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  1. I've been professionally hand engraving jewelry for nearly 30 years and it naturally carried over to engraving some guns brought to me, usually newer guns brought by new owners. With hesitation, I completed the work as people requested. 

     But none of my own guns are engraved. 


    It is very difficult to design a piece of artwork that has what is called 'mystery of effect' that persists through time.  Often a design looks very appealing early on, but as months go by, the newness and appeal wear off, unless there is some personal attachment to the design.  It is really hard to embellish the looks of a finely made firearm beyond the appeal of its original fit and finish.  (Upgrading the wood is usually an exception). 


    The Brittish mastered the art of very fine gun engraving on fine guns by Purdy, Holland and Holland, and others, many decades ago.   But those guns' value supports that quality of hand work.  Few engravers will spend that kind of time for $1,500  on an $800 gun.  Laser engraving is a much cheaper substitute and it has its legitimate place, but it usually looks like ---well-- laser engraving.  As with music, computer perfection is not a substitute for artistic character.


    Engraving an owner's name is a sure way to reduce the value of any future sale,  unless the owner is Ulyses S. Grant or George Custer.  Phrases like "Don't Tread on Me" or "Semper fi"  or "Give me liberty or give me death" are different.  They have broader appeal, even with passage of time. 


    My advice to anyone contemplating a gun engraving job is to PAUSE and LOOK first.  Once it is done, it is permanent.  You have to like it after looking at it thousands of times.  It is very hard to do artwork that can satisfy that.  Appeal isn't just about precision.  It is much easier to reduce gun value by engraving than it is to increase value, regardless of the artwork's cost. 

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  2. For my home protection, I took the advice shared here in the Saloon a couple years ago.  I picked up a couple more cats at the shelter and bought an extra laser pointer for my wife.  Anyone breaching our front door is going to find a red dot on center mass, shortly followed by lots of claws. 

    Go ahead-- Bring it!

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  3. On 10/26/2023 at 5:18 AM, Dantankerous said:

    A refrigerator is supposed to keep food cool, period. Doesn't need anything fancy to do that. This just adds unnecessary cost to the prime reason this invention exists. But I'm sure it makes eco-yuppies and enviro-hippies proud to show off to their friends.

    It's all a part of the dumb-down trend.  The day is fast coming when very few appliances or tools will work properly out of the box,  and fixing them will require this month's new digital skills that you havent yet learned.  Out-repair will cost more than buying a new one. 

    You will only need to spend 100% of your time learning new software nuances, instead of quickly fixing stuff in your shop and going fishing.  

    We are already to the point where finding a young man or woman who knows how to do something--anything beyond a phone or computer keyboard is a rarity.   

    A big solar coronal mass ejection someday will wipe our civilization out-- literally. 

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  4. News reports the Marine Corps is unable to procure woodland pattern  camouflage uniforms due to a manufacturer supply problem projected to last until fall, 2024.


    That sure seems to me like a national security issue to be solved by a temporary Federal takeover of production lines,  like they did for Covid masks, etc.  It sure is hard to understand the decisions being made nowadays. 


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  5. 13 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

    Let's see, Biden just traded 6 billion dollars for 5 US/Iranian citizens held by Iran so that Iran could finance Hamas and Hezbollah. Wonder how much he will pay Hamas for dozens of Americans held by Hamas?:angry:


    It's way past time to use the biggest Thermobaric bombs, that we have, to completely level Gaza with no warning. Have the Israeli's pull back to a safe distance to watch. It'll never happen though as it is against International Laws...you know...the ones that (evidently) only the US abide by.:angry:

    They can do North Korea the same day.  

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  6. 4 hours ago, Tennessee Trapper Tom said:



    It’s 1977. My neighbor was a Dog Trainer for the Military Police. He owned 2 German Shepard that were extremely well trained. I was stationed at Fort Hood, Tx. On the weekends, Friday night he would drop them at one of the local banks to guard for the weekend. Over the course of a couple of years he taught me how to train dogs, specifically Shepards. One of the things I learned is that this breed communicates with its mouth all the time.


    The picture I have included is Kount. He is now 3 years old and coming into his own.Trust me when I saw you don’t want to come on my property unless I am present. He currently weighs 128 Lbs. Import breed from Europe. 


    As I said these dogs communicate with their mouths. My arms stayed chewed all to heck for at least 1 1/2 years until his razor sharp teeth dulled enough for his love grabs. 


    Typically, when giving love grabs, his ears fold back showing submission. When he jumps up and grabs my arm in his jaws, his front paws are folded back. If attacking, he will go for the face and neck, and his paws will be forward and ready.


