Dusty Devil Dale
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On 12/6/2016 at 6:08 PM, Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 said:
There is nothing stopping a local club from offering a sub category like you propose. But in my experience of match directing even the most casual of competitors will not like placing below a adult shooter be it a man or woman who is shooting .22's when they are shooting centerfires.
Especially if knockdown targets do not have to be dropped -only hit. Fortunately, most plates can be adjusted so .22 L or LR will knock them down. They really do not lack that much in power factor, considering their velocity.
Our club does have what we call Plinkerton Category for .22L/LR.
It adds a burden for a T.O. where there are make up rounds required for knockdowns left standing. If the plates are hit by a .22 round, but not knocked down, no make up is needed. But those need to be distinguished from misses requiring make up. And the misses have to be called by the T.O., on the clock, without consulting spotters.
A lot of small brass lying around also adds time to brass picking for larger calibers.
But all of those issues already exist for Buckaroo or Buckarette shooter categories, so they are not new problems. We have seen a lot of interest in our new Plinkerton Category, and it has been one of the reasons why our club has been rapidly growing.
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It could be one or more things causing your extraction failures. I would contact Long Hunter and follow that guidance. Before making that contact, I would check the following.
First I would check the position of the carrier block with lever closed, and adjust the lifter spring tension until the bottom of the carrier block rests exactly level with the bottom of the receiver.
Second, Particularly if you have experienced any OBDs, I would check the timing of the carrier block rise to make sure it is correctly engaging the spent case while the bolt is fully withdrawn and the case is still held by the top extractor hook. It is common for OBDs to bend levers or lifters and take guns out of time.
Third, I would check the extractor nose length to be sure it can fit fully into the recess above the chamber so as to enable the hook to fully engage in front of the case rim.
Fourth, I would look at the extractor rest position to be sure it is in full contact with the bolt. Extractors are not always a drop-in part. Often the rear surface of the extractor needs to be shaped to hold the extractor spring arm tightly down. Is there any free play/wiggle in the extractor tip? If so, adjustment is needed.
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Sit on the roof and watch!
Like a dieing from a heart attack: If you worry and it never happens, you worried over nothing. If you worry and it does happen, you worried for nothing.
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On 2/17/2025 at 8:27 AM, Eyesa Horg said:
I still like... bang,open gate and insert cartridge in empty chamber, bang,bang,bang,bang,bang!
That is much faster than re-indexing.
Just fire first round, do NOT re-cock. When you open the gate, the open chamber is staring at you. Drop in a round, close the gate and fire 5, like Eyesa said. Easy-peasy!
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8 minutes ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:
IMO:
"As written"...shooter should have been allowed to perform the rifle reload as requested.
RESHOOT for
"Reshoots are not awarded for ammunition or firearm malfunctions. However, if there is a range failure (failure of props, timer failure/unrecorded time, or Range Officer interference) beyond the competitor’s control, a reshoot may be granted." (SHB p.21)
"Improper coaching that either impedes the shooters progress or results in a procedural penalty may be grounds for a reshoot." (RO1 p.9)
"A Range Officer impeded the progress of the shooter (RO Interference)" (RO1 p.10)
We agree. Thank you v. much for the prompt response ----- at 10:30 PM !!!
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Stage has six R-P targets. Direction requires a progressive round count of 21 rounds, with 1 rnd on #1, 2 rnds on #2, 3 rnds on #3, 4 rnds on #4, 5 rnds on #5 and 6 rnds on #6, fired from both rifle and revolvers in any pattern/order. Direction specifies it is a 'round count -- not a required sweep'.
One rifle reload is required and the reload must occur "after ten rifle rounds have been fired."
Shooter fires 10 rifle rounds. Forgets to do the required rifle reload. Restages empty rifle on table with lever open. Fires both revolvers. Then remembers reload and asks to reengage the empty rifle to load one round and complete the string.
Decision was 'no, he cannot'. One miss assigned for unfired round.
WTC?
Help me out. I cannot find a rule that would be violated by the shooter's request.
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Prior to retirement, I handled a lot of wild Mt. Lions over my 40+ years with the Ca. DFG (now DFW). Lions react really unpredictably to the stronger opiate-based sedation drugs that we sometimes darted them with. Some went down instantly. Some took quite a while due to the excitement of restraint, and some absolutely exploded into an unrestrainable ball of claws and teeth.
We were doing home range studies requiring radio collaring of wild lions. Dogs treed them, we darted them, then climbed the trees and pulled/wrestled them down on a catch pole, before the drugs took full effect. After a dozen or so of the explosive reactions, we stopped using the potent drugs and just gave them a light dose of veterinary Rompun. Then we could pull them down, collar them, get tooth impressions for aging, and paw print impressions for later tracking, do a general health assessment, then an observed release and recovery (you have to watch and follow them on release because the drugs cause them to overheat and crave water. They will run into a stream, still drugged, and drown).
At times, with smaller lions, we simply restrained them on a catch pole, with someone stretching out the tail, while we did our work. They usually calmed down, became parasympathetic, and gave up after a few minutes. We literally scratched their ears, eyebrows, and neck to help calm them. They seemed to enjoy it.
Formidable and deadly as lions can be, they have a lot of behavioral similarity to Felis domesticus.
I wouldn't have traded those great days in the field for anything. We handled dozens and dozens of lions. The males can have a 55 sq mile home range!
And yes, a 166 pound lion is a very large specimen, by California standards.
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9 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:
I think he would approve of this.
I doubt it. Bethoven was deaf.
