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Thank you for saving that dog Dave.
My wife and I are thinking of getting another couple of rescue dogs in the next couple of months.
Our last rescue dog, Maddie had bone cancer. We lost her a little over a year ago.
It seems that with every dog we lose it takes me longer to get past the loss. I never really get over it.-
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On 2/22/2026 at 12:39 PM, Stump Water said:
At least the POS got arrested.
And I hope she gets her ass kicked every day she’s in jail.
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Am I the only one that had to look up “bag rider”?
Personally I would go with the idea proposed by @Colorado Coffinmaker
Also, make sure you limit the glue near the bottom of the nutsert hole so it doesn’t interfere with the internal threads.
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2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:
It also pays for the program you’re watching, in addition to your monthly cable bill or whatever you have!
I have always felt that if I am paying for cable there shouldn’t be any commercials. That’s why I like streaming services.
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What’s a commercial?
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This BS of state and city governments having taxpayers pay for stadiums and giving teams tax breaks and promising fees for filled seats and all that horse crap should be illegal.
The irony is if people spent as much time paying attention to government as they do with sports this silly BS would never be happening.-
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Norton hasn’t ruled any road in a long time.
🏆 Fastest Street-Legal Speed Motorcycles
1. Kawasaki Ninja H2
The supercharged Ninja H2 is the most usable hyper-performance motorcycle on the planet, combining insane top-end power with real-world street manners and Kawasaki’s aerospace-inspired engineering. The H2R is even faster, but it’s a track-only machine.
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Look at what we have witnessed in our lives… and I am talking about the positive things, not the negative.
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4 hours ago, Chantry said:
I have trouble remembering my own name sometimes
I never had a problem with my own name. My Mom & Dad used my full name often throughout my childhood so you could say they beat it into me.
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I have Miracle Ear hearing aids. These are the only ones I have experience with. They are programmable and have Bluetooth.
Honestly, I am not impressed. They seem to do their own thing at times and the only reason I don’t smash them is they cost $4800.00.
I hope these are not the pinnacle of technology.
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If you want a cheaper version the Taurus 905 might suit your wallet.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/32371/taurus+905+stainless+9mm+revolver
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23 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:
Why?
Because it’s there…
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2 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said:
They bring my Dillon XL650 to a stop as Federal small pistol primers won't go in the primer pockets as they are so tight (.38spl brass) I get a lot of this brass as a lot of our new shooters who don't reload buy it from the club. I bought a Dillon primer pocket swager thinking that would be the answer......but I can't tell which S&B's have been swaged and which haven't. I toyed with the idea of grinding a mark on the base of the S&B's that have been swaged with a Dremel to be able to identify them.
Yes, they have snug primer pockets in .38. I forgot about that. I haven’t encountered that with 9mm.
Their brass is always stiffer that other brass too.
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I am also terrible with names regardless of sex.
Funny thing is if you tell me your dog’s name I only need to hear it once and I will not forget it.
An old boss I had used this trick. If you introduced yourself and told him your name he would immediately respond calling you by name before saying the rest of whatever it was he had to say.
EXAMPLE:
Stranger: ”Hi, I’m Bill. I am here to inspect your…”
My Boss “Hi Bill, I am Bob. How can I help you Bill?”
This trick does work for me if I decide this is a person I need to remember.
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7 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said:
Can’t look at the article without signing up.
6 hours ago, Alpo said:When I got to the page I got about three lines read and this thing appeared wanting me to sign up. But I just scrolled the page up and down a couple of times and that pop up disappeared, then I had no problem reading the article
Here it is. Copied and pasted
Tombstone: On the Cutting Room Floor
SHAREHistorians, actors and film critics weigh in on Kevin Jarre’s original script—and whether it should be remade and finally get its DUE.
Everyone seems to agree that Kevin Jarre’s original script for Tombstone was brilliant. So why hasn’t someone dusted off the source material and re-filmed it the way Kevin wrote it? Is it because it’s too long for a movie, as some suggest, or is there a deeper truth about the whole shebang? We asked the participants in the 1993 film to weigh in, along with some of the best historians in the Earp field. Read on, this is very
insightful stuff.