    My Point:  The only picture I have seen in the news, “Commander” is shown with the gardener. His ears are folded back, paws are facing downward and he is gripping his arm. This SHepard likes the gardener and wants some attention. Being a young Shepard his teeth are very sharp and only takes mild pressure to tear a persons skin. This would also be true of the Presidents security. I very much dislike our current President, but “Commander is getting a bad rap. 


    People that don’t know how to train this breed, personally should not own them unless they hire a trainer (mainly for themself). 


    The breed has a Shepard in background, hence the name. They will stay as close to you as possible, protecting their flock. If they don’t like where you are going they will try to “Herd” you back to where they can keep you with the rest of their Flock. When the wife goes to bed it drives him crazy that we are in separate rooms and he will pester me as he constantly goes back and forth trying to guard his family. If I give in and go to bed, he will lay in front of the bedroom entrance all night with an occasional clearance check of the entire house.


    I will own this breed until I’m gone from this world. Although the price from the breeder, how specifically breeds for the military and police, is about $3500 now. It is so worth the investment. 


    Incidentally, I paid the extra money for the breeding rights. 


    I agree with you.  As a kid,  I had several German Shepherds and they are very tightly bonded to their particular humans.  They will sacrifice themselves to protect.  But if too many people are involved in managing them, they can become confused.  I am wondering how many different handlers Commander has  and if he ever is taken for a walk by HIS people?  

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  7. I carry epipens almost daily, due to severe bee sting allergy.  They have a relatively short effective shelf life (12-18 months, minus prior store shelf life) if not properly refridgerated.  So the replacement cost is there eventually whether or not you share your supply, which I have done a number of times. 

    So a more salient question is whether or not you are worried about needing it yourself after giving it away and before replenishing.  For me, that is a life or death decision and the $ cost question pales by comparison.  

  8. On 10/7/2023 at 4:20 PM, Subdeacon Joe said:

    The country we need to put pressure on is Saudi Arabia.  That is the center of the mohammedean world, no matter what sect.  "You have a week to get those thugs under control, I.e. dead.  If not, Medina gets a nuke .  Two days after that, if you still don't have the Hamas thugs, Mecca gets the same."

    Shortly after after Iran has a functional nuke, Israel will be toast.  I'm sure Israel leadership and military know and believe that.  They've pleaded with the U.S. and U.N. to help them block any Iranian nuke development, but to no avail. 

    The Chinese dominated UN will not take a police action against any "Axis of Evil" powers and the Biden Admin just financed the next phase of Iran's nuke development ( that is after Hillary sold them the Uranium). 


    So don't be surprised if Israel turns some middle eastern centers into glass in the days ahead.  And don't follow the rush to condemn them if they do, looking at their options, which are darned few now.  It is literally eat or be eaten, and their allies turn out to be either inept or disingenuous. 

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  9. 1 hour ago, Pat Riot said:

    Water Moccasins are the meanest snakes I have ever encountered. Glad you you weren’t bitten. 

    I wonder how .22 Magnum snake shot would do on one of those serpents?

    I have no Cottonmouth experience, but I've encountered some really crabby Copperheads that were real quick to attack with little provocation.


     I have shot a few fair sized rattlesnakes (40+" class) w .22 long rifle snake shot.  At close range < 8', It devastated them.  Head was all but gone.  But there's nothing like a .410 or bigger shotgun. 


    Flat blade shovels are OK, but ONLY IF VERY SHARP (mine almost never are.)  AND if you're agile enough to get back without falling over backwards when a snake comes directly after you, They can come at you way faster than you expect. 


     You'll almost never kill them with a single shovel chop, so don't expect to.


    Best is not to mess with them, if they're not around a dwelling or campsite.  With antivenom costing $3,000-$11,000 per vial, depending on your location, and total treatment costs exceeding $100,000, it is clearly a good practice to give them space when you can. 

  10. On 9/30/2023 at 6:03 PM, Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 said:

    the left , hates everyone that they can NOT control 





    I worry they might be able to control all of us, if they are allowed to follow the road they are on.  History repeats itself, and Marxism always has been a ruthless murderer of dissident individuals.  They just sent a Putin dissident to be bear food in Siberia.  

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  11. I used to (15+ years ago) buy Duracell batteries for my many flashlights and other battery appliances.  I  bought them from local hardware stores or drug stores and they always worked well, lasted well and had no obvious problems.  A flashlight would last me all night, hiking or working. 

     Then, about 10 or so years ago,  I began to buy them at COSTCO in much cheaper bulk packages.  It looked to be a good deal. 

    But WAIT!

