Red Logan #12252 Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 http://www.davidpalermo.com/data/slideshow/4/index.html
GunClick Rick Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 Go to full screen click the left arrow and drag all the way over to the side of the screen then spin like crazy
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 The more important question is to ask them if they have heard of WWII.
Dusty Balz, SASS#46599 Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 Had the honor of meeting General Tibbitts a few years ago. Our greatest generation
Complicated Lady Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 There is a woman in our community, Sulphur Springs Texas, who's real name is Enola Gay. She is a DJ for our local radio station. Yes, her parents named her after the airplane.
Lazarus Longshot, SASS #44254 Life Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 And if they know what the Enola Gay was, ask about Bock's Car......
Tequila Jim #14501 Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 Did the Enola Gay drop both bombs? Regards, TJ
Bugs Bonney SASS # 10171 Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 No The second bomb was dropped by Bock's Car I've seen Box Car at the Airforce Museum in Dayton and was privelaged to shake Mr. Tibbits hand and thank him for his service about two years before he died. Bugs
Lazarus Longshot, SASS #44254 Life Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 Yep, what the Enola Gay and Little Boy (Uranium bomb) did to Hiroshima, Bock's Car and Fat Man (Plutonium bomb) did to Nagasaki.
Yukon Charley, SASS Life #14739 Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 I know Enola's husband, Ben, quite well!!!
Church Key, SASS # 33713 Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 I worked with a fellow at the US Dept. of Energy (we both started at the AEC before it became the DOE) who got a complete tour of the Enola Gay when it was being refurbshed at the Smithsonian's Suitland, MD complex. He was delivering a box of original bomb cover screws that had been refurbshed at Sandia Labs after they scratched them up while dismantling a Fat Man intended for display. I guess they never heard of Brownells screwdrivers. Anyhow, the Smithsonian really got annoyed with Sandia for their careless handling of the bomb. He said the tour was fascinating, especially the 1940's technology. He was a retired nuclear sub reactor operator.
DocWard Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 Well, my oldest is 16 and my youngest 13, so hopefully it will be quite some time before I can ask grandkids any questions. I can say with confidence they both know about the Enola Gay, and both have seen Bockscar a number of times at the Air Force Museum. I never got to meet General Tibbetts myself, but my wife got to hear him speak and he was a regular at the VA clinic one of my good friends from my National Guard unit works at.
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 I have seen Bock's car at the museum as well. haven't seen Enola Gay yet. Gen. Tibbet's mother was named Enola Gay, the plane was named after her........Buck
GunClick Rick Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 Down the street from my place. http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/the-gr...view/?service=0
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 See, jus' because Enola was gay doesn't mean she wouldn't drop the A-bomb.
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 I've seen Bock's Car and Enola Gay several times each, and my dad has a book, Return of the Enola Gay, autographed by Colonel Tibbits and Dutch Van Kirk, the navigator. He had the privilege of meeting both at a veterans' conference. He also has the book, Enola Gay, by Gordon Thomas and Max Morgan Witts. From Colonel Tibbits own account, this book was the most accurate telling of all sides of the atomic bomb. The authors interviewed many Americans and Japanese and paint a fascinating picture of what went into the mission.
Dorado Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 My grandfather was a Marine photographer and was assigned to document the tests of those bombs before they were dropped. I used to have one of the pictures he took. In it it shows the mushroom cloud standing a little over a foot tall in the picture, surrounding it are dozens of battleships the longest looking to be about a inch long. Those were some kind of big.
Hacker, SASS #55963 Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 Dorado, I think you are talking about the operation crossroads that took place after ww2 Operation Crossroads Only 3 bombs were made prior to end of ww2 Trinity, hiroshima, nagasaki. Operations crossroads were bombs 4 and 5 were detonated in the summer of 1946 As for the plane that bombed nagasaki according to a view of the nose art it was Bockscar
Dorado Posted December 23, 2010 Posted December 23, 2010 Dorado, I think you are talking about the operation crossroads that took place after ww2 Operation Crossroads Only 3 bombs were made prior to end of ww2 Trinity, hiroshima, nagasaki. Operations crossroads were bombs 4 and 5 were detonated in the summer of 1946 As for the plane that bombed nagasaki according to a view of the nose art it was Bockscar You may be right, it's been a while since he told me. I didn't know about Operation Crossroads thanks for the link.
Blackwater 53393 Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 If memory serves, the Enola Gay was named for Tibbits' mother in law. Somewhere I remember an interview or something of that nature where the Colonel said that on the flight, the thought crossed his mind that Enola spelled backward came out ALONE. He said the irony was........
Hacker, SASS #55963 Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 The B-29 that dropped Little Boy on Hiroshima was named Enola Gay in honor of Col Tibbets Mother. Enola Gay Enola Gay (wikipedia) Enola Gay is currently located at the NASM's Steven F Udvar-Hazy Center at Dulles.
Blackwater 53393 Posted December 24, 2010 Posted December 24, 2010 If you want to see a classic example of an attempt at history being re-written, google "1995 Enola Gay controversy". I was amazed!! Also check out Martin Harwit. Thanks Hacker, My mistake on the mother thing.
Hacker, SASS #55963 Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 One less than amusing thing that I have encountered is that the japanese appear to believe that the war began in August 1945 and ended shortly there after. Their government lied to the citizens throughout the war. The loss of the 4 carriers at the Battle of Midway was concealed from them for most of the war. The death of Adm Isoroku Yamamoto was concealed and then finally admitted and buried with honor. They hardly knew about Pearl Harbor. Our history books since the libs rewrote them appear not to be helping this.
DocDisaster # 45431 Posted December 25, 2010 Posted December 25, 2010 Enola Gay, they may think it is one of Barney Frank four priorities!!! Doc
GunClick Rick Posted December 26, 2010 Posted December 26, 2010 The results from my father in laws photo book. http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/gunc...urrender001.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/gunc...urrender016.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/gunc...urrender113.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/gunc...urrender008.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/gunc...urrender035.jpg
ThundeRiver Bill, SASS #29651 Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 movie version, Above and Beyond, with Robert Taylor!
Subdeacon Joe Posted December 27, 2010 Posted December 27, 2010 From the Denver Post WWII, PTO Photos 91 and 95 I find VERY interesting. 91 I half suspect is staged.
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