Itchy Trigger

And this is after they DIGITIZED the process so that it could be approved much faster than the previous paper edition which was much harder for the government to sort and accidentally release to the media.

Is there now a CAS group on Oahu? I thought the only one was on Maui.

I sign up for all the free stuff that I can get physically mailed to me by the opposition. I feel that everything that costs them a buck, means they have one less buck to spend on something that I detest more!

The long awaited ruling is about to become regulation, but not law. ================================================================== New rule on pistol attachments to boost gun safety, U.S. Justice Department says (msn.com) WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department announced on Friday a new rule targeting pistol attachments known as "stabilizing braces," implementing a key move in the Biden administration's efforts to beef up gun control regulations. A stabilizing brace is an attachment to a pistol that functionally turns it into a short-barreled rifle, similar to a sawed-off shotgun. Such weapons are considered particularly deadly as they offer the power of a traditional rifle, but are much easier to conceal. For decades, short-barreled rifles have been subject to strict regulations, including a law known as the National Rifle Act, which requires additional taxation and background checks for private transfers, among other provisions. The new rule clarifies that pistols modified by a stabilizing brace are subject to those additional requirements, department officials said. "This rule enhances public safety and prevents people from circumventing the laws Congress passed almost a century ago. In the days of Al Capone, Congress said back then that short-barreled rifles and sawed-off shotguns should be subjected to greater legal requirements than most other guns," said Steven Dettelbach, the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Last year, President Joe Biden and U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland announced they were planning measures to tackle stabilizing braces as well as "ghost guns" - a type of firearm that is assembled by users and practically untraceable. While Democrats in Congress have pushed aggressively for new regulations of stabilizing braces, most Republicans have opposed such measures, portraying them as an infringement on Americans' constitutional gun rights. The new rule gives owners, manufacturers and distributors 120 days to report their stabilizing braces to the ATF tax-free. They may also remove the stabilizing brace or turn in any pistol modified by a stabilizing brace to the ATF. It goes into effect once it is published in the Federal Register, likely next week, department officials said. (Reporting by Gram Slattery and Susan Heavey in Washington; Editing by Matthew Lewis)

I believe that it was made by VIERLING. They have A four barrelled (2 Rifle, 2 Shotgun) long gun on the cover of the web page below. VIERLING – A Four-Barrelled Rifle-Shotgun - Johann Fanzoj JOHANN FANZOJ´s unbelievable “Four-Barrelled Rifle-Shotgun” (VIERLING) - Johann Fanzoj An astonishing technical tour-de-force, from the conception, design & crafting of this MASTERPIECE over a 6 year span,” smiles creative director Daniela Fanzoj representing Johann Fanzoj gunmakers, still in disbelief of this monumental undertaking, “something that I will see happen only once in my lifetime in our workshop”. The basis for the design and construction of this extraordinary four-barrel firearm was that of a client’s specific request and fantasy of paring a side-by-side double rifle (Cal. 9,3/9,3X74R) with an Over-and-Under shotgun (Gauge 20/20/76mm) to be transformed into one single firearm. The customer required that the Vierling fire four times in succession, with “hot” barrels; The platform should be a robust, reliable mechanism that would guarantee inherent quick handling characteristics – then quickly reload and continue in the same sequence, which in other words demands that the sporting weapon have ejectors for all four barrels! “At this point it was definitely time to hold up the STOP sign – and run,” recalls Daniela Fanzoj, which the firm did not do, but rather “we took the bull by its horns, dug into this challenge and built this incredible weapon”. The result is a stunning and unsurpassed intricate mechanism, also being an object of culture and worth(value), which exhibits an amazing level of performance. Four barrels, H&H style sidelocks, 4 individual automatic ejectors, did little to lessen this impressive sporting arm’s responsiveness and wonderful balance. Massive, without a doubt, but not “heavy” at all with a weight of 3,8kg this sporting weapon handles magnificently. It was an enormous task to design and build, as well as join and regulate the barrels twp-times-two in order that they would shoot together at the same point of impact, in sequence – first the 9,3mm barrels then the shotgun barrels simply by pushing the barrel selector forward, the shooter continues his regiment with the 20-gauge barrels. Automatic ejectors for the shotgun barrels facilitate quick reloading for additional four shots. Which it does without hesitation; what a pleasure of a very specific, unique nature to fire in quick succession a quadruple series in sequence from this amazing, functional piece of High Art.”

It is an image that I received in email and liked. I "thought" it was real, because I can't see someone adding a .22 CF to an imaginary gun.

A .22 caliber center-fire, two 8x57mmRs and a 20 gauge...that would handle most things you are apt to run into in the hunting field...

Not so sure, I am reading daily briefings on Ukraine and wouldn’t be surprised to see the same in Taiwan within the next ten years. Strongly recommend watching “The Fog of War” about about the life and times of former U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. The line that I have always remembered was his comments about the fire bombings of Tokyo, “the only reason that we were not prosecuted for war crimes was because we won the war.”

