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To start with see my previous post BP substitute first time loading to explain what got me here. Saturday I shot my first match in the Frontier Cartridge Duelist category, I loved it! Was I good? No. Did I make smoke? Like you wouldn't believe. It's challenging changing not only shooting styles but also that and changing to BP at the same time, so I wasn't expecting much in the way of speed or accuracy. Y'all were right, there were times that the smoke made it hard to see the targets and the guns got much dirtier than shooting smokeless, but it was worth it! I felt like I was being true to the past since all they shot was what we now call BP. I'm pretty sure that I'm preaching to the choir, but I LOVED the recoil and the sound, it was like night and day from the smokeless. I'd like to thank everyone that helped me along the way, between coming up with cartridge and shotshell loads to just general encouragement to try it. The only thing that I found different from what I was told was with the shotgun. I used plastic wads and I didn't get any melted plastic in the chambers, we shot 5 stages with 4 shotgun targets in each stage, the gun got hot but lucky for me no melted plastic. Now I'm going to have to load more so I can shoot my next Frontier Cartridge match. Once again thanks.