securely in your pocket that you carry every day. You start to realize that some of the comforts of freedom for those back home always come with a price and you realize you are the one having to 'shuck out the blood, sweat and tears' to help pay that price. The Veteran is probably the first one to say 'Oh Crap' to rumors of war yet he/she would also be the first one ready to fight in that war. That Veteran may wear a bullet proof vest but his/her heart is not 'tear' proof. They may seem cold and calus during the heat of battle yet will also be broken hearted at the sight of little children suffering. Its kinda hard to actually convey what encompasses a Veteran. Some of them dispise being told to keep their hair neatly groomed yet they'll give their very life for you. They dispise being told when to go to bed yet they will be the first up in the morning to stand watch. Some can't swim yet they join the Navy. Some hate to fly yet they join the Air Force. Some hate rain, heat and cold yet they join the Army and Marines. Some join the Coast Guard and find out they have to be just as vigilant as anyone else. Well, I best stop. ..........Widder
Captain Bill Burt Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 I'm a veteran myself, USN Submarine Service, SSBN Nathan Hale and SSBN Von Steuben, both decom now. The image I have in my mind when I hear Veteran is what most people would call a Combat Veteran, which I'm not. Yeah I served and I'm damn proud of it, but what I did pales in comparison to what combat vets do. As was previously stated, someone who hears gunfire and runs toward it is what I think of when I hear Veteran.
Neches 50502 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 I am a vet and my best friends daughter wrote this this past veterans day from her experience with her dad that day. By the way she is only 17 years old. So hopefully everyone is aware that today is in fact, Veterans Day. In my opinion, this is one of, if not the most overlooked American holiday. Anyway, I would just like to take the time to thank anyone who has previously or is currently serving our country. I guess you could say I come from a patriotic family. I've had multiple family members enlist in the military, and I've been taught for as long as I can remember that "freedom isn't free". My dad has raised me with the knowledge that people have fought, bled, and died, so that I may choose to use my freedom in anyway I please. You know, every Friday night during football season in the fall, before the game starts, I hear one of my fellow classmates pray over the entire stadium through the speakers. Every Wednesday, I wake up a little bit earlier so that I can go to school and praise my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. This is something that is constantly taken for granted. Not everyone has this freedom, in fact, MANY courties aren't able to do what we can. What's the difference? We've had people that have sacrificed their lives so that we can openly proclaim the Gospel. Today, I sat in an auditorium full of students, veterans, and community members. I wathced as each veteran stood when their name was called, followed by an applause from the crowd. It was wonderful, and very moving as I watched people who had served, as far back as World War II, stand up to be applauded. I was honored to even be in the same room with them.These people fought, and some even died, for you. Yes, when they sacrificed their lives, they didn't have you're name written on a peice of paper, stuffed inside their uniform, but that's the beauty of it! They died for people they didn't even know! And honestly for people, that if we're honest with each other, don't really care. What a great representation of love! After the assembly, my father, some friends, and I went to Applebee's for lunch. I don't think ever seen so many veterans in a restraunt in my life. There was a connection between each one of them, young and old, different branches of the miltary, they all had stories, experiences, that brought them together. They all had respect for each other, holding open doors, giving up seats, out of respect, and for the younger ones, out of admiration. We sat, ate and talked for what seemed like half of the afternoon. Then came my favorite part of the day, I recieved the opportunity to listen my dad and his oldest friend, from the Army, just sit and swap stories. Trust me, they didn't run out of stories. In fact, if my dad didn't have to get back to work, and people weren't waiting on a table, they could've sat there until closing time. I watched their eyes light up as old memories came to mind, and as the excitement in their voices welled up. Then I realized, that's something that veteran's have that I'll never grasp. Brotherhood. My dad made a life long friend through the Army. And though it was years ago, their memories seem like they were just yesterday. My dad and his best friend have gotten to watch each other go through bad times and good times. They've seen each other grow. As friends, as people, in girth , and most importantly, as followers of Christ. Unlike most life-long friends, veterans know, not by words, but by action, that their friends are willing to stand by them, and not just on the metaphorical "battle field of life." They know that their friend has their back, when they're in trouble, the other one is there to help. And when push comes to shove, that person is gonna be the one to call. This allows me to be at peace in knowing that our military isn't just a bunch of random people, trying to protect us alone. Their people with unbreakable bonds, working together to keep us safe. They're friends, brothers, and I think the Army said it best with "An Army Of One". So this is for you, the ones who served. Past, present, and future. I can neve express my gratitude enough. You're my heros. If know someone who has served, or is serving in the military, hug their neck and tell them thank you. And not just on Veterans Day. Also, if you're a veteran or are currently serving, or will in the future, feel free to tag yourself
Mudflat Mike, SASS #20904 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Someone who took an oath to defend those who can't defend themselves.