LGS got in several hundred pounds of Unique a few weeks ago. At least 20 8lb containers and several crates of 1lb and 4lb. It was reasonably priced, not cheap, but it wasn't at the astronomical prices I was seeing at gun shows for it!

What is the point of judicial precedents if lawmakers can just pass new law after new law in violation of it? Each law goes into effect for a certain amount of time, with many requiring you to destroy/turn in items that were legally purchased (ie bump stocks, magazines, etc.) and turn over vast quantities of personal information (this law) when it was (or most likely will be) declared unconstitutional. Which will then allow the lawmakers to pass an almost equivalent law with a few words changed to restart the process! ======================== Supreme Court lets New York enforce gun law during lawsuit (msn.com) WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court is allowing New York to continue to enforce a sweeping new gun law banning guns from “sensitive places” for now while a court challenge plays out. The justices on Wednesday turned away a plea by the law's challengers. The gun owners wanted the high court to lift a federal appeals court order that temporarily put on hold a lower court decision blocking portions of the law. The appeals court hasn't finished its review of the case, and justices are often reluctant to weigh in under those circumstances. The justices could still consider the case and the law more generally in the future. New York lawmakers rewrote the state’s handgun laws over the summer after a June Supreme Court ruling invalidated New York’s old system for granting permits to carry handguns outside the home. The ruling said that Americans have a right to carry firearms in public for self-defense, invalidating the New York law, which required people to show a specific need to get a license to carry a gun outside the home. The ruling was a major expansion of gun rights nationwide and resulted in challenges to other, similar state laws. The new law New York passed in the wake of the ruling broadly expanded who can get a license to carry a handgun, but it increased training requirements for applicants and required them to provide more information including a list of their social media accounts. Applicants for a license must also demonstrate “good moral character.” Beyond that, the law included a long list of places where firearms are banned, among them: schools, playgrounds, places of worship, entertainment venues, places that serve alcohol and Times Square. U.S. District Judge Glenn Suddaby, however, declared multiple portions of the law unconstitutional and issued a preliminary injunction barring certain provisions' enforcement. But the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit had put that ruling on hold while it considers the case. Challengers to the law had asked the high court to step in and allow Suddaby's ruling blocking parts of the law to go into effect while the case continues.

I agree with everything you said about leaving and watching guns. But, I have been at an event that you were probably at where the person to my left finished loading their guns and moved their long guns to the right hitting my long guns. I put enough dings in my guns, I don't want anyone else scratching them! Personally, I don't like expeditors picking up my rifle and carrying it to the unloading table either. The way I read the initial post, that is what I believe happened. Nobody left the loading table, the 2nd or 3rd person in line was just careless (and maybe trying to hurry things for no reason) when they moved their long guns bumping into the next persons guns. The pistol(s) were probably left (unsafely?) to close to the edge of the table or possibly resting on another gun, which due to a chain reaction or murphy caused one to fall of the table. There are several posts saying that the person that caused the incident never spoke up, but the original poster never said that. The instigator may have spoken up, but the TO at the event decided that the SASS rules only applied to the owner of the guns since they were his responsibility.

I have been told that by more than one club that you COULD NOT holster until you were the next shooter!

Cleanliness is next to Godliness, or that is what my ma told me!

Something that was obvious to the most casual observer, and even the ATF had previously agreed to in writing!!! 5th Circuit Court of Appeals overwhelmingly said the ATF did not have the authority from Congress. Of course, most law-abiding citizens have destroyed the devices that they legally paid their hard-earned money for without any compensation from the government! ========================================================================================================= BREAKING: Federal Court Strikes Down Gun Ban! HUGE Win For Liberty! – SilverCircular BREAKING: HUGE Win For Liberty! What part of ‘SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED’ do they not understand?! We have heard this slogan for decades … while Washington has steadily encroached on the peoples’ right to bear arms. No, the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with the ability to defeat the government in armed conflict. No, we do not want to go to war with the US government, but be sure that if Washington goes completely sideways that’s the reason the 2nd Amendment was created … A federal appeals court on Friday struck down the Trump-era ban on bump stocks, a firearm accessory that enables a semi-automatic gun to shoot at an increased rate of fire. In a 13-3 decision, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans held that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), acting under “tremendous” public pressure, short-circuited the legislative process by approving a rule to define bump stocks as “machineguns,” which are illegal to possess. The court said ATF did not have the authority from Congress to do so. The bump stock ban, opposed by gun rights activists, was enacted by the Trump administration after the 2017 massacre in Las Vegas, where a gunman slaughtered 58 people at a music festival. The shooter used rifles equipped with bump stocks, allowing him to fire more than 1,000 rounds in 11 minutes at a crowd of 22,000 people. In 2018, President Donald Trump signed an executive order instructing the attorney general to regulate bump stocks, and ATF acted in accordance with the president’s order. To do so, the agency reversed its decade-old position that bump stocks were not machineguns. ATF said bump stocks “allow a semiautomatic firearm to shoot more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger by harnessing the recoil energy of the semiautomatic firearm to which it is affixed so that the trigger resets and continues firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter.” The agency ruled bump stocks were “machineguns” because “such devices allow a shooter to initiate a continuous firing cycle with a single pull of the trigger.” Michael Cargill, the appellant, sued the government after he was forced to surrender several bump stocks under the ATF’s rule. He successfully argued that a bump stock does not meet the definition of a “machinegun” under federal law because the trigger functions multiple times to fire the weapon. Federal law defines a machine gun as operating with a “single function of the trigger.” “A plain reading of the statutory language, paired with close consideration of the mechanics of a semi-automatic firearm, reveals that a bump stock is excluded from the technical definition of “machinegun” set forth in the Gun Control Act and National Firearms Act,” Judge Jennifer Walker Elrod wrote in the lead majority opinion.

