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Captain Bill Burt

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  1. 1 hour ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said:

    Another angle to kick around.

    The pistol is suppose to be shot with the left hand.  It malfunctions and during the clearance process, is now being gripped by the right hand.  You are able to clear the malfunction and get the pistol cocked and your left hand is still touching the pistol.  Without losing contact with the pistol with the left hand, simply take over the grip from the right hand.  The argument is that the left hand has not left contact with the pistol since being cocked, therefore it has not been transferred.

    I'm afraid not.  PWB already covered that. If it was being gripped by the right hand, is subsequently cocked, and ends up being gripped by the left hand, that is a transfer and will incur the penalty.

  2. 32 minutes ago, John Kloehr said:

    I think I agree with earlier replies:


    - Transfer cocked pistol after clearing fault, get an SDQ.


    - Better to fire round 6 from right hand, take the procedural.


    I think there are two other options available to the shooter:


    Declare "bad gun" and set it down. Take the misses (and the time to last shot fired). This was an option at the initial failure and since the gun has not yet been fired after clearing the fault, it is still an available option.


    Unsure on one more option... Decock the revolver as the last step of clearing the malfunction, transfer it to the left hand, continue with string. I would have to read the rules again to see if a revolver can be transferred with hammer down on a live round.

    So the shooter has 'cleared the fault' but is going to declare a malfunction to avoid a penalty?  Hmmm.


    SHB page 23 under SDQ

    "A cocked revolver leaving a shooter's hand"

    "De-cocking a revolver.....without positive direction to do so from CRO/TO"

    SHB page 15

    Revolvers safe to leave the shooter's hand in the following conditions only:

    Hammer fully down on an empty chamber, Hammer fully down on an expended round.



  3. 4 hours ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said:

    In the Super Stage that Capt. Bill Burt shot, the shooter had 10 more shots than there were targets.  Misses didn't count as long as the targets all went down.  Any left over rounds were shot on a bonus target for a 1 second bonus each.  Spotters only had to count the bonus hits.  You could get up to a 10 second bonus if you shot it perfectly.

    I think I got 8.

  4. 2 minutes ago, Chickamauga Slim said:


    We'll let him down as easily as possible when he finds out it was named for Tennessee Tombstone. Maybe even offer him a bowl of 'nanner puddin' to console his damaged feelings.

    It'll probably take more than a bowl.  Maybe if you added some whisky to the bowl, that might do it.

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  5. 1 minute ago, Krazy Kajun said:

    Capt. Bill, it took me longer to poll the spotters and tally up the bonuses than it took you to shoot it!



    Yep, all those bonuses took some counting!  Despite that Risin Outlaw still edged me and took first place for that stage.

  6. Almost ten years ago when I was first getting started in SASS I was working as a teacher and had a newborn, a three year old and a five year old. Times were tough. SASS was a major expense for me.

    I figured out how to have a very targeted search run every night and send me an email list of all 12 gauge SKB 100’s, 150’s, 200’s and 280’s for sale on Gunbroker.  I occasionally bought and resold them making anywhere from $200 to $500 each time. 

    I always followed the law, but there were cowboys (not buyers) who took issue with what I was doing. I never felt bad about it as I was asking the going price and very upfront about condition.


    Times change, I’m no longer a teacher. That search still runs every night, though there are fewer SKB’s offered and GB sellers have mostly wised up to CAS demand for SKB’s.


    Now I notify a buddy who builds SKB’s for CAS when the rare good deal comes in. 


    Obviously I think buying and reselling for a profit is fine, though I agree that exploiting the kindness or charity of a fellow cowboy for profit is not acceptable.

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  7. 5 hours ago, Diamond Jake said:

    I don't think I'll be able to attend any monthly matches between now and then.  Part of clearing my calendar for the State Championship was moving stuff to my earlier weekends.  My wife, bless her heart, even rescheduled her knee replacement surgery so I can attend.

    That’s thoughtful! She’s gotta be a keeper!

