boomtown johnny Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Can the below be shipped direct as an antique Looking for input from FFL From my best information this is a Remington action and is fitted with a Numrich Barrel. 24" Barrel Buckhorn rear site. 44-40 caliber Nice wood with no cracks http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq130/jcschreiber/RB1.jpg http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq130/jcschreiber/RB4.jpg http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq130/jcschreiber/RB6.jpg http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq130/jcschreiber/RB3.jpg http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq130/jcschreiber/RB5.jpg http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq130/jcschreiber/RB2.jpg $550 to your FFL in lower 48 states IS THERE A FFL OUT THERE THAT CAN CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS TO GO TO A FFL Would consider a trade for a 45-70 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adirondack Jack, SASS #53440 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Maybe yes, maybe no. If it is a later #5 action, made after 1898, then it is by law a firearm. If it is a number 1 or 1 1/2 action, they were all made prior to that date. The best way to tell is to read the patent date lines on the top tang. If none are after 1898, and it's a "big" (full sized) roller, it is an antique, and can be ahipped the same way as a claw hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adirondack Jack, SASS #53440 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Doubletap (must be in gun fighter mode) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomtown johnny Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Maybe yes, maybe no. If it is a later #5 action, made after 1898, then it is by law a firearm. If it is a number 1 or 1 1/2 action, they were all made prior to that date. The best way to tell is to read the patent date lines on the top tang. If none are after 1898, and it's a "big" (full sized) roller, it is an antique, and can be ahipped the same way as a claw hammer. There is no markings or serial numbers on the gun. I was under the impression that if a gun was able to use current commercially produced ammo than it had to be sent to a FFL?? If it is a Antique can I send it oversea's I have a offer from down under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 If it is a Antique can I send it oversea's I have a offer from down under That's a question best put to our Aussie Pards. I'm not sure but it seems to me that in that situation it would have to go from an FFL here who also holds an exporter's license to a receiving Aussie dealer. Somebody who could more than likely tell you is Boyd Davis SASS # 2 US Grant, owner of EMF. He doesn't frequent the Wire so you would have to call him @ EMF tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Morningwood Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 It is the receiver that makes it an antique. As mentioned, if patent dates are in the 1860s and 1870s, then you are OK. None of these actions were produced or manufactured after that date until introduction of the No. 5 smokeless actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Pony Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Boomtown, here's the thread I mentioned in your classified post http://sassnet.com/forums/index.php?showto...480&hl=USPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adirondack Jack, SASS #53440 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Yep, international shipping will depend on regs in the receiving country. The business with current ammo DOES hold sway for some states, but not under federal law. There is a list online (google pre-1899 firearms) that helps. For model identification, see some very good photos at: http://www.rollingblockparts.com/ That will help definitively identify models. Look for screw placements, etc. As above, all except most of the #5 were antiques. The #5, even the earliest versions, that span the drop off date and thus we can't tell which slot they fit in, is NOT exempt from treatment as a firearm under federal law. The lack of patent lines on the tang means it's been severely sanded OR it isn't a real remmie at all. There were clones made in places like Pakistan and China that are not worth the cost of freight..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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