—Bob Boze Bell
All “Tombstone” photos courtesy Buena Vista Pictures Unless Otherwise Noted
Tombstone screenwriter and director Kevin Jarre was removed from the set after three weeks of principal photography on the epic Western in the summer of 1993. Afterward, his career would never be the same, and he died 19 years later at the age of 56. Courtesy Bob Boze Bell
What was Kurt Russell’s role in Kevin Jarre’s removal from the Tombstone set? We may never know, but it is generally agreed that without Russell’s leadership on the set—on all aspects of the film’s production, direction and script after Jarre was fired—that the film would not be the classic it is considered today.
Not Ready for Prime Time
In December 1993, Buena Vista Pictures and Cinergi Productions released the classic modern Western, Tombstone, the story of Wyatt Earp and the shootout at the O.K. Corral. Written by Kevin Jarre, who, in 1989, also wrote the screenplay for the award-winning film Glory, the script was the main reason many actors wanted to be a part of this project. This was to have been Jarre’s first attempt at directing. And, with crackling dialogue, biting accuracy, and brilliant dramatization, the screenplay came closest to telling the legend of the shootout better than any other previous attempt. Rather than an action-packed shoot-’em-up, Jarre’s script focused on a character study of Wyatt, his brothers and Doc Holliday. Sadly, however, as brilliant a writer as Jarre was, his enthusiasm couldn’t offset his lack of directorial experience. He just didn’t have any, and he refused to listen to those who did. Imagine ignoring Kurt Russell, Sam Elliott, Val Kilmer and Bill Fraker when they tried to make suggestions. Many have said it was a shame that Kevin hadn’t had a few smaller productions under his belt before taking on a project of this magnitude. And a review of Jarre’s unused footage clearly supports that contention.
Kevin Jarre’s career as a director began and ended in the Arizona desert as he was removed from the Tombstone production less than halfway through principal photography. His original script remains an unfulfilled dream of many of his fans and supporters. Courtesy Bob Boze Bell.
Most of Kevin’s scenes were master shots, visually beautiful but challenging to edit. His goal was to shoot Tombstone on “sticks,” in the style of John Ford, but he either didn’t understand the concept or didn’t know how to execute the vision. The result, wasted time, energy, money and hours of discarded footage. The only scenes Jarre shot that appear in the final release are those with Charlton Heston, and they couldn’t reshoot them after Jarre was released as Heston had already departed the set and wasn’t available.
Within mere days of start-of-production, it was apparent Kevin wasn’t able to bring his script to fruition. While it is not explicitly known precisely what prompted the studio to replace him, it was clear that the fledgling novice would not deliver what the studio expected. Some have said the studio only wanted Jarre’s script, and it was their intention all along to replace him as director; others pointed to Kevin’s micromanage-ment and lack of adherence to a schedule. Still others spoke of scene composition and coverage. Dialogue that previously leapt off the page now sounded stilted and artificial, and the actors’ performances appeared forced and pedestrian.
There were numerous rumors on the set; Jarre was drunk, or doing drugs or was out riding his horse all day, or deliberately being sabotaged. In any case, the studio had had enough, and after considering John Milius and John McTiernan, among others, Jarre was fired and replaced by action director George Cosmatos. For Kevin, a project that began with such high expectations and excitement ended in failure. Several of Jarre’s ideas were used but eventually re-filmed by Cosmatos. In the revised screenplay, parts were pared, dialogue changed, scenes blended. Some said they wouldn’t have agreed to do the film if that had been the original script.
Crash Crandall. In May of 1993, when filming began on Tombstone, near Elgin, Arizona, artist and re-enactor Jerry Crandall filmed a scene on his horse, Apache, where he gets shot by the Earp posse. As Jerry fell, he threw his black powder .45 skyward. He didn’t know it at the time, but he dislocated his shoulder. Like a trooper, he got up and did a second take.
Jarre never again achieved the brief success he had with Glory. He was a script doctor, involved with The Devil’s Own before the script was torn apart in 1997, worked on The Mummy (1999), and supposedly was an uncredited writer on John Lee Hancock’s The Alamo (2004). If he just had a bit more experience, it would have been interesting to see what he could have accomplished with his Tombstone script. However, at that time in his career, he just wasn’t prepared to take on such a massive opportunity.
