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1 hour ago, Shooting Bull said:
Widder’s right. You talk a lot.
As usual, I agree with half of what you said.
Widder is not right!
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13 hours ago, Shooting Bull said:
Let me give an example as to why. Stage calls for pistols to be shot at position 1 then move to position 2 to shoot shotgun. I shoot a SXS shotgun and load the shells with me left (weak) hand). On this stage I'll shoot my left pistol first. When I'm done with that I holster it then draw and fire my right pistol. As I'm firing my right pistol I'm pulling two shotgun shells with my left hand. When I'm done with my second pistol I holster it as I'm taking my first step toward position 2. As I'm moving to position 2 I have the shotgun shells up at eye level with my left hand and my right hand is reaching for my shotgun. (Reaching as you move helps you move faster. ) When I get to position 2 I grab and raise the shotgun to my shoulder as fast as possible where my shells are already waiting to be dropped into the chambers.
So, this is just my opinion obviously and is worth only what you paid me. Let's break down the mechanics of why it doesn't work for ME. Some transitions look wonderful on paper but fail to show up on the timer. To ME, that transition depends on 2 factors, and a third factor comes into play on similar transitional movements. The first is the direction and how far it is between the pistol position and the shotgun position. The second is the difference in time between your strong to weak side pistol transition and your weak to strong side pistol transition. The third factor that comes into play on similar transitions is whether it takes you longer to shoulder your shotgun or grab 2 shells and get them into position(I'll explain that one in a minute).
1st main factor- direction and distance. When I fire the last shot of my last revolver I want to MOVE! If I'm moving one or two steps, counting my reach I am picking up my rifle as my left pistol is finishing being holstered. This accomplishes a couple things that going weak side first does not. One is it gets my shotgun shouldered quicker because I'm not moving my right hand all the way from my holster to the rifle to pick it up and two is it puts my weak hand that I grab my shells with at my holster, which is within an 8" circle of my shells which in turn creates a straight line from holster to shells to shotgun.(I like my transitional hand movements to be within a 12" max circle at all times). If someone hasn't moved one step by the time they holster, they're moving too slow or are holstering before they move. A by-product benefit of strong side P first on long movement (assuming right handed and moving to the right) is it greatly diminishes the chance of breaking the 170 either actual or perceived by the over-zealous spotter because you will be holstering your left pistol while moving to the right. Holstering your right pistol while moving to your right is chancy.
2nd main factor-Difference in strong to weak P transition vs weak to strong side P transition. While making less of a difference, it does still come into the equation. My right hand to left hand transition on a good day is half a second. My left to right transition is more like a second and I run the risk of pulling too quick. That can be remedied by more practice.
3rd main factor for similar transitions. Grab shells vs shoulder shotgun. So the accepted fact for the duelist category is we should be more able to do 2 things at once. I take that a step further and decide which 2 things I should be doing simultaneously. Case in point, Rifle to Shotgun transition on a stand and deliver stage. Should the duelist lay the rifle down with the left hand or the right hand? That my friend depends on the duelist. Specifically whether it takes them longer to draw 2 shells or shoulder the shotgun. Whichever takes the longest time should be done simultaneously while the rifle is being discarded. If it takes them longer to get a good grab on their two shells with the left hand, the rifle should be discarded with the right hand(again discarded within that 12" circle of hand movement to pick up the shotgun). If it takes them longer to pick up the shotgun, they should discard the rifle left handed(again 12" circle of the shells to grab although it's close on this one) while they're picking the shotgun up. Make sense? You have 3 things to do. The 2 that overlap needs to include the one item that takes the longest time.
I'm by no means saying duelists shouldn't be able to draw the weak side first, I'm just saying your scenario doesn't work for ME. It definitely does for others.
Like Randy and Widder said. Go fast!
I sure didn't mean to type this much but I can talk transitions all day, so sorry about that.
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I like it. As a duelist right pistol first I'd shoot it 3,4,5,4,3,3,2,1,2,3
I wrote one with the same setup but different sequence. The center red target was a double tap tag. So it was 1,3,3,2,3,3,4,3,3,5. TN two step
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The body of your post is asking about shooting your guns faster, but the subject of it is shooting the category faster. They ain't really the same thing. I'll address both from MY saddle...
If you want to shoot your guns faster(as in manipulating them as fast as possible without missing) then you need to find your speed limit. When you PRACTICE, shoot your guns as fast as you safely can without having more than 2 misses in a string. Then all you have to do is shoot them that fast without those 2 misses
. Thats your speed for now. All the little bells and whistles that you can do to your guns WILL make a difference. Most of the differences will only be in your head. You'll think yourself into being faster and that's okay. Some of them make a physical difference that is not in your head, like being able to reach the hammers on your Rugers easily.
