Brimstone Bill Willson
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I took the new Cimarron apart and cleaned out the little bit of grit inside, stoned the inside walls, and polished the wear points and now it is even smoother.
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I made my first meme:
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It is fairly smooth stock, but I did take it apart and found a fair amount of grit. I cleaned it out and did some minor polishing on the wear points and after reassembly, there was a noticeable improvement.
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If you are not dead set on the Walker, a 3rd Model Dragoon is a little more refined version of the Walker with almost all the boom. If you really need all the boom, a Walker cylinder can be fitted on a Dragoon by a machinist.
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Assuming the aluminum receiver will hold up and it will feed 38 specials, it looks like a good entry level CAS rifle. I would get the "brass" one and cerekote the metal a gloss black color.
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Does anyone know anything about the new Badlander by Heritage? I didn't know anything about it until I was browsing their website.:
https://heritagemfg.com/shotguns/badlander-series/421-badlander-18-5inch-barrel-12ga-2rds
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It is a fine shotgun. I just got done polishing the internals, shorting the stock, adding a rubber but pad, checkering the hammer, and installing a leather wrap on the lever. But really it ran great right out of the box!
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Dang it, I dropped a saw on the back of it! I guess I'll have to make the LOP shorter.
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Okay, curiosity got to me. I measured all my various shells and other than some oddball Wolf brand, Winchester AA has the shortest OAL of my 2 3/4" shells.
I also figured out how to safely unload the tube without clambering a shell so I could test live ammo. It would not load 6 AA's in the tube/ carrier
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I was able to get a total of 6 with combination of 4 AA's and 2 Kent brand 2 1/2" shells.
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5 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said:
Problem is those Dummy Rounds are shorter than a loaded AA round. While the difference seems small when you multiply it time 6 shells the difference is almost 1/2" ( 0.074 * 6 = 0.444" ) This is about the total thickness of the coils Deuce removed from the mag tube spring in his other video.
I'm betting you cannot get 6 factory AA rounds in your 87.
Another thing to consider is that loaded AA rounds are slightly shorter than a loaded STS round. The difference is about the same as the difference between your dummy rounds and the factory AAs
You might be right, that is why I included the OAL on those shells. I didn't realize those dummies where a little short. I also didn't have time to measure other shells and didn't want to load live rounds in it last night. I'll investigate it more this weekend.
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Here is this particular stock gun with these particular (maybe short?)dummy shells with 6 in the tube/ carrier.
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54 minutes ago, Tommy Reb said:
Yes, it looks like it will hold 6 with 5 in the tube and one on the carrier with the action open. But it you try to go to an action closed, hammer down on an empty chamber condition, it will not fully close. This is because when the action is closed, the round on the carrier is pushed into the magazine, and the magazine will not hold 6 rounds.
Based on measureing, it looks like on a Chiappa 87 it might be possible to load 6 by shorting the follower. Might have to shorten the mag spring as well. Only way to know for sure would be to try it. My Chiappa has the Lassiter "drop two" mod so it is not a candidate. I'm reluctant to spend the money on a Cimarron 87 not knowing for sure if it can be made to hold 6 rounds. If any of you purchase one for wild bunch use and attemp the modifications to make it a 6 rounder, I sure would appreciate hearing about it. Thanks in advance.
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I'll double check, but the one I played with will hold 6 in the tube/ carrier with the action closed and will hold 7 total if you loaded one in the chamber.
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I got to play with one this weekend as well. The one I had would hold 6 in the tube/ carrier. I agree with Duece, it seems like a great gun.
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There is a 3rd and unique manufacturer of conversion cylinders:
https://www.facebook.com/cartridgeconversion/He has worked on several of my conversion revolvers although I do not know much about his Thuer cylinders.
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No, Uberti's cartridge guns and percussion guns will not interchange parts. All of their "open top" cartridge revolvers use the a slightly larger frame than the smaller percussion frames.
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I shoot about 2/3 of the time at CAS and 1/3 of the time at IDPA style matches. I want to try some 2-gun style matches next.
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I took my 1878 Cimarron/Colt shotgun on a quail hunt. I actually took it as my backup. Well the primary autoloader decided it wanted to be a single shot, so I broke out the old hammered double. Some of my friends laughed and asked if that was a muzzle loader, but I shot it better than the other gun. I even tried a few blackpowder shells near the end of the day, I don't think I hit any birds with them, couldn't see anything after the first shot!
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I was watching InrangeTV discussing a new type of polymer/copper bullet and half way through the video they mention using these in CAS matches.
start at about 4:00
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The Franklin Arms Binary trigger and the Fostech Echo triggers for AR15's, work by firing on the pull and then firing on the release. They are legal non ATF products. Some over and under shotguns use this tech also.
This thing appears to fire two on the pull. I don't know how this thing is legal.
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Was the 66 ever chambered in 44-40?
No, it was chambered in 44 Henry. Unlike today's replicas, the old '66 had a shorter action than the '73 and could not handle the longer 44-40.
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Just a suggestion, if you make these can you offer a gray color so they look a little more historically correct? I use red for my 40S&w and black for my 9mm, but colorful old west ammo is odd looking
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That plunger looks pretty cool, nice job!
One of the most popular 'prop heavy' stages I ever did was throwing a dummy stick of dynamite with a real lit fuse down range, since it didn't 'detonate' you then pretend to shoot the 'stick' to make it explode. The stand-in target for the unexploded stick was a Firebird reactionary target stuck to a steel plate, it gave a small explosion when hit.