—John Farkis (Author of The Making of Tombstone: Behind the Scenes of the Classic Modern Western)
A Savaged Script
Simply put, the script Kevin originally wrote was most brutally savaged in the vendetta ride scenes. In Kevin’s script, the action scenes are anchored in an explicit context. That makes those scenes dramatically meaningful and informs the audience as to who exactly is being killed by the Earp party. In the film, as released, the vendetta ride becomes a somewhat confusing montage of scenes that lacks dramatic cohesion. And, one new scene, which makes no sense whatsoever, is added for no discernable purpose. That is the scene of Wyatt’s posse lynching someone in front of the Dragoon Saloon in Tombstone.
If Kevin’s script had been followed, the finished film would have been bigger because more members of the Cowboy gang would have been clearly identified and delineated. And, if Kevin’s script had been shot, the film, as a whole, would have made more sense. Action scenes, without proper previous character development, become meaningless.
Also, if Kevin’s script had been followed, the scenes with Hugh O’Brian would not have been cut. Having O’Brian in the film would have made explicit how Tombstone fits into the larger sweep of previous Earp films and TV shows. In fact, originally, Kevin wanted Burt Lancaster to play Marshal Fred White. If that had panned out, Tombstone would have been a sort of culmination of Earp films. For instance, Harry Carey Jr. portrays Fred White. In the history of Earp films, Harry Carey Sr. played the Doc Holliday character in Law and Order (1932), the very first Earp movie. Then, 25 years later, in 1957, Olive Carey, Harry Carey Jr’s. mother, and the widow of Harry Carey Sr., portrayed the mother of Billy Clanton in Gunfight at the O.K. Corral. Both Harry Sr. and his wife, Olive, actually knew the real Wyatt Earp. So there was a lot going on with the casting of Tombstone that was completely missed by film critics.
—Jeff Morey (Historical consultant for Tombstone)
According to Tombstone consultant Jeff Morey, the casting of Harry Carey Jr. as Marshal Fred White (second from left) was a tip of the hat to the heritage of Carey family members who starred in previous O.K. Corral Westerns. L.-r.: Sam Elliott as Virgil Earp, Carey Jr., Bill Paxton as Morgan Earp and Kurt Russell as
Wyatt Earp.What Could Have Been
Kevin Jarre’s original script is stunning and haunting. Had that film been made, it would stand out as perhaps the greatest of the genre. It would also have been very, very long. Would it have captured the imagination in the way that the actual film did? I can only guess, but I somehow doubt it. The current version of Tombstone is a film people can watch over and over, repeatedly enjoying it. Not many films can make that claim.
—Casey Tefertiller (Author of Wyatt Earp: The Life Behind the Legend)
Kevin Jarre’s more intimate scene between Dana Delaney’s Josephine Marcus and Kurt Russell’s Wyatt Earp was not included in Tombstone’s theatrical release.
Anyone in Hollywood Listening?
If Kevin Jarre had been able to film his own script, it would have made Scorsese’s The Irishman looks like a trailer. It’s a great script—I think somewhere I called it “the great unpublished Wyatt Earp novel”—but we’re not talking feature film, we’re talking miniseries. Kevin just had too much to say. Some of the deleted scenes that were re-inserted on the DVD give us an idea of how much richer the story would have been. For example, as Doc leaves Kate to ride with Wyatt on his vendetta, he echoes Frankie Lane’s song to ask her “Have you no kind word to say while I ride away?” Perhaps the best example is the scene someone sent me on VHS where Billy Clanton swipes Wyatt’s horse and Kurt Russell rides out to the Cowboy camp to retrieve it. We actually get to see what it is the Cowboys do: rebranding stolen Mexican cattle. Particularly interesting is that in real life, Wyatt went out to the camp without a gun.
Tombstone is pretty good as it is, but Jarre’s script is so much more layered and expansive. Come to think of it, it really would make an excellent miniseries.Anyone in Hollywood listening?
—Allen Barra (Author of Inventing Wyatt Earp: His Life and Many Legends)
A Misguided Vision
While Kevin’s pre-production period was one of the more thorough and detailed of productions I have worked on (selection of wardrobe, boots, hats, weapons), I was surprised at his shot selection choices and his sense of composition. During the first few days of shooting (if not the actual first day of shooting—memories get confused) Kevin lined up a shot with Wyatt and Josephine when they “meet cute” before their challenging horse race through the woods and down a steep drop.