    "Made in China" should have signaled me to be cautious.  But I put them into my many lights and appliances, just as I had always done.  These included expensive  tachometers, wood moisture meters, temperature instrumentation, Cameras, and other tools that are expensive to replace.  The Duracells did not last very long, which actually ended up to be a blessing.  Thankfully, I now have to open the battery compartments much sooner than usual to replace the cells.  I very often find  tell-tale white (acid) powder and blue galvanic corrosion that if left unnoticed for a time will slowly destroy the expensive appliances' battery harness.  


    The Duracell external cases are now very fast-corroding, seemingly regardless of humidity or other environmental  conditions.  And I am lucky to get a half-hour of use before the flashlight starts dimming.  


    So, I'm frustrated and looking.  Short of converting everything to Lithium batteries, do any of you have any good reports to share about ordinary batteries?

    Is there a good quality dry cell battery brand out there any more?  I'm looking for a source of all sizes of dry cell batteries that are of similar quality to what we used to buy.  


  12. 22 hours ago, Yul Lose said:

    Running the AC, lights and wipers does lower the range but most of the e vehicles now show where the charging stations are up ahead and there are more and more charging stations being built every day. That being said a few years ago some friends of mine that bought one of the Tesla early models and decided to take a road trip back east in June. They got to about a mile out of Quartzsite, Az. and the car ran out of juice. They could see the Carls Junior sign where the charging stations were but had to wait a couple of hours for the tow truck to get them there. 

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there weren’t charging stations at most fast food restaurants and grocery stores and other businesses in the not to distant future. In Escondido they’re cropping up everywhere, even out in the small town where I live they are in a number of locations.


    Personally if I were going to buy an e vehicle, I’d buy a plug in hybrid. The gasoline engine would still get you there if the batteries wouldn’t.

    IMO, the hybrid technology is much more versatile for people travelling more than a small mileage radius.  TESLA is getting a lot of criticism over their EVs not achieving the advertised mileage.  I suspect the things Alpo mentioned are the reason.   I would love to be able to fuel up my cars right in my own garage, but only if my lifestyle only included short trips.  Unfortunately, the short trip lifestyle doesn't match with my needs.


    Off Topic but related --electric tooling:


      Next year, it will be illegal to sell or buy a new gasoline powered lawn mower, leaf blower, chainsaw, etc.,  in CA.   I need to do heavy logging, so I gave in and bought a battery powered saw to give them a try. (It is my 13th chainsaw -- I do a lot of logging and fire fuel clearing work) 


    I normally use gas-powered saws: Stihl 390 with a 28" bar, 490 with 36" bar, 660 with a 46" bar or 860 with a 56" bar, all using chisel tooth chains.   The largest battery model currently available has a 26" bar, so I was limited right off the starting block. 


    I tested the saw yesterday, limbing and bucking a +- 33" dbh previously felled Jeffrey Pine about 140' in length.   Limbing went ok, but much slower than with a bigger, heavier, higher RPM gas saw.  It took three batteries to limb the fallen tree (about 30 large 12-16" limbs and many more small branches).  Normally, I walk the top of the log, reaching down and cutting limbs with longer saw bars -- i.e., not having to bend over.  The shorter bar necessitated bending over and finally dismounting the log and having to climb through branches and snakes on the ground to do the remaining limbing work.  


    Log bucking to length was a different story.  2/3 of the way through the first bucking cut, using a fresh (4th) battery, the battery became exhausted.  While I paused to change batteries,  the log predictably settled and impinged the saw.   The fresh (5th) battery did not supply sufficient energy/torque to restart the impinged chain, and the high torquing effort exhausted the battery after a few minutes of  trying.  I hiked out to get a gas-powered saw to free the saw and finish the work.  


    Net conclusion:  The $550 electric saw and FIVE batteries ($140 apiece) could not do the work that a gas-powered saw can do on a pint of fossil fuel.  Electric saws definitely have a place and are even impressive in lighter home maintenance and some commercial tree work.  They're lighter and less maintenance intensive and they can get a lot of light work accomplished with less effort.  But , their current development is insufficient for constant heavier work.  The electric tooling is not yet up to the work requirements of commercial or heavy logging.  I can't carry enough batteries and wedges in the field to keep them operating for a day.  And their lower RPM and slower cutting rate is a major production handicap. 


    I guess I'll be driving my gas-powered pickups to Reno or Kingman for future gas-powered saw purchases.   


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  13. On 9/9/2023 at 8:03 PM, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

    I've been thinking:

    EVs may end up being a real boon to the hotel/motel industry.

    I imagine the large chains are selecting land near the limits of a charged vehicle's range, where they will build parking lots with chargers for each parking slot, waiting areas, toilets, restaurants and rooms to rent, short term, while your vehicle is charging. 

