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Dusty Devil Dale

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  1. 12 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said:

    At least on my Stoeger, you can't get the foregrip back on if the hammers aren't cocked. I try to be careful when cleaning, not to pull the triggers. They are a bear to cock on the edge of the bench! Maybe I'm doing something wrong!:rolleyes:

    Good to know.  Thank you.  

    That leaves the snap caps as probably the best plan for guns like you described.  


    I once deliberately tried to soften Ruger Vaquero hammer springs by leaving them cocked.  It did "soften" them, but the fatigue was not the same as getting a lighter spring.  The spring response time was greatly lengthened to where I had to literally wait for the hammer to fall, and hope it would ignite primers.  

    I learned a cheap lesson.  

    But the lesson won't be so cheap on a shotgun.  I would put in snap caps and decompress the springs by firing.

  2. 23 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said:

    Most of the "Head Down" generation won't play a game that can't be played from a couch on an electronic device.

    That is unhappily pretty true.  But there are lots of  "normal" people out there still.   Our club is using our Facebook Group Page and our web site, almost daily, to find them.  We've grown by about 30% in the two past years.  A lot of our new members are under 40, physically capable, and active in the work parts of our club.  

    The electronic media do work for finding interested folks of ALL ages. 

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  3. Do you have transfer bars in place, or removed?  If transfer bars are in place, you are likely to need a slightly harder  spring, since the hammer impact must move that larger mass, and also be attenuated by two impact points enroute to the fp.  

  4. On 3/8/2024 at 3:04 PM, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

    99 times out of 100 the mountain lion would win. They are bigger and more athletic and they have more tools. Rottweilers would make a nice meal that they would jump over the fence with in their mouth. That said, a dog that stays on the attack Does have a chance!

    Two young sisters, Jolie and Sophie had gone to the fig tree on their farm to gather figs. Jolie climbed the tree and discovered a full grown mountain lion was already up the tree. She jumped down and injured her ankle, her sister tried to help her and they both ran back towards the farm house screaming. The puma couldn’t resist the easy prey and gave chase. The cat was just about on top of the girls about to make a kill, the girls had no chance.

    Except for their family dog had heard the trouble and came running. Morocco was a 90 pound Dogo Argentino, a capable dog breed used for hunting and protection. Morocho hit the lion at full speed and never let up his attack. The girls ran home and got their father Thomas. Thomas armed himself and went to the scene of the battle. He quickly found Morocho badly injured, clinging to life. Then he saw the mountain lion next to Morocho, it was dead. Thomas carried his beloved dog home and after 10 days of Intensive care, Morocho survived. He was always the hero of his family and community.


    Just WOW!

  5. 11 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:

     There are top shooters that can not get out of a bath tub quickly or sit up on a wagon etc. due to various reasons. SASS is an aging game and had to adapt for its shooters, all shooters .IMHO

    This is a good move if  SASS wants to stay alive. ADAPT and enjoy as we all age.

     So saying that the top shooters will come out on top no matter what you throw at them is wishful thinking.


    Best Wishes

    Obviously, you're correct.  Us older guys and women just can't dive under stage coaches any more, at least not without help getting back up. 

    Age matters.

    But there is a lot of room for reasonable stage variety, and within that range, the same good shooters will rise to the top nearly every time.  

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  6. 6 hours ago, Cayuse Jack, SASS #19407 said:

    All these people that wish for the good old days and yet very few people help with running the clubs...


    IE: writing stages, setup and tear down, building props 



    Come on out and help and we would be happy to shoot stages any way you like!

    Great comment and attitude! (Seriously).  Matches are what you make them.  Do the work and enjoy the outcomes.

  7. 7 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

    Ah, the good old days of yore...


    Leave home before light and get home after dark. 


    Someone has to set all that stuff up and put it away. 



    Yep.  That is a fact. 

    I just came home an hour ago  from a scheduled Club Workday to get ready for our Annual Match.  Twenty some people, young and old, had a great time together, topped off by a barbecue. 

     A handful of us retired folks are there at the range working on facilities and match set-up several days each week.

    We do the work and reap the fun. 


    The shooting is a big part of it, but not the whole story.  Our club has gone from forty some members to seventy some in two years, because it is a functional club.  The key to recruitment is to be energetic, visible and attractive to newcomers.  Variety is part of that.


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  8. 2 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:

     There are top shooters that can not get out of a bath tub quickly or sit up on a wagon etc. due to various reasons. SASS is an aging game and had to adapt for its shooters, all shooters .IMHO

    This is a good move if  SASS wants to stay alive. ADAPT and enjoy as we all age.

     So saying that the top shooters will come out on top no matter what you throw at them is wishful thinking.


    Best Wishes

    I agree in part.

    But there are ways to shoot creative, western themed stages, without the athletics. 

    For example, a wrecked buckboard, turned on its side, with close "outlaw" targets arrayed among clumps of brush, shot from tables at each end of the hijacked wagon.  Rifle target is a 16" round pendulum at 8 yds,  alternating 10 rds with adjacent  stationary targets in the brush at the same range.   