Mad Monte McCrae SASS #61622 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 This is a hard one for me. Especially since I am preparing to return to the civilian world myself this year, after 21 years of wearing the uniform. Yes at the age of 17 I took the oath "To support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic". That was in 1990 it was 2007 before I actually looked upon "The Declaration of Independence", "The Constitution" and "The Bill of Rights" in the National Archives, I cried. The flag flies in front of my house day and night it is illumined properly. Have I seen death YES in ways that make my heart sink. Have I seen the worst that the world has to offer YES. Have I seen the destruction of Man and Nature YES. Have I had bullets whizz past my head YES. Have I helped those throughout the world regardless YES. Am I a veteran in the since of it YES. Do I still look at previous generations of Vets with upmost sincerity YES. Do I strive to instill the my values of what this country truly means to my family YES. Do I hope my children will serve YES but I hope they never have to see what I have seen. Does being a Vet mean doing 20 plus years NO, fighting a War/Conflict in a foreign land NO. It is a man/woman that take the oath and fullfills it to the upmost of there abilities 24/7 365 both in and out of uniform regardless of the impact to them.
Fillmore Coffins, SASS #7884 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Anyone who took the oath and was honorably discharged. Fillmore 1st Inf. Div. "The Big Red One"
DocDisaster # 45431 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 A veteran is one who has taken a solemn oath and has signed a blank check, the cost being up to and including their life. Semper Fortis HOO-YAH Doc
Adirondack Jack, SASS #53440 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 I’m in the process of preparing an upcoming speech and would like some input from our SASS family. I’d like your personal definition of a veteran. I don’t want anything out of a dictionary; I want your personal definition based on your past experiences, observations, acquaintances, relationships, feelings etc. Example: When you think of a veteran, what image comes to mind and how would you describe and define them? What, if anything sets them apart—something or nothing at all? How would you describe them as a group or as individuals to friends or your children? I’d like to include thoughts from veterans—active and former; combat and non-combat, family members, friends and those who haven’t worn the uniform. Input selected will be quoted in my speech using your SASS alias only. Short and concise statements are preferred but please feel free to say whatever come from your heart. If you prefer to send me your thoughts privately, please email them to: coloneldan@bellsouth.net I very much appreciate, will sincerely value and look forward to your assistance and contributions. When I stood alongside my father-in-law and another vet in his 80s, and the three of us saluted the colors as they passed at last year's Memorial Day parade, a young woman reporter for the local paper approached, said she had taken a picture, and asked for "thoughts from Vets." Though I served, I never saw combat, and so on. So all I said was "ask these guys". They are the kinds of folks who come to mind when we say "Veterens". They survived WWII. For others it might have been Korea or Vietnam, but they are a breed apart from the peacetime vet who volunteered to do a job in times less terrible..... Yes, a veteren has answered his country's call to duty. Sometimes the result of the call means bloody nightmares. Sometimes it is a little more subtle. But in every case, they took the oath, often as boys, and stood ready. They found out a little about life, and a lot about themselves in the process. They know the honor of some colonel or captain looking them in the eye and thanking them for their service in a way a civilian never could understand. I'm having trouble capturing this feeling, but a recent U-Tube video comes to mind. The 3.5 minute video, the recording from a heads up display of an F16 fighter pilot's helmet, recorded the scene and the conversation between a fighter pilot, his flight leader, and ATC as he dead stick landed the bird when power went out. His landing was flawless, after much obvious stress (you can hear him purposefully inhale at times), and when it was over and the plane stopped on the tarmac, all he said was "thanks for all yer help, guys"
Muddy Creek Sam, SASS# 78004 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 A veteran is one who has taken a solemn oath and has signed a blank check, the cost being up to and including their life. Semper Fortis HOO-YAH Doc In My opinion Doc nailed it. Sam
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 A veteran as described above deserves my fullest appreciation, honor and respect. Though they may not see themselves as I see them, they are hero's through my eye's. GG ~ USA flag