The way it was staged Josephine towered a full foot and a half over Wyatt’s head. In no one’s book is this a proper composition that would show two equally strong personalities meeting privately for the first time. We all saw this as a problem. I asked Bill Fraker (the director of photography and associate producer) if I was wrong and he agreed and said he would talk to Kevin. He did. Kevin would not change the composition. I asked Terry Leonard to have a word as well (both men were highly respected in their fields and as directors as well). Again Kevin argued to keep his composition.
I will not speak for Kurt Russell, but I felt that he was not happy at “looking up” to Josephine at such an awkward angle—so I too talked to Kevin. He told me that he intended to do such novel compositions throughout the film and that his style would not be MTV music video—but John Ford.
I knew we were in trouble but hoped that as time progressed Kevin would pay attention to Billy Fraker and come to an understanding of how the composition of a shot tells the same story as the dialogue does, if not more.
That never happened in spite of the efforts of many people to convince him. While Kevin was still directing and after the change of directors, Cinergi was accused of taking a classic American Western and turning it into a music video Western. That was meant as a slam, but if you look at the final cut of the movie, while there is some MTV-style cutting, in the end it all works together. If Kevin had stayed on, there would have been mighty battles in the cutting room after his first cut.
Andy Vajna at Cinergi, I am almost certain but have no documentary evidence, had final cut rights to the movie. He and his partner at the time at Carolco—Mario Kassar—successfully cut a teaser/trailer of First Blood after an initial viewing proved less than welcome with Sylvester Stallone. That teaser went over HUGE at Cannes, and the picture was cut using the style that was created in that editing room.
Revenge motif was a best seller for Carolco. A wronged person sets out to right that wrong and is willing to die in the attempt. Many of Carolco’s films featured an armed hero/star with a weapon in a posture of combat against a background of red. In Tombstone it was the burning building on the main street with the four armed heroes in black marching into history.
I think Andy would have gotten intimately involved in the editing had Kevin completed the film, and I would bet that his version would have been significantly different from the one Kevin had in mind. This is hindsight on my part and conjecture, but I knew both men and I know that Andy would have won.
—Bob Misiorowski (Tombstone producer, shared credit with Sean Daniel and Jim Jacks)
The Greatest Western?
If one disregards the over-the-top bloodbath scenes in its first five minutes and its final 15 minutes, Tombstone may well be the finest Western ever filmed. Its sets, costumes, casting, acting and especially the extraordinary screenplay by Kevin Jarre, place it far beyond any other motion picture about the Old West. When it first appeared in 1993, some critics pooh-poohed the sets and the clothing. Western sets were supposed to look like ghost towns, and male actors were supposed to wear batwing chaps, huge Stetson hats and buscadero holsters. But critics and viewers alike soon understood the truth: mining towns like Tombstone were then new; batwing chaps, huge Stetson hats and buscadero holsters did not exist in the Old West; and people in that era wore clothing exactly like that seen in Tombstone.
Much of that authenticity came from the expertise of its technical consultant, Jeff Morey. His input also contributed to the fact that the script, though fictionalized, nonetheless provided a reasonably accurate account—at least by Hollywood screenwriter standards—of Wyatt Earp’s war against the Cowboys. Yes, there are wild fabrications, such as the killing of John Ringo by Doc Holliday, but also a realistic reimagining of the Earp women as former prostitutes—which modern research has confirmed. One of the most impressive features of the film is Jarre’s carefully crafted dialogue—the actors employ colorful 1880s slang with an easy abandon. Those who have not seen Tombstone are in for a real treat.
—John Boessenecker (Author of Ride the Devil’s Herd: Wyatt Earp’s Epic Battle Against the West’s Biggest Outlaw Gang)
Lost Possibilities
In terms of Kevin Jarre’s Tombstone script, that original treatment has been about as mythologized as the original events themselves. “It was Shakespearean!” “The most historically accurate telling of the Tombstone tale!” “A lost masterpiece!”