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  8. Just got an email confirming Papa Dave received my app! 

    Rather than think of it as 25 days, I prefer to think of it as 4 matches away. South River Shootists, Ocoee Rangers, Greenville Gunfighters, River Bend Rough Riders....then it’s on!

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  9. 7 hours ago, Revolvgang said:
    But not wrong either. More like how protectionist rules are designed.

    Part of the beauty of SASS, you get to run it the way you want in Germany and we get to run it the way we want here. 

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  10. 1 minute ago, Jefro, SASS#69420 said:

    Yep, we use if you can touch the table yer there;)

    I like that.  I've shot at places that do it similarly to Creeker's method.  I like that as well.  I've also shot places that give you something to carry and place on whichever prop you're supposed to be standing behind, that works as well. 


    10 hours ago, The Outlaw Travis James said:

    I shoot at a club in Florida where the MD is very anal about being completely behind whatever prop, fence, or table the shooting position is.  He goes so far as to drag lines in the sand with his boots.  BUT, he always reiterates that your feet MUST BE INSIDE THE LINES or it will be called a P.  Although, I have never seen it called there.

    Sounds like a club to avoid.

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  12. 12 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:


    I think some of you are mixing 'resident' with 'citizen'.    The rule/guideline posted by Branchwater Jake references 'Citizen',  

    in relationship to Winter Range,  not just a 'Resident'.

    Big difference.




    Good point.  I'm not sure you can be a 'citizen' of a state, so the appropriate term there is probably resident.  For the National, citizen is appropriate. 

  13. 31 minutes ago, Kingsley said:

    After this next great run of matches. Memphis, CAC, wartrace, SER, SC state and Fl state. We will be back on the track. So end of Nov. first course will be Atlanta. I’ll keep you posted. Its a blast. :D

    I would love to do it.  Particularly if you'll teach me how to.  I'm a decent driver, good reflexes and a natural feel for where the car is and what it can do, but I have zero training, and not much track experience.   Lotsa drag racing back in the 70s.  The SS 1LE is the first car I've had that I felt was capable of more in the corners than I was capable of, and I've had some pretty fast cars. 


    Are you bringing the M4 to Wartrace?  I would love to check it out!  I'll be in the SS.


    It's going to be a fun match!  I got lucky and got a place about 7 minutes from the range. 

  14. 35 minutes ago, Kingsley said:

    Car is nowhere near stock. Different suspension, huge after market turbos, cams, inter-cooler.  Was built between Dinan and AFK in calif. Curves is where this car lives. We are up at road Atlanta several times a year and monthly at Roebling. 

    It's pretty hard to beat a 1LE through the curves. 


    Of course you know what they say, how fast do you want to go = how much money do you want to spend.  The 1LE costs about half what a stock M4 does.


    I've never done anything except oval track and 1/4 mile (not counting street runs).


    We should find out.  I would need to take my street tires off and put track tires back on.  Other than that she's ready to track.



  15. 11 minutes ago, Kingsley said:

    not sure what your chevy has bill. But my 700hp track car would love a run with you at road Atlanta 


    cardboard cowboy



    311C0179-3843-428A-B91E-6C3C57131C2F.jpegIf they were both stock it would be close enough to be down to the driver.   MotorTrend puts the SS 1LE as a tenth faster to 60 and a tenth faster through the quarter mile.  Pretty much noise when it comes to real world driving, not a significant difference.


    Having said that, if you have 700 hp, then your car isn't stock.  If you can get that power on the road I would have a hard time keeping up on a straightaway.  However, if there are curves involved, the 1LE does significantly better than the M4, more lateral Gs and a lot better braking. 


    We should do it!

  16. It seems consistent to me.  You have to be a resident of a state to win that state's championship.  You have to be a resident of a region to win that regional championship.  You have to be a resident of a nation to win that nation's championship, and if it ever becomes an issue, you probably have to be a resident of this world in order to win a world championship.  No Alpha Centurions allowed to win. 

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