Texas Jim Henry, SASS #20616 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Howdy, Colonel Dan - I'm a veteran, but when I think "veteran," I think of my dad. He was a thirty-year career USAF fighter pilot. Signing up as an aviation cadet at Kelly Field in San Antonio in 1935, and retiring from Tinker AFB in Oklahoma City in 1965. I think he would tell you that the defining time in his career was WWII. Originally sent to England, he wrangled a TDY assignment with the 325th Fighter Group, then operating out of North Africa. That became a permanent assignment and he eventually became CO of the 325th. They transitioned from P-40's, to P-47's, to P-51's, moving operations from North Africa to Italy. He came home a 32 year old full colonel, with numerous medals and two "kill's" to his credit (an ME-109 and a Focke-Wulf 190). In later years, people would come up to thank him for his service and he would always reply, "We were just doing our job." He was a genuine, card-carrying member of America's Greatest Generation, yet his humbleness and modesty didn't allow him to feel he was anything special. He died in 2004, one day shy of his 90th birthday. I still miss him every day. Regards, TJH
Trailrider #896 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Howdy, Pard, IMHO a veteran is, as has been posted by others, someone who joins the armed forces of his/her country. In the case of Americans it is someone who voluntarily or involuntarily becomes a member of the regular, reserve or National Guard of his/her state, and in doing so swears to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and to obey the lawful orders of those appointed over him/her. While one can debate whether someone who dedicates a career in this service or is simply a "short-timer", each and all have spent a portion of their life in this service. Yes, those who have served in combat or have placed their lives on the line in some dangerous task certainly deserve our utmost admiration and thanks! Those who have sacrificed body, mind or their lives deserve our utmost thanks, support and honor. But not everyone who has served has had the opportunity to serve in these capacities. This should not diminish our respect for their service, if they did the duties to which they were assigned to the best of their abilities, even if that means just shuffling paper. Godspeed to those still in harm's way in the defense of Freedom everywhere! God Bless the United States of America! Your humble servant,
B. T. Blade, SASS #35685Life Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Howdy Colonel Dan, I served in the U.S. Army. My brother in law was U.S. Navy. I did a tour in Vietnam, while he served aboard ship in non-combat operations, mainly stateside. We both love our country and took an oath. We both went where our country sent us and did our jobs. We both stand and salute whenever our flag passes by. We've both been known to get a bit teary eyed when the Star Spangled Banner or America the Beautiful is played. We're both in our 60's now, but would serve again in a heartbeat if there was a place for us. We're both United States Veterans.
Grumpy Old Man Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Anyone who has served in any of the armed forces and honorably discharged. My dad and 3 uncles served during WWII, one uncle in the mid 50's, I served in Vietnam, I have a cousin who is currently seving, and a neice who recently retired from the Navy. We served proudly.
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 A veteran is one who stood at arms in the cold rain so a mother could teach her child not to stand out in the rain. True story: I had just come off duty manning a machine gun in the cold rain. I came into the tent where Chief Warrant Officer Wooden was at his duties. Cold and wet I said, "Chief, my mother taught me not to be standing out in the rain." Mr. Wooden replied, "Yes, you had a wise mother. But remember, there was a soldier standing out in the rain so that she could." ... I had no reply. ... Mr. Wooden then directed me to get myself a cup of hot coffee.
WymoreWrangler SASS 46187L Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 A veteran is someone who signed a blank check called an enlistment contract and faithful fulfilled it honorably...
Fairshake Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 A veteran is any man or woman who raised their hand and swore an oath to protect this country. Not all soliders are combat veterans as it takes many troops to put that one combat man in the field. I am 100% sure that all the supply,ordnance,medics,nurses,radio and countless others would step up in a split second given the chance. You receive your MOS and do your job to the best of your ability. 4TH ID 65-67
DanceswithPitBulls Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Bottomline ... anyone who proudly and honorably wore the uniform of his country.
Nooga Kid, SASS #28513 Regulator Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 A veteran is a Patriot! 'Nooga USMC 1962-1966
John Larn, SASS # 9072 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 As so many have said; someone who was drafted or enlisted and served honorably.