    May be time to buy Holiday Inn stock.

    Possibly, but I suspect a more likely outcome is to see distance travel being greatly reduced.  After all, gradually limiting our ability to travel and escape their ultimate One World Government control was the central theme of UN Agenda 21, which is the core of the current progressivism and climate hysteria.  

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  14. On 8/21/2023 at 9:34 AM, Alpo said:

    You are in an accident. You are taken unconscious to the hospital. You are wearing a set of dog tags.


    Would they automatically give you the blood type that it said on the tag, or would they check first?


    Online story. He is wearing his dead wife's dog tags. I presume that it would just have initials for the first middle name - S.J. Johnson, like that? Because I'm pretty sure that "Sarah Jane Johnson" would be a good clue that these were not his dog tags.


    And he and his wife did not have the same type of blood, so they gave him the wrong blood and he goes into a coma.


    Would a hospital actually do something like that, or was that just the author's way to make putting him in a coma work?


    Seemed kind of dumb to me,  but a lot of things people do seem kind of dumb to me. B)

    No.  It takes only a few minutes to type and cross a blood sample, so the hospital would do that first.  But that is not saying mistakes don't get made.  quite a few people handle donated blood, so there is opportunity for human error in labeling, etc.  

  15. 5 hours ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said:

    Dale is saying that not saying the line is contrary to SOG by attempting a competitive advantage.


    BUT I don't believe the definition of SOG supports his argument. 

    SOG applies to actions AFTER the beep - that might be taken to mimimize the effect of an error (i.e. dumping rounds after earning a P).


    The only other thing that could be (wrongly) applied is Failure To Engage.

    I.e refusing to perform a non shooting activity on the clock.

    But again; this is a penalty that only applies AFTER the beep.


    As far as I can recall - other than safety/ loading/ unloading related and interpersonal conflicts - there are no penalties for anything outside the time beep to beep.


    IF the timer is following procedure - regardless of the shooter signifying ready by saying,

    "It's a hell of a thing killing a man - taking away everything he has or will ever have".


    "Shooter ready"


    "Yabba dabba doo"


    The timer "should" follow that by

    "Shooters ready - Standby"...



    There is no time or focus advantage to any of the above.

    No advantage - no penalty.

    There are penalties assessed for various rule violations occurring before the beep, for example(s):


    1) moving from the loading table to the staging location with a closed long gun with a chambered round.  


    2) Dropping a gun off the loading table.


    3) Leaving the loading area with loaded pistols before being called to the stage. 


    4) Dry firing at the loading table.


    5) Sweeping a loading table officer or other person with an empty or loaded firearm.


    You are correct that these are safety related, but they nevertheless are penalties incurred before the beep.   But the Failure to Engage section makes no mention of when infractions occur with respect to the beep.  When a shooter is on the stage or firing line, as defined,  I would assume that  all rules and conventions apply.  


    And I guess we'll just have to agree to  disagree on whether or not there is competitive advantage afforded by skipping a part of the stage instruction.  My experience has been that those who commonly skip over the start lines argue there is no advantage.  Those who follow the stage instructions believe skipping the start lines is taking unfair advantage.

    We re unlikely to settle it here.  The fact that folks so very strongly resist being required to say the lines suggests they do see an advantage of some kind.  


    For my part,  I will continue requiring shooters to comply with the stage instructions, including making a reasonable effort to say a line at least similar or equivalent to the start lines in the instruction.  But with that said, I often write stages requiring very simple one or two word starting lines.   Lots of people adlib the lines and have fun doing it.  That isn't what I was referring to in my original statement.  Somebody invented creative starting lines for some reason.  It appears those reasons are lost now on many here.  






  16. 41 minutes ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:


    No, it does NOT.


    You seem to be confusing the "Spirit of the Game" philosophy with a SOG violation...which is explicitly defined as a SHOOTING infraction related to stage instructions (e.g. committing additional procedurals after receiving the first one on a stage in an attempt to make up the time...knowing only one "P" may be assessed per stage) and failure to meet ammunition MinVel/PF standards.


    The SHB examples defining a "SPIRIT OF THE GAME" infraction are:


     A Failure to Engage or a Spirit of the Game infraction carries a 30 second penalty. The accumulation of two Failure to Engage/Spirit of the Game penalties in the same match results in a Match Disqualification Penalty. 
    - Willfully shooting a stage other than the way it was intended in order to gain a competitive advantage (Spirit of the Game). 
    Shooting ammunition that does not meet the power factor or minimum velocity. The penalty is applied for each stage a competitor is checked and their ammunition is found to not meet the power factor or minimum velocity (Spirit of the Game).
    SHB p.23
    If the average velocity of the four rounds meets or exceeds the calculated power factor of 60 AND the minimum velocity of 400 fps, the loads will be considered legal. If the loads do not meet the 60 power factor OR the minimum velocity of 400 fps, the competitor will be assessed a 30 second Spirit of the Game (SOG) penalty for the last stage completed. Any subsequent stages completed with the illegal ammunition will result in the SOG penalty being assessed for those stages. Two SOG penalties will result in a Match DQ.
    SHB p.25

    None of which mention "saying the starting line".