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You might take a look at some of the elastic/velcro belly-band carriers. There are many on the Internet. I have two that I use often. Even in above 100 degree weather, I find them much more comfortable than a conventional belt-worn holster. I wear mine up high, between my heart and armpit. I carry the semiautomatic, (Kimber Super Carry .45acp) and two extra mags very comfortably.
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Google Jax Leather, Maders, California.
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You don't have to be smart to get a driver's license, or to make a vehicle go down the road. Today with all of the cell phones, dash computer screens, widgets added to cars to distract drivers and thoroughly dumbed-down or substance-using population, I've learned to constantly expect the unexpected.
Last year a Sheriff's deputy came around a mountain switchback on the wrong side of the center line, and ran me off the road into the brush. She at least stopped and came back. She was looking at her laptop while trying to drive.
Earlier this week I had a school bus pass me at high speed (probably 50 mph), right through a signed 25mph school zone, with small kids all over the sidewalks and crosswalks. I called the school district and reported the bus number.
You cannot ever let down your guard, these days, AND I wouldnt drive nowadays without a dash cam.
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3 hours ago, Sam Sackett said:
Let’s be even more clear. The Op asked what bullets we would recommend. Then he also asked for any load info we would recommend and listed the powders he has available. I believe the posted responses tried to answer both requests. Full strength 357 mag loads have not been discussed, as we are aware they have high velocities that are above SASS rules.Not trying to be snarky, but just answering the Ops original questions.
Sam Sackett
Fair enough, if you are sure that everybody reading this knows the velocity limits, etc. There could be new people out there who are as yet less informed and are still working at trying to assemble their equipment and ammo loading supplies. To them, the OP could be read as asking about .357mag bullets and loads. My comments were intended for those readers.
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Let's be clear.
If we are talking about 'bullets', we are not talking about 'cases' or 'loads'. Most here are aware of the following:
Any .38cal unjacketed bullets are SASS-acceptable, loaded into in either .38sp or .357mag cases. Most shooters prefer lighter bullets like 105 -130 gn, rather than deal with the greater muzzle flip of heavier projectiles. 158gn are sometimes better for heavier knockdown targets, IMO.
.357 magnum loads (or other magnum loads) are illegal for SASS competition (and their energy would very likely be a splatter/ricochet hazzard and damaging to steel plate targets), although many shooters load .38 special loads into .357 mag cases.
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If in doubt, I throw it out. Many ranges have receptacles for disposal of found or discarded live rounds.
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4 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said:
Other than assumption that the hammers were down on an expended round, how would he know for sure. Does anybody look for that on a "clean" shooter before they start ejecting empty cases at the ULT. It seems likely it was on an empty, as otherwise the shooter would have known he had 2 FTF. With the info provided, I'm going with 2 misses.
For a live revolver round to be in the active firing chamber, under the hammer, the hammer would either need to be fully cocked, deliberately decocked, or the round would need to be deliberately or accidentally indexed to that position at half-cock (also then decocked). It can't really happen 'inadvertently'.
But the two live rounds left in non-active chambers (not under the hammer) of a revolver are misses.
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Pulling crews away from the L.A. fires should make them responsible for damage or loss of life in those fires too. But better yet would be to handcuff them to brush in their own fire's path and walk away. The world really can get along pretty well without animals who commit arson.
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I strongly recommend, if you've never loaded shotsgells before, to get together with someone in the clubs that you shoot, who is experienced. Shotgun loads are usually pretty forgiving, but they can sometimes be catastrophic, splitting barrels, separating barrels, or blowing out the sides of chambers or barrels and causing injuries. Matching correct powder charge to wad column to shot charge is important, if you want consistent performance. For example, recently I saw a shooter using too high a wad column, that left a hole in the center of the crimps. In competition, a few shot ran out of the hole and jambed his side-by- side when he next tried to close it. Stuff happens, and the best way to avoid it is to know what you are doing ---and follow through doing it.
Here are a couple loads that I use in CAS competition. I use the heavier 1-1/8 oz loads for stiff knockdowns at distance, or for aerial clay birds.
12gn Alliant Extralite with 7/8 oz 7-1/2 shot, using Remington STS green or gold hulls with Claybuster Wad #CB0178-13
12 ga.
15gn Red Dot with 1-1/8oz of 7-1/2 shot in the above case with Claybuster Wad #CB2118-12
12 ga.
I'm in California and, surprisingly, I have been able to find both of the above propellants often enough to keep me shooting. But I scan local stores and online sources frequently and buy whenever I find.
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On 1/28/2017 at 4:09 PM, Butch McGie, SASS#71758 said:
And the new model has the last three serial numbers engraved on the cylinder.
The front of the cylinder has to be very clean to be able to see or read the numbers.
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On 1/17/2017 at 8:34 PM, Yul Lose said:
Be sure and remove the butt stock if you flush out the rifle and oil it heavily. A lot of the old long guns you see have weakened or ruined stocks because of the fluids that have gravitated into them when the guns were stood up. The stock comes off very easily on Pedersoli Lightnings.
An easy way to avoid the oiling of rifle and shotgun stocks is to store the guns muzzle down. It looks funny, but the oil stays on the metal parts, where you intended it to go. I usually run a swab or bore mop down the barrel after storing for any length of time. The oil can accumulate and gum up in the chamber.
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Rifle ejection issues
in SASS Wire
Posted · Edited by Dusty Devil Dale
Any CAS-familiar gunsmith can TIG weld and re-contour the lower tab for you.
And BTW, those were exceptional photos!