Hold your horses, folks. It was a great script, and it was the reason that many of the actors signed on to the project. Kevin Jarre had a vision, and here it was embedded. But it was Hollywood, not history. It was modern popular culture, not The Bard. Things were lost when Kevin was fired and Kurt Russell took over—including scenes that added flavor and continuity to the story. Certain characters were not as developed as they would have been if the original script had been maintained. But the truth is this: the Jarre treatment was not producible, not within the confines of a two-hour movie. Not within a somewhat reasonable studio budget. That’s the hard reality. But the legend is more interesting, fraught with lost possibilities and a masterpiece unmanned. So let the horses run.
—Mark Boardman (Features Editor of True West and editor of The Tombstone Epitaph)
The walk-down in Tombstone was an instant classic and a defining scene in the critically acclaimed 1993 Western. L.-r.: Val Kilmer as Doc, Sam Elliott as Virgil, Kurt Russell as Wyatt and Bill Paxton as Morgan.
Kevin Jarre
The Man who Created Tombstone
By Henry C. Parke
Born in Detroit in 1954, Kevin Jarre had a tumultuous youth, which predestined him for a cinematic career. The son of gorgeous 1960s starlet Laura Devon, he lived first in Wyoming with his “Hemingwayesque” biological father, Cleland Boyd Clark, a rancher and fashion photographer. After moving to Hollywood with his mother, he was soon playing bit parts in Flipper, alongside series star (and now Kevin’s stepfather) Brian Kelly. By 1967, Devon had shed Kelly and wed French film composer Maurice Jarre, who’d won Oscars for Lawrence of Arabia and Dr. Zhivago. Maurice adopted Kevin.
As a teenager in England, where Maurice was scoring Ryan’s Daughter, Kevin befriended the film’s director, David Lean, who scoffed at the lad’s plans for an acting career, encouraging him instead to write and direct, and to skip film school. “He said I could learn all that in six months.”
Jarre was writing spec scripts, “living on dog food at the time,” when he got his break: He was hired to write Rambo. A spec script became The Tracker, an HBO Western starring Kris Kristofferson. He says he was a “Civil War freak…ever since I got some toy soldiers when I was a kid,” and that a friend’s comment that Jarre resembled Robert Gould Shaw, the white Harvard grad who led the all-black Massachusetts 54th in the Civil War, led to research, and the film Glory, which won three Oscars.
Then came Tombstone: Jarre’s brilliant retelling of the O.K. Corral gunfight became not merely a classic but the career zenith of virtually everyone associated with the film. It was to have been his directorial debut, but sadly, unable to direct at a pace to match the film’s shooting schedule, he was replaced. He followed with the I.R.A. thriller, The Devil’s Own, and shared story credit in the 1999 hit, The Mummy. Though, tragically, Jarre died of heart failure at the age of 56, the legacy he left, with Glory and Tombstone, is more than sufficient to guarantee him film immortality.
Truth in Black and White
By Michael Biehn
The multitalented actor who played Johnny Ringo in Tombstone reflects on Kevin Jarre’s script and the film’s production.
About two years ago my wife and I decided we would spend more time in Arizona. We selected a home in historic Bisbee, drawn by its small-town, artisanal character. Bisbee also lies within close proximity of Tombstone, setting of the 1993 movie in which I played Johnny Ringo.
I’d agreed to play Ringo, and I tried to envision the case he would make for himself, to grasp his reason for being. I didn’t approach him as a “bad guy” per se; actors don’t play bad guys; they play characters in situations. It helped, too, how much the other characters built up Johnny as the fearsome antagonist: “The deadliest pistoleer since Wild Bill,” Doc calls him in their first scene. And near the end, on the night of the final showdown, Doc and Wyatt wax eloquent on what makes a man like Johnny tick: “Got a great empty hole right through the middle of him and no matter what he does he can’t ever fill it…he wants revenge.” “For what?” “For being born.” After a buildup like that, I didn’t have to do a whole lot more than just show up.
That was why I objected to a scene in the screenplay following Johnny’s “I want your blood!” drunken howl. Curly Bill whisks Johnny off to a ranch house, clearly intent on raping the woman inside, and leers “See, Johnny, there is a God.”
Michael Biehn inhabited the Tombstone role of Johnny Ringo as no other actor, before or since. Biehn credits Jarre’s script for inspiring his fan-favorite interpretation of the outlaw.