    Stage times on that kind of stage will be below 20 for fast shooters, and in the 20s-30s for most of us in the middle. The only athletics are one 10' position change and in picking brass. 


    At 74, I will attest that stages requiring athletics don't bode well.  But in the last 5 years, our club has recruited about 30-40% new growth. They are younger shooters, mostly in their 30s, who came to us after watching our matches.  They came looking for more variety than  stand-and-shoot stages with big, close targets in simple sweeps.  Most of them came to us from other shooting sports, so they are quite competent at shooting 8 -10 yd pistol and 12-18 yd rifle targets and flying clay birds w/ SG.  They also like handling more challenging shooting sequences.  They tell us that they will quickly get bored shooting stages that lack western flavor/creativity and can be won by little except hand speed, gunsmithing, and fast transitions.   They also want challenging target acquisition. 

    They left the other speed sports to come and play cowboy.  So our club looks for variety and a middle-ground that offers some of both.  We get variety by inviting different members to write monthly stages.  Our strong growth, as a club, shows that shooters enjoy that variety -- at least that is what they tell us. 


    Many of them make the drive to Bordertown every year for super fast shooting competition.  But they still come to our distinctly "Cowboy-flavor" matches, and recruit their friends in the other sports.


    Our game does not have to evolve to survive, but it does require expenditure of creativity, and  LOT of effort to provide thematic variety.  That works for our club.  Others' mileage may vary in different geography. 


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  9. The kinds of stages you described do exist.  Writing them takes much more creativity than most CAS people want to mess with, but they can be done in a way that makes stages fast, easily shootable, but also thematic and imaginative; making you feel like an old west Marshal or outlaw shooting your way out of situations.

    Our club, in central California, runs strongly western/ cowboy themed scenarios in our monthly matches and also our annual match, The Shootout at Fort Miller (coming up April 18-20).  The stages feature pendulums, T-Stars, shooting from a fast rolling ore cart enroute into an open pit mine,  clay bird throwers shot with shotgun and occasionally with rifle, and occasional longer targets. 

    These kinds of things are definitely not for everyone, but our matches are well attended every year.


    We are, in fact, one of relatively few rapidly growing clubs;  welcoming new members almost every month.  There is a fairly large number of CAS shooters who joined the sport/game for that kind of shooting.  Check us out at kingsriverregulators.com.


    Different people want to shoot different kinds of matches.  There isn't anything wrong with providing the variety that you asked about, catering to all interests.  But Stump Water said it above-- the really good shooters  come out on top, no matter what the stages offer.   

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  10. You mentioned they were slightly used.  If a prior owner buffed out marks and scratches for re-selling, it is possible that the buffing abrasives used induced color.  In the  jewelry trade, buffing and surface  coloring go hand-in- hand. 


    So you might first try acetone or spray carburetor cleaner and gentle rubbing with a clean rag.  Failing that, you might VERY CAREFULLY buff the stainless steel with ex-fine blue or soft white (NOT white diamond) abrasive compound. 


    Be careful high-speed buffing on a wheel around the front site.  When heated up, a buff can pull the sites out of their keyway.  (Ask me how I learned that).

  11. "Level playing field" is good sounding rhetoric, but in the real world of CAS, there are a lot of variables that can affect stage times.  Spotting/counting is a big one.  PM direction clarity can be another.  Prop or target position v. shooter height, or even weather and light condition variation through a day can be enough to affect final standing.   Nothing is ever truly "level" across 600+ individuals and 12 stages. 


    We play this game as it is, with all of its inherent weaknesses and variations. We all do our best to minimize inequity where we can see or anticipate it. But at times, mistakes are going to be made. 

    Stuff happens. 

    A part of playing is accepting some inherent inequity.  Every sport has it. 

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  12. AT&T finally admitted that they no longer maintain their landlines infrastructure in most areas.  For decades, they were our sole provider in the location where we live. 

    Finally last year, we switched to Starlink.  I've never looked back.  The service is uninterrupted, fast and inexpensive -- the antithesis of AT&T.  

    It took 10 months, three registered letters, multiple phone calls and a threat from a lawyer to get AT&T to believe we had quit their service after 40 years, and get them to stop billing us and threatening us with collections. 


    AT&T just grew too big and lost control of their company and innumerable foreign sub-contractors.  Every "department" is a different contractor in a different country.  

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  13. 1 minute ago, Buckshot Bear said:


    Its something that's always worried me, I can fish the salt from my front lawn and have fished hard all my life. The last 10 years I have taken all the barbs off my hooks and everything is catch and release. 

    That is the sustained yield way to do it if you are mainly just sport fishing.

    The only species I kill these days are yellowfin that are fast maturing and heavily commercially harvested, or Wahoo, Dorado or yellowtail that exist mostly ocean- or worldwide in astronomical numbers and receive comparatively light harvest pressure.   


