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Matthew McCrae

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  1. On 4/23/2020 at 11:16 AM, Marshal Fire, SASS 10064 said:

    Most Shiloh owners I believe will say that the rifle has continued to improve with the move to Montana. The current owners are the Bryant family and guns made under their ownership will begin with a B in the serial number. There is a lot of discussion that firearms made prior to the "B" series may have a chamber that was cut to use paper patch bullets. I am by no means an expert of the Sharps but I do recall that many people will chose to buy a Shiloh with the B series. I have two that were made prior to the change in ownership, both are quality rifles and they shoot very well. I do believe that the guns made now are among the best and there is a warranty for a "lifetime" to original owners. I have toured the company plant twice and am very impressed with the rifles and the staff at Shiloh. The biggest issue with the Shiloh is once you buy one you will soon realize that you "want" more. The are great fun to shoot!

    The biggest misnomer in Shiloh rifles was he so called Paper Patch Chamber. a Chamber that had a freebore. That was not a Paper patch chamber. It was IIRC due to the popularity of Grease grove bullets and the need to seat them out farther to gain case capacity on the like of the 45-70 and possibly the 45-90
    Paper patch bullets should be (under all but the most extreme circumstances) patched to .001" under bore diameter and no freebore is needed. That so called paper patch chamber was just the opposite. When a paper patched bullet is fired in a freebore chamber the bullet obsturates filling the freebore and will strip the paper jacket from the bullet and now you have an ungreased, ungroved pure lead bullet mucking up the work and each subsequent round just makes it worse. How ever that design got mixed up in the rifles is of no consequence because that was early NY guns. a few guys in the BPCR competitions petitioned Wolfgang to change the chambers. I believe the Montana guns never have a freebored chamber. But I'm not 100% sure. 

    I'm sure OLG knows far more about this than I do. I've just been doing a lot of reading lately and three reloading manuals in have say that a freebored 45 Black powder chamber is not a paper patch chamber. 

    I have a Shiloh in 45-110 and there is no free bore but that stands to reason. It's about a month old at this point. 

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