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8 hours ago, Cpt Dan Blodgett, SASS #75655 said:
Picked mine up today. Fit and finish seems ok, have not disassembled and looked for machining marks in the receiver. Did a dry function check loading a shell in magazine then loading a fiocci translucent hull in the chamber. Racking lever the fiocci hull ejected just fine. With my IAC fiocci translucent do not want to eject while other brand hulls will. Leading me to the conclusion that the fiocci translucent hull is just a tiny bit longer than standard. I will attempt sporting clays on Thursday of this week and render a range report. Hopefully I have some fiocci translucent factory loads to test.
It ain’t no toggle link rifle - especially a short stroke modified version. As such, it’s hard to remember you gotta run that lever hard and slam it forward all the time. Some hulls eject easier than others.
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I’ve handled a few some friends have acquired. I’m underwhelmed as they’re unpleasant to shoot and (to me) their provenance isn’t worth the price. I love my 1990s govt series 80 Colt.
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We have family in Tulsa which isn’t far from Muskogee. I’ve been wanting to visit Batfish for some time now. Hope they get it open soon as the grandkids have grown enough since 2019 (when it floated away) to appreciate it.
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Adding on to Pat’s post, a lot of people use instagram to post personal pictures - family, vacations et al. What most don’t know is that instagram can legally sell the rights to your photo to another entity without your permission. So basically, the public is building a big stock photo library for them for free.
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Maybe, but more probable is they’ll decide the cost is too high and reduce the number built as was done with the Zumwalt destroyer and B-2 programs, which made the unit cost umpteen bazillion each.
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3 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said:
Sand will also absorb the sun and help melt it.
Sand will melt the sun?
(sorry, I just couldn’t resist. 😁)
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4 minutes ago, Wolfgang, SASS #53480 said:
the Cartoons !
I always looked at the CARTOONs first of all !
See Misty’s post at the top of the Saloon and Wire forums.
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I bet they miss both cost and completion dates. 10 years to build seems excessive. Perhaps the others will take less time?
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Ugh.
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It’s a joke, I say it’s a joke son.
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Grant’s book is an excellent, though somewhat difficult read due to his style of writing. It’s interesting to read Grant’s accounts in his own words.
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Ugh, looks like a heavy, wet snow. A pain to shovel.
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Here’s Groucho performing the same song at 78 years old on The Dick Cavette Show.
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5 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:
Trick if the lights and camera angle. Or bad retouching oh the photo.
Really bad computer retouching.
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11 hours ago, "Big Boston" said:
The article was referring to paper, as plastic was not a thing yet. It would somewhat apply to plastic, but plastic being thinner to get the same effect, according to something I read, the mouth of the hull would have to be even further into the forcing cone. IOW, the article went on to say, in a 67mm (2 5/8") 12 ga shotgun chamber a 2 3/4" plastic hull would seem like an ideal BP setup.
Brass hulls are an entirely different kettle of fish, as they use 11 ga wads. I'd think an longer forcing cone may be of some advantage, run cleaner and less recoil.But in my setup, I'm using a 2 3/4" plastic hull in a 3" chamber, would I see or notice any difference with a 3" hull. I'll make a pretty safe assumption that nobody shoots a 3" BP shotshell for Cowboy.
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My Stoeger and TTN SxS guns have 3” chambers and have only had 2 3/4” shells thru them. I use the same components for smokeless and Goex BP - AA plastic hulls, 1 oz pink plastic wads and Win 209 primers.
I like the AAs because they’re commonly tossed by others after one firing. In 30 years of reloading shot shells, I’ve never paid for empty hulls.
Fouling is unremarkable with real BP. Hot water rinse, pause, rinse again, followed by one or two tightly wadded 1/2 sheet paper towel dampened with Murphy’s mix. (Equal parts Murphy’s Oil soap, iso alcohol and hydrogen peroxide. 90% of the plastic snot from the wad comes out with the water. That’s all there is to it. Shooting BP is only as hard as one wants to make it. Like I said, it ain’t rocket surgery.
