I sure somewhere on here is a topic on this, so if you know of, please direct me there! Since the reloading forums have over 600 pages of post, a bit of help would be appreciated. If not, I'm wanting to reload 10 gauge plastic 3 1/2" Winchester hulls, but light, low power, and only 1 to 1 1/4oz. #8 shot for a cowboy load. Has anybody used Clays, or Red Dot for them? I'm having a hard time finding info, and the loads in my Lyman book for 10 gauge are magnum, blow your shoulder out of joint loads. I don't want that! Any suggestions as to where to look, or know of a good load to use?