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 The crowd was small as they mostly are now Parades just aren't in fashion much A boy and his dad sat there on the curb Watching the school bands and such Then down the broad main street came a ruffle of drums As some National Guard boys marched by They stopped at the stand where the mayors group sat And the crowd watched with curious eyes Then the band played The Star Spangled banner real fine As the flag was raised up the town pole But the boy's eyes were on an old man standing near Who stood straight as a ramrod of old He saluted precisely and his eyes glittered bright His voice sang amazingly loud The boy looked at his father who whispered to him "That's a Veteran, and he's rightly proud" "We can't know for sure what he's seeing right now Or the thoughts playing out in his head" "I imagine he remembers the good friends he made And he grieves for the ones who are dead" The shy boy then gave his dad quite a surprise For normally, from strangers he hid. But he went and shook the vet's hand timidly And said, "Thank you, for all that you did"
Hoot Hamilton Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 ......always salute the RED WHITE and BLUE at every Cowboy Action Shoot. Never falter, never hesitate, proud to be an American...... hOOt USAF 1957-1962
Boondock Saint, #70146 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Any time that I hear or read the word veteran, I think of my father. He served in the US Navy, and he was a combat veteran, having served in WWII. I think of how he must have felt, at 19 years old, when the carrier that he was serving on, the USS Wasp CV-7, was torpedoed by the Japanese submarine I-19. The adrenaline, the fear, the shock, I really can't imagine. I know that it haunted him. He never really spoke about any of his time at war. What little I know of his service, I learned from my Uncle. Boondock
Tom Bullweed Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 My father served in the US army from 1948 to 1973, completing tours of duty in Korea (2) and Vietnam (2). I also have two uncles who served for 20+ years from the Pacific Theater through Vietnam. I have other family members who have time in the armed forces in other branches and other histories of service. My idea of a veteran is a man or woman who served in a field of risk to personal danger or directly supported their fellow servicemen who were in such a field. This tightens the general idea of a veteran in light of giving justified credence to the sacrifice provided by that serviceperson. It does not mean that an active battle must have taken place. Korea is a risky area today; Germany is not. It also means that a veteran was one at risk or only one-degree from the person at risk. The person one level away from the immediate risk greatly affects success of the person at risk and is often the next level to be called to battle if things go badly in the battle (i.e. Phillipines of 1942). I know that this may upset some of our servicemen, but I want to recognize those who had direct attendance in battle or one level away from battle as having served with great risk. Does a clerk who stayed in the US during WWII deserve them same accolades as someone who flew bomber missions over Europe or landed at Utah Beach or anyone who served on a ship in a battle zone (since the entire ship was at risk)?
Wiley Desperado, SASS # 49558 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 About forty -five years ago after returning from Vietnam I was working in a sheet metal shop in San Antonio. There was a fella working there named Pancho. He was a short over weight American of Mexican decent, at the time he was in his forties. A very quiet guy. One rainy day we got to talking as we worked on a project together. The conversation turned toward military service and I asked him if he had been in the military? He softly said he had served in the Army during WWII. I kind of pushed the conversation a little and asked him if he had seen any action? He looked at me over the top of his glasses and softly said he had been an infantryman in Europe. I went on and asked him what was it like to be an infantryman in WWII? He stop what he was doing and looked straight at me and said, well, I saw fighting so fierce that the bark on all the trees in the forest was shot off up to about six feet. He then unbuttoned his shirt and showed me a wide scar that ran from one shoulder diagonally across his body down to his waist. He said that was from a German bayonet. I asked him what happen to the German soldier? Pancho looked at me again over the top of his glasses, picked up his cutting shears and said "I'm here aren't I" and went back to work. When I think of a veteran I always think of Pancho...and I never judge a book by it's cover. wiley
Chief Rick Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Does a clerk who stayed in the US during WWII deserve them same accolades as someone who flew bomber missions over Europe or landed at Utah Beach or anyone who served on a ship in a battle zone (since the entire ship was at risk)? Yes - as long as they served honorably and to the best of their ability. Without those clerks, what are the odds of those serving on the front lines had the fuel and spare parts for their planes? How did the Soldier/Sailor/Marine landing at Utah Beach, or the ships off shore, get resupplied? A Veteran is a person who served proudly, doing their job to the best of their ability, without being condescending or envious of others who did the same - regardless of the job or where stationed.