Overkill, I protested. Johnny’s villainous persona is already established by now; if shooting a Catholic priest at a wedding hadn’t accomplished that, it’s hard to imagine what would. And I felt demonstrating Johnny’s knowledge of the Bible and Latin prior to shooting the priest suggested a backstory involving the church that gave him grounds for his actions.
That “See, Johnny, there is a God” line didn’t survive to the final film; we never shot it. All movies undergo screenplay modifications prior to and during production as well as through editing, this was just one of many cuts. In fact, the story-behind-the-story of Tombstone is just how severely the screenplay was “modified” when screenwriter Kevin Jarre was dismissed as director weeks into production. Whole sequences went on the chopping block during the hectic weekend following Kevin’s departure, when the fate of the production hung in the balance.
Kurt Russell talked in these pages (True West, October 2006) about what he and the producers faced in determining what would remain of the screenplay, a dilemma made even more difficult by the decision to not use any of Kevin’s footage. Kurt talked about how much he had to pull down from Wyatt’s scenes to give the other characters breathing space. The Cowboy roles also underwent severe cuts; Powers Booth and I lost meaty scenes and fifth credited Robert Burke (Frank McLaury) barely has any lines or screen time in the movie.
I had long believed that after Kevin’s departure, Tombstone lost the depth of his original vision; that the shadings and nuances of the primary figures had been stripped away and what remained were the familiar, stereotypical caricatures of the standard Western. I’m sure my identification with Ringo and my bonding with the actors playing other Cowboys put blinders on me and rendered my memories myopic. I’d come to believe that Kevin’s almost fanatical desire for historical accuracy in matters like wardrobe and weaponry meant that his screenplay was similarly accurate in depicting the fullness of its characters.
I’d come to believe that with such certainty that I recently did something I’ve never done before—dug up a copy of the version of Tombstone I first read 30 years ago. I don’t watch my old movies—the “willing suspension of disbelief” just isn’t there for me—let alone reread the screenplays. But filled with what I’d been reading and fired by the conviction that Kevin had tried to tell a truer story than all the previous versions by far, I began reading.
Kevin Jarre’s original Tombstone script is noted for having much fuller roles—and more dialogue—for the actresses who played the Earp women. L.-r.: Dana Wheeler-Nicolson as Mattie, Kurt Russell as Wyatt, Paula Malcomson as Allie, Sam Elliott as Virgil, Lisa Collins as Louisa and Bill Paxton as Morgan.
There was a comforting old familiarity in the screenplay’s opening lines, Robert Mitchum’s voice intoning the opening monologue. Mitchum had been cast as Old Man Clanton in the first scene, but injury kept him from filming, so he narrated instead, and the Old Man went to an early grave as Curly Bill took his best lines. I was fortunate to get the screenplay early, and the caliber of the cast that came together would be among the best of any film of the decade, I would argue, a testament to the screenplay’s quality. “Godfather of Westerns,” it’s been called.
My first thought after putting the screenplay down after rereading it, however, was “What just happened?”
This wasn’t what I remembered at all. That subtlety and nuance, that balanced presentation of the characters I’d persuaded myself was the bedrock of Kevin’s screenplay, never existed. Kevin went all in showering the Cowboys in villainy at every turn while exalting Wyatt into an avenging angel Frontier Dirty Harry.
The Wyatt lionizing reaches a high-water mark in a scene near the end during the vendetta ride. Wyatt stumbles upon a wagon train filled with fellow Illini, who hail him without knowing anything about him, a sequence that ends with a nod to a classic Western with a little boy calling after him something akin to “Come home, Wyatt, come home.” Cue the music. That sequence never got shot, as was true of much of the screenplay’s last third, which included subplots drawing out the vendetta ride into a meandering marathon.
I thought when I got to page 90 that I must be nearing the end and gasped when I saw there were still 40 more pages!
In his True West interview, Kurt Russell said he often urged Kevin to cut 20 pages, and I’m sure he was referring to this material since much of it went with Kevin. Wyatt lost some nice moments—he had plenty—and Johnny lost a rousing version of a “St. Crispin’s Day” oration taking command of the Cowboys in the aftermath of Curly Bill’s demise “ … This is my time, children. This is where I get woolly.”