Now it's a whole other story if you're wanting your stage times to improve. The indisputable best way to get lower stage times is get faster at what you're doing when you're not pulling the trigger. There's no secret speed sauce. Cut down on the time it takes between trigger pulls. For instance when you practice it takes:
8 seconds to draw and fire all 10 rounds from the revolvers.
8 seconds to pick up and fire 10 rds from your rifle.
8 seconds to pick up and shoot 4 kd with the shotgun.
Then your par time for a stand and deliver stage is 24 seconds because you should be discarding and initiating 2 guns at the same time as a duelist. That will tell you where your transitions are. The time it takes for 10rds from both pistols from the holster plus 10 rounds from the rifle from staged position plus 4 knockdowns with shotgun from staged position. Your discards are built into the run.
Clear as mud?
Edit: Fast is fast. Slow can kiss my....grits.
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20 hours ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said:
No Shooters Books???
Randy
I guess I aint going to be able to steal your book to use your stage notes. Reckon we can figger out how to mark notes on the phone? I've got a pre-1900 era cell phone!
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2 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said:
I don’t think he’s lost that much speed. He’s probably shucking the 5th hill at the 3 second mark
When you're .3 splits that's forever. If I couldn't run a 97 faster than that, I wouldn't even run one.
-TW. One what runs a side by side
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I wouldn't worry about Widder winning any speed shotgun this year. He said he's barely getting the 5th shell in by the 3 second mark.
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53 minutes ago, Hells Comin said:
You will enjoy shooting them -
there a couple of great(Humble) dudes.
Why in the world would Widder want to shoot 'em?
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3 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:
TW's questionable reputation as having any kind of wisdom or power comes from 3 sources:
1. he reads and believes in fortune cookies that he gets at Sun Wong's Chinese restaurant.
2. he impresses little kids when teaching them how to ride a bicycle when he puts balloons or baseball cards
on the spokes to make it sound like a motorcycle.
3. he tells people who don't know him, that he is wise.
..........Widder
I don't put too much stock in the bad news fortune cookies. Only the good ones since I found out my first girlfriend was cheating on me with a Chinaman. She said his name in the bedroom and I don't put up with that mess. Wong Ho is a funny name anyway.
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3 hours ago, Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 said:
If you are so powerful, do it again next Tuesday!
Imis
57 minutes ago, Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 said:TW's claimed HooDoo is PooPoo
CB
This here is mainmost powerful hoodoo. It'll take me about 20years to work up another batch. But I'll do it. You heard it here first!
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Yep. I did that.
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6 minutes ago, Krazy Kajun said:
TW.....I still say you got the best trained chickens in Tennessee. Someone leaked a rehearsal video of you having them to perform....I've got to admit they were on count and on note....dance moves were right on time. See for yourself here.
Kajun
I sent that video to Crawdaddy this morning!
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Widder and @Krazy Kajun has peed me off. I'm turning the lights off today with my hoodoo. Y'all have that dup to thank for it.
Dont let NASA make you think this was gonna happen anyway, cause if Ihadnt spit under that red rock and skinned that chicken with the jawbone of a coyote under the light of last months fool moon, it wouldn't happen.
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1 hour ago, PowderRiverCowboy said:
Didnt you tell him not to charge the porn sites to the credit card ?
Someone told him midget porn was cheaper to watch than reg'lar porn. He thought he was saving a dollar or two.
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Widder's bunkhouse boss caught him doing something he shouldn't have been doing and won't let him get on the Wire or even write an email. He's grounded until some time Monday. He wouldn't tell me what it was he got caught doing, but getting grounded might be better than going blind.
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14 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:
Here I sit, having a little snack after having a nice day. I got up early, reloaded 200 rounds of .32 H&R and 140 rounds
of 9mm. Went and picked up some 2-cycle oil and some fresh gas for my yard equipment.
I even called to verify my Doctors appointment next week and even made my lodging reservations for the TN State.
Basically, a good day. YET, while minding my own business (which TW knows nothing about), I get
a phone call while eating a Taco to tell me I needed to view The Saloon and defend meowndangself.
Well, because nobody really listens to TW, much less believe anything he says, I'll just sit here, finish my taco,
drink a cold Pepsi, and enjoy my evening knowing that TW lives 3 1/2 hours away and glad he ain't my neighbor.
TW is antsy because he had a colonoscopy today and it nearly gave him a brain concussion.