That’s a really nice antique roll crimper you got there. I’ve no idea if it works well with plastic hulls (probably does). Perhaps others will chime in.
My roll crimper works on a drill press, but I rarely use it. Loading is a chore (for me) so I’ll do most anything to speed things along. My loads are done on a Mec.
Welcome to the dark side!
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44 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:
Depends on how high the window was. If it was a couple or 3-4 stories he probably lived until he splattered! If it was a 9-10 stories he probably had a heart attack on the way down.
I'm not a doctor but I watched Marcus Welby and I was a big fan of Doc Adams on Gunsmoke!
…or he was already dead when he “ jumped”out the window.
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3 hours ago, "Big Boston" said:
I have a theory or experience question about shooting 2 3/4 black powder shells in a 3 inch chamber. It is fairly common to see new coach guns and even my single shot to be chambered 3", not 2 3/4".
I did read an old article on how the black powder shotguns of yesteryear were chambered a wee bit short so that the crimp opened up with a bit of the hull in the forcing cone, so that it would seal better and keep any combustion gases from getting past the the wad and ruining the pattern and fouling the barrel.
I don't want to buy 3" hulls just to load Cowboy if I don't have to.
A bit of trivia. In North America, the SAAMI spec for maximum pressure is the same for 2 3/4" and 3" shotshells. IOW a maximum average pressure (MAP) of 11,500 psi.
In the rest of the world the C.I.P. standards for 12 ga shotshells 70mm (2 3/4") and shorter are 740 bar (10,733 psi) and for the longer shells 73mm, 76mm and 89mm (2 7/8", 3" and 3 1/2") the MAP is 1050 bar (15,229 psi). SAAMI specs 3 1/2" at 14,000 psi.
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What kind of hull are you talking about - paper, plastic, or brass?
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5 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:
Based on the evidence....I'd say that he's stone cold dead.
Likely before he hit the pavement.
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On 1/15/2025 at 7:43 PM, Subdeacon Joe said:
That’s almost $162 in today’s dollars.
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On 1/18/2025 at 10:28 AM, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:
Is this the same brainless, soulless, unaccountable AI that runs the traffic lights in our area, the same AI that people are waiting with bated breath to have drive their cars and control their houses...and even businesses..., the same AI that is rapidly taking over our national defenses systems, that has too much control over our medical facilities, and runs a lot of machinery, sets prices based on population size, and so on ad-nauseam?
I have been working with computers of one sort of another for 59 years and have yet to see one that is infallible. They may be faster than I am and have more information stored in their digital so-called brains but in the long run they have no common sense, no experience, no true reflexes, and no personality.
And in most everyday situations they are not as smart as you and I are.
My father who had a mainframe computer business said about them, “Garbage in, garbage out.”
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On 1/16/2025 at 4:19 PM, Sedalia Dave said:
While you can still buy Anacin, the formulation used when that commercial was made is no longer available. One of the original ingredients in Anacin (Phenacetin) was banned by the FDA in 1983 because it was found to be a known carcinogen along with other lethal side effects including kidney failure. The Anacin sold today only contains aspirin and caffeine.
Good news is that phenacetin has been replaced by Acetaminophen. The closest OTC pain reliever to the original Anacin is Excedrin as it contains aspirin, acetaminophen, and caffeine. It is my go to pain reliever.
Thanks for that. I wondered about what became of the Anacin brand. Excedrin and Anacin were big competitors.
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On 1/16/2025 at 10:18 AM, Eyesa Horg said:
With "jet" engines
On 1/16/2025 at 10:26 AM, Subdeacon Joe said:Yeah, should have been "turboprop."
Announcer said “jet prop” at the very beginning.
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There’s a whole lotta overthinking goin’ on in this here thread. To quote one of my BP mentors from way back, Driftwood Johnson, “…it ain’t rocket surgery.”
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Cimmaron 1887 shotgun
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It does. It’s that the lever throw is much longer than a rifle and it’s easy to stop or slow down before it reaches full travel. You gotta slam it all the way to the stop.