One significant discovery for me was how much fuller the women’s roles had been; I hadn’t appreciated just how severely they’d been emptied out with the screenplay cuts. Josie (Dana Delany) was an integral player in Tombstone history as well as in the screenplay. She was first engaged to Sheriff Behan before fixing her eyes on Wyatt, and the ensuing romantic triangle contributed to the tensions that resulted in the gunfight.
With Kevin’s departure, Josie’s screen time was so scaled back that any reference to her involvement with Behan disappeared, and her relationship with Wyatt amounts to little more than a chance encounter on horseback. A tense scene with Josie and Mattie Earp vanished, along with just about any other presence of the Earp wives. In the screenplay, Big Nose Kate’s repartee was every bit the match for Doc Holliday’s wisecracks, but in the movie she’s little more than an adorning onlooker.
Without question the biggest eye-opening takeaway for me in the screenplay is just how strenuously Kevin pushes the “depraved” label on the Cowboys. My illusions about “nuance” and “shadings” got put to rest right from the start with this now-deleted definition of Cowboy—“an insult implying deviant sexuality.”
From there follows a palpable homoerotic undercurrent amongst the cowpokes, almost as though they were a crew of “gay caballeros” and Curly Bill’s frequent protective arm around the shoulder of “Sister Boy” Breakenridge (Jason Priestly) suggests they may have strayed off to Brokeback Mountain a time or two. This “sexual depravity” element feels like a dead horse the screenplay insists on flogging, one of several the film didn’t need or use.
Clearly, then, no one has a monopoly when it comes to myth-making and truth-bending; there’s a veritable glory hole of it surrounding tales of Tombstone. I didn’t realize how in my “misremembering,” I’d mythologized Kevin Jarre’s screenplay into something he never intended it to be. Kevin very much followed the Liberty Valance dictum that “when legend becomes fact, print the legend.” The movie that emerged after his departure is a boiled-down version of what was always in the screenplay and not some compromised artistic vision. The irony is in no way lost on me that for months now I’ve been advocating for a greater embrace of “the truth about Tombstone” while at the same time remaining so oblivious to the truth about something I should have known all along. Wouldn’t be the first time.
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3 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said:
Next worse thing is Sellier & Bellet brass!!!!
I haven’t had any trouble with S&B brass in .38, .357 and 9mm. What do you encounter that’s a problem?
By the way, there primers are squared off, not rounded, at the edges and can be a real b**** to pick up with my RCBS Auto Prime Tubes.
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I will be sure and install one of these if I ever find myself driving in the Middle East.
Anyone that stalls me and needs directions will be run over unless they use the code words “Excuse me”… عذرا -
Holy Cow!!!
I watched the commercials after the milk “shocker” and discovered a couple of things. Aussies calls McDonald’s “Maccas”, but McDonalds actually had a deal where you could get Caviar with your McNuggets in select locations though I couldn’t tell if it was in Australia or the US or both. It was only a promotion of 500 “kits”
But here’s the “Homy Cow” partFord makes a Dark Horse R that is a race ready Mustang that you can buy in Australia.
One more “Holy Cow” the video from Oz below had 23 trackers when I opened it in DuckDuckGo
Here’s one you can buy in the US. I have never heard of these.
https://www.fordpro.com/en-us/fleet-vehicles/mustang/dark-horse-premium/Oh, if I ever win the lotto…
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Movie fences spark as do movie bullets hitting cars and buildings.
In my limited experience with electric fences the ones I have touched or gotten near did not spark. The ones I touched did zap me good though.
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3 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said:
I’m old enough to remember when Sunoco, a brand long gone from our market, had 101 octane gas for those behemoth engines in the late 60s.
The only 100 octane gas I’m aware of now is the avgas I put in the planes I flew.
Sunoco has 87, 89 and 93 unleaded. They also have non-ethanol fuel at a Sunoco near me but I cannot recall the octane number. It’s for off road vehicles only. If they see you putting it in your car they will shut the pump off.
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Tabasco sauce users
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Tapatio the best.
I liked red Tabasco until I tried green Tabasco on my steak.
Then i tried Tapatio and I haven’t had a bottle of Tabasco in years.
I do like Frank’s hot sauce on wings occasionally.