His doctor is Dr. Smellfunkus, notable for his special technique and leaving lipstick marks on cheeks.
TW is his favorite patient.
Like I've said before........ ya just can't make this stuff up.
..........Widder
That does sound like a great day you were having. Just goes to show you, ignorance is bliss!
Before anyone asks, he found 3 polyps, a hemorrhoid, and what he believes is a hotwheel car.
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1 hour ago, Chantry said:
So you're saying he came a lot closer than you ever have?
It ain't that he did better'n me, it's the fact that he makes a big milage out of it!
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...and this time he almost passed it!
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There's a whole big bunch of questions and what ifs on this one. I'd say too many for me to voice my opinion other than to say just from reading the OP it seems like the CLUB was trying to recruit a new shooter into SASS and kudos for that. One way to run a new prospective shooter off is to smack them upside the head with a bunch of rules (excluding safety rules. Smack them with those very hard and often). If I were being a rule Nazi I would start with, pistols started out staged but did the instructions say to restage them or did they give no restaging direction? If not, the default is for the pistols to go to leather before the next firearm is fired.
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39 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:
If Hollywood ever wanted to do one of those weekly 'Real Life' shows with
never ending events, TW's place would be a hit show.
..........Widder
They came and taped for a week last year. The producers thought viewers would think everything was fake and unbelievable. Especially with all of the Widder sightings. They said it was tantamount to a Bigfoot sighting. Heck, I've even got PROOF of all of my exploits and they STILL didn't believe them.
I showed them the scab I keep in a jar in the kitchen I pulled off my butt from when I was abducted by those aliens a couple years back.
I showed them the jar I keep the tick in I pulled off of Bigfoot back in the early 2000s.
I even showed them a real-life invisible ghost I keep in another jar, and they still didn't believe me.
I told them I seen Widder shoot not 6 but 10 knockdowns in 1.3 seconds. That, they believed!
Some folks just ain't got no sense!
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On 3/12/2024 at 1:44 PM, Widder, SASS #59054 said:
Yet another TW story:
This past weekend, I was visiting TW and helping him inventory his gun collection.
I noticed inside one of his safes was a small bundle of money.... looked like $50's $100's.
AND, he also had 3 eggs sitting amongst his pistols.
I said..... "Jesse, looks like you got a few thousand bucks sitting here and 3 eggs. What
are you doing with 3 eggs in your safe"?
NOTE: Jesse is what TW's friends calll him, both of them.
Anyhow, TW says,,,,,, "since I got out of the military, every time I told a lie I would save an
egg and put it in my safe".
I replied...... "Gosh, 3 lies in 26 years ain't bad.
TW replied........ "Well, not actually. Ya see, every time I get a dozen eggs, I sell them.
Thats where all that money came from".
Ya know, a feller just can't make this stuff up.
..........Widder
I noticed you pooted a little when you seen all that money. I was scared to show you how much my bunkhouse boss had earned for fear you'd crap your britches.
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4 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:
Cousin Martha joined the Convent. She said to tell you 'HI'.
She ask if you still run out of gas every time you drive down a country road
at night.....
Sometimes I "run out of gas", sometimes I get lost or see something scary on the passenger side of the car.
Atleast I don't cut a hole in the bottom of the popcorn bucket....anymore.
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4 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:
TN State application information:
Its rumored (and I don't know where this rumor started) that the original
application for the TN State had a "Please don't put me on a Posse with.........."
space but when TW found out about it, he had them remove it because he
didn't want to be the only one on his Posse. He hates picking up his own brass.
I wish folks wouldn't start these kind of rumors. Everybody knows that TW has
good friends....... and BOTH of them would be on his Posse!
..........Widder
I sure do appreciate you taking up for me and setting the record straight! That's mighty good friending right there. Matter of fact, I appreciate it so much I won't tell anybody about your hemorrhoid surgery you're having tomorrow or about that time you got to 2nd base with your double first cousin Martha.
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11 minutes ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said:
With all due respect - until the convention is rewritten.
The RULEBOOK that every shooter receives reflects something different.
Yet another example of short sighted situational rules - people create bad rules and then double down by creating caveats to bad rules.
Then triple down by pretending that by creating caveats and conditions; they are doing anything beyond perpetuating the problem they themselves created.
And these minutes are from 2016 - it's now 2024 and the rulebook still reads as I read it.
Creeker I love ya but here it is quoted by PWB from 4 months ago. You were in that discussion too.
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WTC - reholstered pistol with misfired round
in SASS Wire
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The TO should not have stopped the shooter. The shooter should have gotten a reshoot. The only penalty that carries over is a safety. Good lord.