Smokestack SASS#87384

I hate non knockdown SG targets. You may as well just have everyone burn 4 into the back berm. All they do is cause peoples panties to get in a wad.

Wait…we have a book?

LOL, so if the spotters can’t keep up, assess a miss? Wow. It’s perfectly legal. If the Md didn’t want close splits on that target they should have written it differently or used knockdowns. Next shooter….

I bet the ‘97/‘87 guys loved that stage….

Inadequate relief of the breech face, worn bolt, worn receiver, worn or bent firing pin extension, or a poorly fitted extractor. They do not get bent from incorrect timing.

I’m sure I’ll get lots of disagreement on this, but timing issues are not what cause bolt tabs to break. There are a couple other things that should be looked at by a competent smith to avoid having the new tab go the same way as the old one.

And then get ready to ask the wire: “Where do I get a replacement sock for my Stoeger?” “Who can repair a rib that’s separating from my barrels?” “The bottom hook on my locking lug is broken/bent, is my gun fixable?” and other fun questions…. Can the Stoeger safely handle heavy loads and slugs, probably. Will it last, probably not. They just aren’t built well enough for that type of thing in my experience. With cowboy loads and with the proper tuning, that are a passable option that will have a shorter usable life than say an SKB but at their price point, they aren’t a bad option. But beat on one hard and you’ll have a nice Brazilian paperweight.

Shooting slugs out of a Stoeger isn’t really a good idea IMO. I’d just buy a slug gun rather than tear up the coach gun.

Muzzle diameter alone isn’t enough to determine what choke you have. Choke is determined by the amount of constriction below the bore diameter.

Here’s another that you may find helpful. https://youtube.com/shorts/Z_cMTYnaDPw?feature=share

I’m gonna go against the grain here a little bit and offer my own observations on the subject. It’s often thought and said that if you’re moving your feet between guns, you’re wasting time. This in my personal opinion is false. The fastest stages I’ve shot have been stages with multiple shooting positions and all required moving my feet between guns. The truth is, moving your feet costs nothing unless ALL you’re doing is moving your feet. If you stop transitioning or pause to move your feet, then you will naturally be wasting time. However if your feet move while doing a NECESSARY task, it costs nothing, and if that can put you in a more comfortable shooting position from which you can consistently get hits at greater speed, then that’s what you should be doing. My suggestion is to get a timer, go to the range and try a whole bunch of different things until you find the one that works best for you.

Although I can’t make it this year, that match is definitely on my bucket list. Ain’t nothin’ wrong with a little ACTION shooting.

Stage conventions say that if a target falls you should shoot where it was. They used to say, “or engage an alternate target” but it seems that language was removed. However, the stage instructions which override stage conventions pretty clearly say that once all targets are downed, the rest of the rounds should go on the dump target. FWIW, this is why IMO plate racks can be a big pain in a match unless very specific instructions are given.

According to what is written, the shooter will shoot at the plate rack until all the plates are down, then they will place any additional rounds on the dump target.

ABSOLUTELY, yes.

One hell of a shooter and a great guy to hang out and to shoot with. We missed ya this weekend, man.

There are a lot of people who didn’t know they were creating that problem, but the physics haven’t changed.

There is no SASS rule against them. However most clubs will frown upon that and either not allow it, or make you set up right against a berm on every stage and it will be a hassle. Best to just go with the flow on this one.

The carrier performs functions beyond just lifting and supporting the round while it’s fed into the chamber. When run quickly the carrier also must stop the round from flying out the top of the gun, and when ran fast it the round will be in contact more with the upper surfaces within the carrier than it will with the lower ones as it’s being pushed forward. When those corners are taken away, the round will have a tendency to tilt nose-up and hit the top of the chamber while feeding. This hiccup can be difficult to find and or diagnose as it happens and then corrects itself fairly quickly.

If your goal in tuning a rifle is to creat a smoother, more reliable gun that feeds better, (and this should be the goal) then the bolt is the part that you want to modify. If your goal is to as cheaply and easily as possible, keep the parts from banging together, by all means, hack away at the critical dimensions of the carrier that affect feeding. And just because something has been done wrong for 25 years, isn’t a good justification for continuing the practice IMO.

Cutting the carrier is NOT the correct way to make clearance. The bolt needs to be modified to avoid collision with the new timing.

Should SASS publish the clubs/TG names and how each voted on the items that go out to them for voting? Doing this would add some accountability and I believe would increase participation among the TGs. What are your thoughts?

Yeah. Just like the Duelist category was done away with since we can shoot duelist in any category. LOL. The sky isn’t falling.

In a one on one choose your player situation, no…women are not always slower. If more of a statistical answer is what you’re looking for, just take the top 16 men and the top 16 ladies from any match and add up their totals.