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Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667

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  1. I've seen a couple of the Remington R1s in Wild Bunch. They are legal for Modern and Traditional categories (the latter requiring blacking out the white dots on the sights).
  2. If you have a Sportsmans Warehouse Store in your area, pick up some Black MZ (a black powder substitute). It’s under $10/pound. Its hard to to save money loading shotshells for clayshooting but as you have seen, black powder factory shotshells are very dear.
  3. Bea and Rolan stand out even among the many friendly and helpful people in this sport.
  4. If they did, it still would not be SASS legal since it’s not a “lever action shotgun...of the period”.
  5. When my wife started shooting with me she used a 1897 pump. She thought it kicked less than a double using the same ammunition. Another plus is that I was able to order an aftermarket buttstock for the ‘97, cut it way down to fit her and installed a Limbsaver recoil pad. My wife had virtually no experience shooting a shotgun. I agree that proper fit is critical; she had trouble trying to shoot it with the original buttstock but once it fit her it was a different story. In her next match she dropped every shotgun KD with one shot. The shotgun went from something she dreaded to something she liked to shoot.
  6. Uberti Single Action revolvers had that hammer block for years. You can see the little part on the hammer face below the firing pin.
  7. Either is fine so it comes down to personal preference. There is only one category in which the Stoeger would not be allowed. The external hammers add a step to the process of reloading the gun but with practice some folks can shoot a hammer double pretty quickly. Go to a local match and check out the game.
  8. One of Skeeter Skelton’s stories described a manly “abrazo” between friends. Based on that precedent I would be OK with a hug from another gentleman. Just don’t be smelling my hair.
  9. There are lots of bullet vendors. I choose to buy from those who support the sport by sponsoring matches, taking the time, effort and expense to be a vendor at matches. As an added plus, those folks tend to carry the type of bullets, powder, etc. that works well for our sport. I’ve seen three or so of those vendors named in this thread.
  10. Just for fun I compared bullet cost; from my vendor the price difference between .38 and .45 varied between a low of $1.60 per 100 to a high of $3.60 depending on bullet weights compared. Your estimated $3.00 spread is in that range. Primer price is the same and the difference in charge weight for a fast burning smokeless powder is negligible. If you shoot black powder with its greater charge weights and higher cost, there would be some difference that I have not calculated. The difference in the cost of brass, spread out over the life of the cases, is hardly worth counting. Shoot the ammo that you like.
  11. I suggest finding some data for a cowboy action load using these components and loading some test cartridges. I’d roll crimp in the crimp groove assuming the bullets have a crimp groove. You can even start by loading a handful of dummy rounds without primer and powder. Go to the range and see if your rifle will feed them. If not you have to change something. Is so shoot them and confirm that you are getting the desired velocity. If your rifle won’t feed this case/bullet combo you can use it in your revolvers, assuming they are .357s. Most folks use a lighter bullet than the 158s; I usually use a 105 but the 158 grain bullet has its advantages. My fixed sight revolvers shoot pretty much to point of aim with 158s; the popular light bullets tend to print low. If you encounter a tough pistol/rifle knockdown target the 158 gives you a little more oomph. Last, I like the 158s when loading Frontier Cartridge ammo because the longer bullet takes up more room in the case so I use less of that expensive powder. You can make a suitable load with what you have. If you later feel the need to work up an “ideal” load, you can. I am able to achieve the same mediocre score with either one. I’m having fun doing it.
  12. There are probably dozens of suitable powders. The Trail Boss is fine. There are also powders that are similar to Clays including Clay Dot, Promo, Red Dot, and Bullseye.
  13. Actually he shot at least one match as Frontiersman without anyone making a comment on shooting style.
  14. We had a new shooter who wanted to shoot his capguns using a support hand. He was surprised to learn that he could shoot in an age based category with black powder.
  15. I had no legal firearms. In fact, I had never fired a single action revolver, a lever action rifle or a side by side shotgun prior to my first cowboy match that I shot (clean, ahem) with borrowed guns.
  16. Null, I posted a WTC on the Wild Bunch forum while back after we had a similar situation in a WBAS match. There we had static rifle targets and knockdown targets for the shotgun. A new shooter mistakenly engaged and dropped the KDs with the rifle (each shot being a miss under the flowchart) so that those targets were not available when the shooter transitioned to the shotgun. On the one hand, "shoot where it was" usually comes into play when the target is absent by no fault of the shooter. Here the shooter caused the problem by engaging the wrong targets. On the other hand, not allowing the competitor to "shoot where they were" results in two misses being assessed for each shot. The answer to my post was against penalizing the shooter twice.
  17. I will toss in a couple of comments. Call Georgia Arms and ask about cowboy ammo even if the website says it is out of stock. Perhaps you can be first in line for the next run. They attend many of the Gun shows in this area and I've seen cowboy ammo at the shows when their website said they were out. Their ammo has worked well for new shooters here. It is great to find a reloading mentor to show you the ropes. Finding someone who loads the type of ammo you plan to make (such as a fellow cowboy shooter) is great. I would not worry much whether that person has the same type of press.