    Thank you for clarifying.  I was in fact mixing the two sections in memory.   Are you in agreement that the start lines are non-shooting  "stage instructions" or required "non-shooting procedures"? 


    SHB p11:  Failure to Engage
    A “failure to engage” penalty occurs when a competitor willfully or intentionally disregards the stage instructions in order to obtain a competitive advantage and is not assessed simply because a competitor “makes a mistake.” A “failure to engage” applies only to non-shooting situations such as refusing to rope a steer, throw a stick of dynamite, or otherwise make an attempt to complete any other non-shooting procedure written within the stage instructions. In such case, a 30-second “failure to engage” penalty is assessed in addition to any penalties for misses, procedurals, or minor safety infractions.

  17. 18 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said:

    If I can't remember the line I usually just say "I work for Mel Brooks" or "Are you going to pull those pistols or whistle Dixie".  Thirteen years and counting and I've never seen anyone pick up a penalty for not saying the line correctly, or for saying "Shooter Ready".  As @Cypress Sunpointed out, there's no competitive advantage to not saying the line, so I don't see how there's a penalty.

    Capt, Pls remember that the top ranks of our matches are sometimes separated by fractions of seconds.  Interrupting one person's focus to say a reasonable start line (like your first two examples) v. not requiring it of others seems to me to be a differential time factor at that level of competition; particularly in a sport where focus and rapidly remembering a course of fire on top of transitioning plans is such a big part of the competition. 


    Like you,  I never have seen a SOG penalty of any kind assessed, so there is obviously a lot of flex, as there needs to be.  But following the stage instructions seems like an easy thing to expect --otherwise, let's  just write all the stages to require "ready" as the start line.   Easy enough.  

  18. 2 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:


    How exactly does adlibbing a starting line or saying "shooter ready" create an uneven playing field?


    If the starting line is Train's coming and I change it to Train wreck coming...I should get a SOG? :angry:

    No.  Don't overplay or put words into my mouth. . 

     Any reasonable attempt at the line, or creative approximation is OK and welcome with any T.O. I've ever known.   Creative  approximations to the lines are common and  many are pretty entertaining.  


     But saying "shooter ready" at every stage in every match is not OK.  That  gives you an easier path through the matches than the other shooters who are expected to follow ALL of the stage instructions. 


    Again, I didn't write the rules, but I do associate very closely with friends who were original SASS Rules Committee members.  My pause/coach approach was their recommendation, andhwhat I've watched them repeatedly do.  It was also the advice given in response to questions aaked at my latest ROII course. 

    Again, change the rule if it's important to you, but let's require the same things of all shooters and not play favorites by allowing corner cutting.  

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  19. 31 minutes ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said:

    The starting line exists to allow the shooter to signify they are ready.

    It keeps the TO from asking "Is the shooter ready?" and bothering the shooter during their firearms staging and positioning.


    If anyone refused to start the timer because I didn't say the start line to their satisfaction...

    I would have another TO on the line pretty quickly.


    And if that occurred at a shoot I was responsible for - that person would never touch a timer at my shoots ever again.

    I agree that the line signifies when ready, but there are reasons why the rule authors  didnt simply be nonspecific or use "ready" for every stage, as in other shooting sports.  And there must have been a reason why they made failure to make an effort to say the line a major (30 sec) violation.   I wasn't there so I won't represent myself as all-knowing, but the original Rules Committee appears to have been looking for more than simply informing the TO that we are ready.  


    The T.O. (and all other responsible match officials) are expected to assure that the SASS rules are followed by everybody, so shooters have a level playing field. 


    My pausing/coaching, as I described, is a pretty inoffensive way to make the point, without any penalties.   Alternatively, as a T.O. I would need to assign a SOG violation, per the explicit rules.   If we don't like those circumstances we should change the rules as written, but apply the same standards to EVERYONE.  It's about fair play, not T.O. chest pounding or being a hard a$$.  


    No need to take offense.  If you simply say the lines properly and follow the other stage instructions, there won't be any conflicts warranting either of us leaving, and the two of us should get along just fine.  Looking forward to it!

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