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Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667

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  1. I’ve never worried much about carbon rings in the front of the cylinder of a revolver. A couple of years ago I bought some Ballistol to use in cleaning my (stainless) New Vaqueros after shooting cartridges charged with Goex. I pulled the cylinders, sprayed the revolvers with Ballistol, let them sit a few hours, then wiped them down and swabbed the bores and chambers. I was amazed to find that the Ballistol had dissolved the long accumulated carbon rings. You might give Ballistol a try.
  2. It’s also a help to new shooters that WBAS rules allow magazines and ammo to be staged.
  3. This right here. Most new Wild Bunch shooters come from cowboy ranks. We never reholster the 1911 on the clock in WBAS so any legal holster that will retain the pistol until you draw it is fine.
  4. The process for rulemaking and rule interpretation in WBAS involves fewer people than does CAS. Changes are posted on the Wild Bunch Wire Forum so the current Handbook does not contain all of the rules that are in effect.
  5. One method is to mark the exterior of the cylinder (a dot of paint or whiteout) on both sides of the “designated” empty chamber. One shooter stuffed a yellow foam plug into the chamber. When the gun is loaded the marks should flank the top strap.
  6. Classic does not require a .45 but a minimum forty caliber. An 1887 lever action shotgun is also a legal shotgun in Classic.
  7. The .38 Special is the most popular chambering. It’s the cheapest to feed and easier to shoot rapidly. There are only two “exclusions”, the first being the Classic category but that’s not a highly populated category. If you are fortunate enough to have a club in your area that offers Wild Bunch matches (Wild Bunch is not a cowboy action category but a separate shooting sport), that game requires a rifle of minimum forty caliber. The brass receiver of the 1866 is plenty durable. It is heavier than the 1873’s steel receiver. As others said it has a different amount of drop in the stock. At the distances typical in SASS matches, there is little advantage to a longer barrel. The 18-19-20” barrels are the most popular.
  8. If you really want sticker shock price some factory black powder ammo. There are some sources for good smokeless cowboy ammunition these days if you don’t “roll your own”. Bullets by Scarlett’s “Cowboy Cartridges” for example.
  9. Another option is to purchase the revolvers from a gunsmith with the action work already done. Longhunter Shooting Supply is one such source. The New Vaqueros are not bad out of the box. Most rifles need action work. The shotguns do for sure. Not as necessary with revolvers.
  10. The scene from “Smokey and the Bandit” comes to mind where Burt says “I’ll need a car to run interference.” [rich guy’s flunky counts out a stack of bills]. ”A fast car.” [flunky counts out more bills into Burt’s hand] ”Faster than that.”
  11. The Hodgdon Data Center shows a recipe for a 125 grain lead bullet: http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/pistol
  12. There are lots of good clubs in Florida. They are organized by state on the main SASS website. You can download the Handbook but attending matches and talking to folks is a great way to learn the game.
  13. “Shooter’s Choice” strikes again!
  14. I’ve not seen the ATI shotgun at a match. Occasionally new shotguns come on the scene that look like they might be suitable; some work out and some don’t. There are few if any doubles that are ready to go out of the box. Most need a little work. There is only one category, Classic Cowboy, in which a double must have external hammers and they must be real hammers, not external cocking levers. I think I recall reading that the ATI is not legal for Classic. If you use a shotgun with external hammers or cocking levers in a different category you have added a step to every shotgun reload. Not to say that some folks can run a “hammer double” quickly or that some folks just like the looks of a hammer double. The decocking lever adds nothing for a SASS shooter. Decocking a firearm on the firing line will buy you a Stage Disqualification.
  15. Tyrel gave the best advice. Come to a match. Handle some of the guns that people actually use in this game. You will learn more in one match than in years of online research.
  16. Just to be clear, the chambers are not recessed; there is a lip on the rear edge of the cylinder that “hides” the case rims from view. I’ve heard of people having the ridge milled off, but another approach is to mark the cylinder is such a way that the position of the empty chamber can be verified once the revolver is loaded.
  17. I just made up some Wild Bunch ammo using Scarlett’s 230 grain coated bullets. I used 4.0 grains of WST which was the starting load in one of my manuals. It averaged 759 fps from my pistol which more than makes power factor. A fellow WB shooter who does not reload found some factory ammo with coated round nosed lead bullets. He had issues with that ammo. It’s really hard to know until you try a particular load in a particular pistol.
  18. New folks are often confused by the category descriptions in the Handbook; you are not the first to be confused by the Classic Cowboy and Cowboy categories. You referred to Classic Cowboy as an “event”; some readers get the impression that the shooters are somehow segregated into categories when shooting so let’s clarify that point. At a match, all participants shoot the same “stages”. The same targets, same instructions. Depending on the number of shooters at the match and other factors, you will probably be assigned to a group that we call a “posse”. You will stay with that group for the entire match. Shooters in the posse take turns shooting until everyone has completed the stage, then the posse moves to the next stage. A typical stage has ten pistol shots, ten rifle, and four shotgun. The stage instructions provide the details about gun order, shooting positions and target sequence. Most clubs’ monthly matches consist of six stages. The posse will usually have shooters from different categories; we are all mixed up but the results can be sorted by category so that we will have, say, a first place Gunfighter, second place Gunfighter, etc. There are also awards or recognition of the overall top shooters. I hope this is helpful to new folks who are trying to imagine how categories work. One more point. Some shooting sports have “classes” of shooters, some based on equipment but others on a shooter’s skill level. In cowboy we have “categories”; the shooter selects his or her category for the match. As long as the shooter meets the requirements of the category, he or she is eligible. You don’t have to “qualify” by scoring.
  19. The pistol requirements for the Traditional category are more restrictive than those for the Modern category. Adjustable sights are not allowed in Traditional but allowed in Modern. That said, a Traditional pistol need not have teeny tiny sights like those on a WWI-WWII issue pistol. The Remington R1 and Springfield Milspec are examples of Traditional-legal pistols with visible sights. Also a pistol legal for Traditional is fine in Modern, too.
  20. State laws vary but federal law states that “face to face” transfers (between non-FFL holders) are legal only between residents of the same state. Long guns or handguns.
  21. Look here for instructions: http://ns.hodgdon.com/loading.html#
  22. I will look for one among the vendors at the SC State Match this weekend.
  23. Three Cut did the action work and a mechanical reset conversion on my SKB 100.
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