    I long ago stopped fishing the grouper family, because of the barotrauma- swim bladder issues.  Also, a 120- pound Black Sea Bass can be 70 or 80 years old, and I have a definite  reverence for that.   

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  14. 28 minutes ago, Buckshot Bear said:



    What do you reckon the chances were of that fish surviving?

    As strong as it appeared, probably 80% or better.  Swordfish don't really fight and generate a lot of lactic acid like tuna, wahoo, or marlin do.  Swords just sulk, spread their long pectoral fins, and circle deep, with their weight being like a very heavy anchor. 


    The hook should corrode or fall out within a week or so, so the drag of line would have little effect -- and even if it took longer, the drag of just a hundred or so feet of line is less than  significant to a fish of that size.   

    I do regret leaving the line floating free in the ocean though, tangling up anything from whales to sea birds.  Fortunately 120 pound line is not very prone to tangling.  



  15. Courtesy to others is important.  Here's a story from my other favorite sport.


    I was on long-range tuna trip out of San Diego a few years ago.  We were enroute to Clipperton Island, 1050 nautical miles off of southern Mexico's Pacific Coast -- the 3-week trip of a lifetime @ $8,000+ per person. 


    We stopped the second night at Alijos Rocks to fish big yellowtail, wahoo, and to gather needed bait. 


    In the middle of the night, I sent a 6 pound live squid down 300+ feet and hooked up what acted like a huge swordfish.  4 hours later, daylight broke.  I had worn myself down, but despite continued hard short stroking, I could only gain about a quarter of the line back after the initial run.   The skipper thought it was probably a really big sword.  It did not run like a shark.  It just sulked and swam in wide, deep circles.  The rod was solidly pinned to the rail for hours. 


    An hour after sunrise, the fish was still very strong.  I was not.  The other fishermen gave much encouragement and seemed  thrilled at the prosect of seeing a probable 600# sword.  Several took a turn relieving me.  Everyone seemed patient, but  I could feel some anxiety building as time passed.  The skipper was right beside me and I thought I also sensed concern on his part.  


    The entire boat relaxed when I quietly pulled out my cutters and severed the 120# line.  I never have  looked back --absolutely the right thing to do.  We got underway and had a great trip with some 200# plus Clipperton yellowfin.  The swordfish of a lifetime is still out there for a future trip.  I never saw it.  


    Courtesy to others is important !

  16. We've never met, but I will still wish you well and fast healing.  Falls can be life changers.  I hope yours is not one of those. 

    Best of luck in healing -- and I much respect your sense of commitment to others.   

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  17. NOAA NWS is over-forecasting almost every day here in central California.  Practically every week, in this season, they predict heavy rain that seldom turns out to be very consequential.  They predict "Atmospheric rivers" that end up delivering < 1/4" of rain over 48 hours. But they do succeed in discouraging attendance at our  monthly matches, even though little rain actually falls.


    Then in the Summer they forecast 110 deg days frequently, constituting "new heat records", but our actual temperatures seldom reach that 110 deg F mark.    


    They are succeeding in creating a media and public mindset that extremes are happening everywhere, but their predictions, like those from their models for Climate Change, haven't really been very reliable. 


    I wish they could separate weather forecasting and climate predictions from political agendas, but that appears to be impossible for them.  


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  18. Regarding Camping:

    Dry camping for our events is always free at our range.  If you are travelling  and will need a place to lay over for a day or two, or longer, before or after the Fort Miller event, that is no problem.  Just let us know in advance. 

    Also, there are two Derrels Mini-Storage facilities within a few miles of our range (right  along the way) who offer free RV Dump Stations.


  19. Dillon's new 650 Ring Indexers are, sadly, not what the old ones were.  They appear to be made by 3D printing, and the material is very brittle.  My older ones were a fibrous plastic, like the one in your image.  The new ones break much more easily, even with a roller bearing cam,  so I've been buying them 4 at a time.  The warranty won't cover more than one at a time.

    There is no need to ship the press to Dillon.  They come with full installation  instructions and they have a video online.  Easy peasy!


    I found a couple after-market  aluminum indexers online, but one was a company in Slovania that I don't trust to give credit card info to. 

    The other was a CNC machined one made in Washington State.  I ordered one, but I do have some reservations that Dillon may intend the indexer to be a sacrificial easily replaceable (weak link) part to prevent other major damage.  I think there will be risks using the aluminum one, so I'm still thinking on that before I install it.  The first rounds will be VERY light- handed.


    My particular problem is that my wife shoots .32 H&R Mag in her revolvers, so it occasionally happens that with my ageing eyesight, a .32 case hides inside one of my .38s and when I deprime, the force bends the deprime pin and snaps the indexer.  

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  20. 1 hour ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

    Reading through this thread it strikes me that one person, through many contortions and convolutions, and much word salad, is advocating for no customs, no traditions, no respect for society as a whole, just anarchy and confusion, with every person doing whatever whim strikes at the 

    Your description sounds a lot like the whole Progressive "Woke" crowd.  

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