Klondike SASS Life #29713 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Col. I read all this and there are many fine answers and all are correct, but the most correct was made by Fillmore Coffins. Anyone who took the oath and was honorably discharged. You can't argue with that! Thank you Fillmore. Drill Sgt. E5 D13 North Fort Polk Tiger Land 66-68 4th Army
BIG TIM Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 When I think of veteran, I think first of my Dad who served in WWII. He was in the pacific theater and spent a good part of his time in and around the Philipine Islands. The fact that he left a part of himself (lost his right leg) there. I think of my Uncle who was one of the group that went in and leberated Auschweitz. How he was unable to talk about this without getting choked up. How these two men fought for those that could not fight for themselves. Having these two men teach me about being patriotic. Stand when the national anthem is played, stand when the flag passes by. Stand at attention when you say the pledge.I then think of my brother that did five tours in Vietnam. The 4 purple hearts that he was awarded. Again a man that went because he was told. Never questioning, doing for those that could not do for themselves. Now I think of my son how is carrying the mantel in the Marine Corps. The fighting he is doing, so as he puts it "so you can sleep safe at night Mama". Men that are willing to run toward the gun fire so we can know with out a doubt that we are safe here. Men that say not on my watch!!!
Cpt Dan Blodgett, SASS #75655 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 The crowd was small as they mostly are now Parades just aren't in fashion much A boy and his dad sat there on the curb Watching the school bands and such Then down the broad main street came a ruffle of drums As some National Guard boys marched by They stopped at the stand where the mayors group sat And the crowd watched with curious eyes Then the band played The Star Spangled banner real fine As the flag was raised up the town pole But the boy's eyes were on an old man standing near Who stood straight as a ramrod of old He saluted precisely and his eyes glittered bright His voice sang amazingly loud The boy looked at his father who whispered to him "That's a Veteran, and he's rightly proud" "We can't know for sure what he's seeing right now Or the thoughts playing out in his head" "I imagine he remembers the good friends he made And he grieves for the ones who are dead" The shy boy then gave his dad quite a surprise For normally, from strangers he hid. But he went and shook the vet's hand timidly And said, "Thank you, for all that you did" damn Bob that hurts
Cpt Dan Blodgett, SASS #75655 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Colonel Dan It is really hard to say. The simple answer is anyone who served honorably. Some of us got pretty much a free ride or so it may have seemed at the time. I can't help thinking of those like my Father who paid a heavy price. You may find this interesting: http://www.301bg.com/Varner_Lee_A.cfm. Dad was in the 301st Bomb Group the second group to go to England in 1942. On the trip over they essentially navigated for P38s. Dad was really proud that they got all their fighters to England without losing one. He flew several missions out of England against targets in France. When we invaded North Africa the 301st and the 97th went down there and formed the 12th Air Force. They bombed targets in North Africa, the Med, Sicily, Sardinia and Italy. In August of 43 dad came home with 52 missions as a Gunner. His entire squadron the 419th had not lost a Crew. One plane had been shot up but the Crew recovered when they were in England and then the Squadron went a year without losing a plane. Back in the States Dad and the rest of his squadron were instructors at Euphrata Washington. In early 44 Dad was one of 3 Engineers still alive, the rest had died in training accidents. Dad requested reassignment to Europe. His thinking was if I am to be killed I would just as soon the Germans did the job. Around he went back oversees the 23rd of March 44, the day before his 30th birth day. On his 4th Mission of this tour and 56th overall he was shot down on 11 April 44 and spent 13 months in Stalag XVIIb. Just before he went back overseas he weighed about 160. At Camp Luck Strike 2 weeks after being liberated he weighed 92 lbs. To hear him tell it he had it easy when compared to those who were captured by the Japs. I cannot imagine what the Soldiers of the 1st and 29th ID went through on Omaha Beach or the hell the Marines, Army and Navy faced in the Pacific. I guess one thing that most all Veterans have is a deep love of their country, pride in their service and those who served in combat a real love of their buddies. I also think most that lost buddies think of them every time the see the flag pass by, have the heart ripped out of their chest every time they hear taps, and get very sad every time they hear of another soldier coming home in a box.
Irish Red OToole, #48939 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Any man or woman that took the oath, wore the uniform, and did their duty honorably. It's as simple as that.
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