Exactly, and police will admit that the majority of their convictions are from what someone said during the interview and not necessarily what the subjects were brought in for questioning about. If you were not the shooter, and you are there when the police show up you probably will NOT BE ALLOWED to leave for several hours. They will not be recompensated for their inconvenience, work that they miss, fees for showing up late to pick up your kids, etc. They will have their names put into the public record where anyone who wants to (i.e. media, relatives of the person shot, etc.) can access it and ... I agree that they may have a "public duty" to stay and report, and I probably would. But I also feel that in today's society it is not the smartest thing to do! The shooter should not say a word without a lawyer present, and probably not even with one since the lawyer can speak for him. But again, that means he will (most likely) be out a significant amount of money (either previously paid for insurance or new upfront costs for a lawyer) for an event that he did not precipitate. He definitely will become a public record when found!

Spray scrubbing bubbles on the brass and let stand for 5 minutes. Then put brass filling container (2/3 full), fill with water and 1-2 tbs of dawn and SS pins. Leave some but not much air. I rarely spin for more than 60 minutes. Dump dirty water and most pins into bucket. Rinse and redump with most pins in bucket. Pour brass into bucket after water and pins removed, start drying process.

I don’t understand this article. AFTER the citizen decided to take action to save his and other patrons hides, he had time to return all of the money and jewelry, and then everybody had time to leave the restaurant BEFORE the police arrived to save the day??? The citizen is wanted for questioning? I think the video is pretty self-explanatory!

I took the RO 1 course after my first cowboy shoot, it was a great way to learn the rules! I took the WB RO class before my first WB shoot for the same reason. Strongly recommend people take the class whether they are willing (or capable) of being a TO.

Gun Control in FY 2023 Omnibus Appropriations Gun Owners of America strongly objects to the Senate amendment in the nature of a substitute to H.R. 2617 (hereafter “Omnibus”) because it is infested with Second Amendment infringements. GOA will score all votes to advance the anti-gun appropriations package unless each of the following gun control provisions are struck from the bill: Massive 14.1% ATF Budget Increase to Facilitate Biden’s Pistol Ban $14.4 Million for ATF’s NTC Budget to Maintain it’s Illegal Near-Billion Record Gun Registry $700+ Million in Funding Available to Bribe States to Pass “Red Flag” Gun Confiscation Laws Directing VA Medical Centers to Utilize Confiscation Orders on Vulnerable Veterans Department of Education to Push “Safe Storage” of Parents’ Firearms Funding for VA to Maintain “Gun Storage Maps” to Keep Tabs on Where Veterans Keep Guns New Annual Compensation for Families of Deceased ATF Agents Could be an Indication of Upcoming Gun Confiscation Gun Control Earmarks for “Orchid Healing Circles” and More! Dickey Violations Galore While CDC Suppresses Self-Defense Statistics Programs Discouraging Women from Exercising their Second Amendment Rights Anti-Gun “Community Violence Intervention” Initiatives “Violent Anti-Government Ideology” and “Domestic Radicalization Research” It is an outrage that any legislator sworn to uphold the Constitution and the Second Amendment would even consider passing a 4,155-page $1.7 trillion appropriations bill with so many gun control provisions. Our Founding Fathers would be ashamed. Each gun control must be struck from any final government appropriations package in order to respect the Second Amendment and eliminate opposition from gun owners. ...

Simple, the powers that be, no believe in Constitution.

The last order I put in at Natchez never arrived, even though I paid extra for Hazmat and a signature. They have a signature, but it sure isn't mine since I don't misspell my name! Been a few months and it still has not been resolved despite filing a police report. I will order elsewhere.

Whoopin ‘22 was a blast, literally! Lookin forward to '23.

I've "heard" good things from people that use them on a regular basis, but I have also heard some horror stories. The biggest complaint has been about the part of the gun resting on the bottom of the ultrasonic cleaner becoming discolored. Don't personally know anyone that does a whole gun, they always part it out first.

Ambrose Is good but By far the best book I have read is George Drouillard: Hunter and Interpreter for Lewis and Clark and Fur Trader, 1807-1810

Some use the walnut media to dry (and slightly lube) their brass after wet tumbling. Haven't tried mixing media myself, but I would assume that the heavy pins would all go to the bottom of the walnut media and if Murphy is around, screw up something in the vibratory mechanism.