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Captain Bill Burt

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  1. 11 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said:

    Now come on Tom...you not taking credit for your actions?????


    See ya in Georgia!!!!

    Well, you're accusing me of wearing tweed, I guess it's possible.  I'm not sure what tweed looks like, but I kinda think I've probably never owned any.  


    I don't know your wife.  Pretty sure I've never attacked her. Not sure why I would want to, if she's stayed married to you for long she must be a saint!  Was she injured during this attack?  Did I call her bad names at least?


    You're coming to Georgia just to see little ole me!  Should I be flattered?  Will it be fun?


    Sober up, tomorrow you'll feel much better.

  2. 14 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said:

    At least I don't attack folk's wives...You'll meet me...then you'll know me.

    WTH are you babbling about? Tweed, attacking wives? Have you been drinking?

    LOL, ‘I’ll meet you then I’ll know you.’


    Sounds like a starting line for a stage.  Will I have to wait for the beep?


  3. Just now, Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 said:

    Would you prefer a stick or spoon?

    He probably uses his teeth!  Maybe a big Rambo knife and a rag around his head?

  4. 32 minutes ago, Dusty Devil Dale said:

    You sound like a good dad!  I bet your kids are delightful to be around-- except possibly when they beat you and let you know it.  I agree with everything you stated.  

    His children are delightful.  He's used to getting beat by them, so that part doesn't impact him, I don't think.

    Regarding your previous post about difficult matches.  Generally speaking there are two schools of thought among Match Directors, one being they're in the entertainment business and their job is to try to ensure people have a good time, the other is that they're responsible for putting on matches that challenge the shooter and help them develop their skills.  In my experience the majority of the practice top shooters put in happens at times other than monthly matches.  As long as you're giving variety in target sizes distances and spacing I wouldn't view the MDs job as helping to develop shooters, I suggest focusing on putting on a fun match for the majority.

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  5. I like a few stages that can be run at speed, a few that have some type of challenge, whether it's a flyer, moving targets, farther distances, that sort of thing.  I like plenty of shotgun targets.  I like movement.  Interesting things to do before the beep can be fun, stab a dummy, throw a tomahawk, that sort of thing. I like straightforward progressions, none of that firing order of a chevy small block crap.  Challenging progressions are fun, like ALL4114ALL, but not random stuff.  I like choices, which side to start, which gun to start with. 


    I really like stages where you're told the order targets have to be engaged in and that's it, or you're given a round count stage and it's left up to you determine the 'best' way to shoot it.


    Then of course there's how the match was run, food, awards, etc. That could be a long list. 

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  6. 1 hour ago, Tennessee williams said:

    As stated above, the quicker stage times you run the bigger percentage penalty you incur for a miss. If you're shooting 50 second stages, you're looking at half the penalty of a 25 second stage shooter. Maybe we should penalize the slower shooters with 10 seconds. You may be on to something.

    I don't know of ANY shooting sport that does not take athletic ability into the equation to some degree. Even long range shooting depends on the human body ability. Breathe control, trigger control, balance, patience, etc.

    SASS is a speed sport. If not, we wouldn't be penalized with a time penalty for misses or boo-boos. We would be scored for cumulative hits.

    I see nothing wrong with this, although most of the time a match DOES boil down to the fastest clean shooter. 

    I agree.


    Up at the top of the list the difference between winning and not can often come down to very small differences, so a 5 second penalty is huge. 


    OTH, if you're on the fringe of a speed group it may not matter much.  I lurk just below the top shooters around here.  They'll have to miss two or three times while I shoot clean and fast before I get into contention with them.  On the flip side of that, if I'm not in contention for a top spot, I might be able to miss 3 or 4 times without it impacting my overall or category finish. 


    Last Saturday I could have missed once and held my spot, but if I had missed twice I would have dropped down one place.



  7. 28 minutes ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said:

    I don't think 5 second miss is trivializing missing a shot. We just finished the 12 stage Tennessee State Championship this weekend and I had 1 miss each day. 1 miss on the first day amounted to a 17.86% penalty and 1 miss on the second day amounted to a 23.1 % penalty. Maybe I'm mistaken but I don't consider that trivial.


    As for Clean Shooters this was a 12 stage match with 186 shooters and 14.5% shot it Clean.




    I agree!  Another way to think about miss penalties, if it takes you 16 seconds to shoot the stage and you miss once, you’ve incurred a 30% penalty for that stage. 

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  8. 32 minutes ago, Dusty Devil Dale said:

    That attitude seems particularly applicable in routine practice matches.  Challenging practice is usually a good thing.  

    I'm considering including a couple fairly complex sweeps, just for the fun/practice of shooting them, and making those two stages "No P" stages. 

    All shooters would have to do is show a reasonable effort to shoot the stage correctly (or S. O.G.) and not miss any targets.   Has anybody ever done that successfully? Gamers would be an obvious downside, but in practice does that really matter? 


    The two Sweeps are a 2132435465 sweep on six targets which are set alternating high - low, which looks simple enough until you consider the pistol transition (gunfighters get an obvious advantage), 

    and the second sweep is a five target circle where the course of fire is shooter's choice, but no double taps and no two adjacent targets can be shot consecutively (like tightening lug nuts).  

    Both seem fun, but with pistol transfer, they would be classed as difficult.   With "no P" designation, the gunfighter advantage is minimized.  







    My thoughts? Honestly? I would rather go fishing than shoot stages like that.

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  9. On 10/6/2019 at 9:41 PM, Marshal TKD, Sass # 36984L said:

    So come off the range from shooting, you are tired and feet need some relief. Well we will have a massage lady at the range to help you out with those tired feet. 

    So yes you can get a foot massage at the end of your shooting. What a happy ending.

    I see what you did there.  


    Looks like we're two weeks out!  

  10. 55 minutes ago, Shooting Bull said:


    I would suggest using one OR the other. As Yul Lose correctly pointed out, there’s a definite learning curve when switching from one to the other. 


    If you’ve ever driven a standard transmission car for years and then switched to automatic, how long did it take for your left foot to stop reaching for the clutch pedal when you first hop in? 

    That’s why I would start with both. If I forgot and went to my belt they would be there.


    I do the left foot thing constantly when switching between my wife’s Accord and my Camaro!

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  11. Having the shells up closer to your loading hand is certainly helpful.  I've seen some pretty well built bandoleers that were very rigid without being fastened down in any way.  I'm thinking getting one of those and using it in addition to my current shotgun belt might be fun and fast. 

  12. 5 minutes ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:


    What kind of "mistakes"?

    REF: SHB p.19 re "COACHING"

    I had a shooter not too long ago lose track of how many pistol rounds he had fired.  As he click clicked away I told him 'you're done, rifle'. He promptly holstered a cocked pistol, picked up a DQ and got pretty mad with me. 

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  13. 4 minutes ago, Totes Magoats said:


    T-Bone said it will be a day or two.  I can post a link here as soon as I see them.



    Thanks.  It would be nice to see how some of my pards did.   Sharyn and I hated to miss it this year and hope to be able to get back there next year.

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