  18. One of the new firearms announced at the 2017 SHOT Show is replica of the Colt SAA. You can see it on Gunblast.com's video of "Industry Day at the range". Standard Manufacturing says they are making them in Connecticut; another YouTube host reported that this will be a close replica of the Colt so no transfer bar. If anyone has or gets more info about these revolvers please post a reply.
  19. My understanding is that the 150 power factor and the requirement of the .40-plus caliber rifle (the 1911s have to be .45 ACP and the shotgun must be 12 gauge) was something of a reaction to the tendency in cowboy action shooting towards small calibers and light loads. Wild Bunch targets tend to be more challenging (in terms of size and distance) than CAS targets. When my local club offered WBAS matches, we allowed any SASS-legal main match rifle because, as you said, many of our shooters were cowboy shooters who owned .38 caliber rifles. This seems to be the approach at most local clubs. I enjoy WBAS but I was reluctant to buy another expensive rifle for a game that only got to shoot four or five times a year. My club's WBAS match director thought that the big bore rifle requirement was a barrier to growing the sport. His opinion was to leave the 150 power factor but let shooters use any caliber they wanted. My local club eventually decided to replace Wild Bunch with modern Three Gun. There's lots of demand for those matches; they usually limit the match to about 70 shooters and when they open the online registration it fills up in a matter of minutes.
  20. Welcome. I will add a word of caution about ordering clothing online. The sizing of Old West clothing, especially the pants, may be very different than modern clothing. For example, I usually wear a 34" waist size. In one brand of Old West pants, I have to buy a 36. In another brand I have to go up to a 38! I am fortunate to have found two stores within a reasonable drive where I could try on clothing so I have not had to deal with ordering clothes and returning them. I agree with the comments about visiting "vendor row" at state and regional matches; that's another good way to shop. Keeping it simple at first is good, too. I found some good shirts at a thrift store, and a New but reasonably priced Henley shirt at a local workwear store.
  21. I believe both of the revolvers are Uberti 1873s with different features. Pretty sure the Runnin' Irons all have low wide hammers which would not match your USFA's hammer.
  22. I agree with Jefro that the Lee Classic Turret (the classic has an iron base as opposed to the other Lee Turret press that I think they now call the "value" press) is an excellent press for a beginner, given the volume of ammo you need to crank out for cowboy action. When I started shooting cowboy seven years ago I used my single stage press which required lots of time at the bench. The LCT is about as simple to use as a single stage but the timesaver is that you are not picking up and putting down the same case four or five times to produce a loaded cartridge. The LCT is often paired with one of Lee's auto Disc powder measures. I recommend that you get the Lee Auto Drum Measure instead. Not much if any price difference. Kemph will have them. If you are shooting .38 Special you will save money over factory ammo. The cases last a long time and you can often find once fired range brass at a good price. Ask other cowboy shooters for a good cast bullet source. If you buy locally you will save on shipping. If you want to order some I recommend www.clarksbullets.com. You won't realize as much savings loading shotshells, in part because of the high cost of lead shot. I'd recommend buying game/target factory shells by the "flat" (ten boxes). I can catch sales and get factory shells for clayshooting in the $60 range which is $6.00 per box of 25, which will usually get you through a local match.
  23. I bought some Titegroup specifically to load 9mm (plus Cabelas had it at a very attractive price) but the container is still sealed. I have found Titegroup to make for a "snappier" load in cowboy ammo. I have had good luck with Red Dot and Universal in 9mm but I agree with Widder that Clean Shot is an excellent choice. It meters well and performance has been very consistent. I like the 124 grain bullets in 9mm, either cast bullets from Clark's Bullets or Berry's plated when I can find the latter on sale. Scarlett carries Clean Shot and the other Shooters Wirld powders but I have seen them on the shelf at a local store as well.
  24. Lots of good info already but I'd recommend not buying anything else. Reach out to the match director of your local club and let them know you are interested. Some clubs have clinics or practice days to orient new shooters. If not, I'd recommend attending a match or two to observe and ask questions. If you decide this is the game for you, come with whatever gear you already have (remember, no buying yet). Bring a few boxes of lead bullet ammo and a box or two of 12 gauge birdshot shells. I had observed part of a match and decided I wanted to join in. The match director said "don't buy anything" so I showed up for my first match with ammo. No coboy guns, no leather, no cowboy clothes. The "don't buy anything" advice saved me money. I thought I knew which rifle to buy but I tried that brand of rifle at the match and didn't like it. I was able to make an informed choice because I was able to try several different rifles, revolvers and shotguns at my first match. Just about every knew shooter assumes that they need to buy revolvers and a rifle in .45 Colt. Some of those folks end up selling and buying .38s down the road because the ammo is cheaper (and we shoot a lot of ammo) and the .38s are easier to shoot fast. If you end up choosing the .45, great, but again make that choice as an informed choice. Oh, and welcome aboard!
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