Deadeye Dallas, SASS #60249 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 " How did I make the Taurus Lightning work? " I have been asked this question a lot lately. To start with you need a good understanding on how a lightning functions and how to take it apart. It would be like any rifle you are going to do action work on. Look for rough edges and unusal wear area. Once everything is clean deburred and polished, put it back together and test. This is where you have to evaluate what is going on with the particular rifle. There isn't one overall fix like Widder did on the Marlin, just plain old gunsmithing. That said, I still have one little glitch that came up on one stage this weekend. The carrier lifted the round too high. I plan to relieve metal from the bottom of the locking brace where any over travel may add pressure to the carrier. The next Taurus may have a different problem. Remember the ammo retention mechanism needs to stay clean. Easy to keep a lightning clean, just take stock off spray down with CRC brake cleaner, blow out or let drain, then relube. Using 250 grain 45 colt will help keep rifle cleaner. Be sure your chamber is clean, one area I polish a lot. If I run across any constant repeating problem I will post about. Like any rifle, If you take too much metal off you better have a Tig and know how to use it. Till later Deadeye Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Good info Dallas. Got one that works that you wanna sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Dallas, SASS #60249 Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Col, the rifle I have been talking about and showing in the videos belongs to Deadlee Headlee. He would probably sell it because he doesn't load 45 colt. Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I wouldn't have believed it iffn I haddn't seen it.....and I seen it!! I believe it! CC, who might need one of those new fangled thangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Col,the rifle I have been talking about and showing in the videos belongs to Deadlee Headlee. He would probably sell it because he doesn't load 45 colt. Dallas Thanks Dallas. I'll contact him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Dallas, SASS #60249 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 Hi Cheyenne, Really enjoyed shooting with you this past weekend. It was a fun day. See you on the trail. Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls Head Bill SASS#33692 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 " How did I make the Taurus Lightning work? " Jack the Taurus Lightning up...........slide a Uberti 1873 under it...........remove the Taurus Lightning. It's a very easy procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls Head Bill SASS#33692 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 When I saw the topic I thought it was gonna be a joke kind of like: How do you get a jeep going over 80 miles an hour? Drop it out of a plane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Augustus #6390 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 After looking over the directions for disassembling Lightnings, are there many differences for the Taurus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Dallas, SASS #60249 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 After looking over the directions for disassembling Lightnings, are there many differences for the Taurus? All the Colt clones are very similar, the difference is how they attach the locking brace. AWA uses a small screw, USFA and colt use a pin through the brace, Taurus uses a pin as a retainer. For cleaning purposes it is not necessary to remove the brace. In my opinion Beretta, Uberti and Pedersoli are NOT clones. If you have any particular questions PM me or email at HarryJeffcoat@ij.net. Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Dallas, SASS #60249 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 Kinda funny that there sure has been a lot of 73 post about problems, maybe you should add one of the Widdermatics under your 73! Dallas Jack the Taurus Lightning up...........slide a Uberti 1873 under it...........remove the Taurus Lightning. It's a very easy procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Henry Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 To use a Tarus Lightning as a RELIABLE defensive weapon, grab 1" below muzzle with both hands. Swing the buttstock at opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Texas Jack Black Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I know where there are 15 AWA Lightnings New And all are for sale. 38,44-40, 38-40, 45colt T J B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Dallas, SASS #60249 Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 I know where there are 15 AWA Lightnings New And all are for sale. 38,44-40, 38-40, 45colt T J B Does any of the 38's have octagon barrels? Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duster Tom Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Does any of the 38's have octagon barrels? Dallas I'm sure he's talking about the guns at The Gun Room in Shrewsbury Mass. They have been sitting there overpriced and collecting dust since the owner bought them in a blowout sale when the original AWA went under. It's been probably about 5 years or so since I looked at them. I don't remember there being 15 but there were at least eight of them then. Could have been more. Can't remember details on them except that there are the early guns. You could call them. Gun Room of Shrewsbury Inc 276 Boston Tpke Shrewsbury, MA 01545 (508) 754-0359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Back to the top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalton Masterson, SASS #51139 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 The hardest part is getting the post driver over the butt stock. Once you get that part done, drive it as deep as needed and run the wire... Glad you got it running! I shoot a Pedersoli and didnt have to tinker a bit, but for the price, I shouldnt have had to. I had an AWA briefly. It wouldnt even run 10 rounds slow through it, let alone fast. DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Dallas, SASS #60249 Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 The hardest part is getting the post driver over the butt stock. Once you get that part done, drive it as deep as needed and run the wire... Glad you got it running! I shoot a Pedersoli and didnt have to tinker a bit, but for the price, I shouldnt have had to. I had an AWA briefly. It wouldnt even run 10 rounds slow through it, let alone fast. DM I could have fixed that AWA and then you could have slam fired! In fact you might have a hard time staying up with one of these modified Taurus's on a dump target. Dallas Also this is an older thread, I have come up with a carrier mod since this topic that corrects feeding issues with round coming up too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalton Masterson, SASS #51139 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Have you figured out how to make a Pedersoli slam fire yet? I tried that, and had to have some welding done.... DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadeye Dallas, SASS #60249 Posted December 16, 2010 Author Share Posted December 16, 2010 Have you figured out how to make a Pedersoli slam fire yet? I tried that, and had to have some welding done.... DM I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers, just messing with you. I know Pedersoli has excellent quality, I have one of their Billy Dixon Sharps. When Pedersoli came out they talked about a modern design that was different from Colt's. They went to great links to make them so They would not slam fire. Beretta did the same. I have had a beretta a part and fixed the feeding problem, I did not try to change the design. If the Beretta was mine then I would experiment. I have never seen a Pedersoli, around here it is mostly AWA and now Taurus. Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalton Masterson, SASS #51139 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Oh no. I didnt even get a hint at ruffling feathers. The Pedersoli has a little disconnector in there that keeps it from slamfiring. If that could be defeated...... My AWA was a short little carbine version, and was not too my liking. The lack of function was second as I have an excellent gunsmith available. I would like to find a working one cheap somewhere in 38-40, but..... DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Gents, what it sounds like to me is .... as Dallas gets more of the rifles in his hands, each one is like a potential Beauty Queen - Unique! So, if you have one of these pumps and are thinking about Dallas doing his 'magic' ... I would go to the end of the line cause he has found all the bugs by then. Plus he has an easier job getting it to work. Kind of like a Flow Chart - Start > down the chart tree or Yes or No's > Done And don't think you can become a Kitchen Table Gunsmith if he did make such a Chart. Why? Cause ya never operated on one before! Will say this though, if there was such a Chart and Kitchen Table Gunsmiths ... sure would be a helluva lot of 'Help' posts instead of when the AWA's came out years back - Bitches about the rifle! Dallas, there's going to be many folks nominating you for the SASS Cowboy Hall of Fame!!! In the meantine, a BIG Thanks for what you are doing for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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