Savvy Jack

I decided to document all of this to help my brain relax! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RvoGwDc0sxeN0bqN7ml5DniG3D48Q1Y6MjWqMsX-oZ4/edit

The head [45-70?, 45 Sporting?] is claimed to be a solid one, which is presumed to mean one, folded closely as at 0, similar to the Dutch Carbine cartridge. As it does not fulfill the conditions of a solid head it is rated under Clase 1. For case-head Class ratings, check here

Back in January 1919, an article published in "Arms And The Men" about the 44-40 and 45 Colt revolvers and smokeless powder. Ashley Haines writes about his journey with, and the accuracy of both in Colt and S&W revolvers using smokeless powders of the time. Haines never calls the 45 Colt a long colt, and with that....we focus on the 44-40!!! A few items caught my attention, Shooting the 44-40 Colt and 45 Colt at 50 yards with great results Referring to the 44-40 as a rifle cartridge and why Learning that the revolvers shoot best with pistol powder rather than rifle powder Shooting such loads during and after the NOT FOR PISTOL years, unless he has a short memory! Leading when using certain pistol powders It is a long and very good article; The Big Six Shooters

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Got it!! Has been added to the box date code spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jy0pGqWPRx2HOQqufbcnEM1lv6tCWBJsCOB8vLIDOIg/edit#gid=1860800684

Oh yes it is, always has been....basically since 1895

Guys....all I want is to see photos of the 44-40 power-point box art....... no intensions on purchasing anything

All are insane....lol

Has anyone seen a new box of 44-40 power point ammo with the new box art?

Two Weeks

That box looks a little older than new....what is the stamp code on the inside of one of the end flaps?

I waited 15 "seasons" for 44-40 Winchester brass and JSP bullets, finally gave up years ago. To this day I have NEVER seen any factory 44-40 Winchester or Remington ammunition or components in any store I have ever been in.....LOL

The answer to everything use to be "in two weeks", now it is "this spring"!!!

However you obtain a 44-40 cylinder, just make sure it is cut properly to utilize .429/.430 bullets. Here is an old link to a 2014 topic about the OMV 44-40 and 44 Mag cylinder. https://www.rugerforum.com/threads/my-blackhawk-44-44-40-convertible.199186/#post-1993822

Should be Super Blackhawk and Old Model Vaquero. The Old Model has a larger frame, I believe, as compared to the New Model I have the Uberti Buckhorn 44 Mag revolver with a 44-40 conversion cylinder. As usual, only 44 Mag/44 Special for the same cylinder. The 44-40 is a separate cylinder. If you order a cylinder for it, either-or, you will have "fit-it", or get it "fitted", more than likely. 44 Mag revolver with 44-40 cylinder, loaded with custom HP loads.

GREAT REPORT! 4" at 100 yards is good. the 44-40 doesn't get much better than that.....consistency speaks volumes! Winchester Repeating Arms, December 20th, 1873 mailed news letter. Winchester's first announcement in their very own catalog was not offered until 1875. Of course the catalog was dominated by the introduction of the 73' rifle. There are no less than 62 testimonials and one 110 yard group by Doc Pardee, which should give a hint as to how many were received by their new owners by the end of 1874. Aside from Winchester's 1875 catalog, Winchester also placed adds in the 1875, August 21st, Forest & Stream publications. These adds actually took the place Remington's add, pushing Remington down to a smaller add. Included in one add are more long distance shooting targets to include Doc's 110 yard group. The 73' had already proven itself and in just a tad over a year, Winchester dropped the Forest & Stream ads (Nov 1876). 110 yards My results using smokeless rifle powder Reloder 7

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Now we need some rifle reports

Dont recall anyone saying they wanted 1MOA but...... the 44-40 is loads of fun out to 300 yards, and proper loads can replicate early 66' hit placements at 250 yards. Will be interesting to see if anyone logs and shares such data with the 45 Colt cartridge or even 44 Magnum/Special loads. Folks talk about it all the time but don't seem to like to share the target photos. The late John Kort, black powder 44-40 to 300 meters

any updates?

I plan on lowering the price on the mold and dies till sold

Wads SOLD to Blackwater pending funds!

12ga cards and wads added to the list