Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

Skinner make some mearurements of your carrier. The two dimensions that will tell you for sure what you have are shown in the photos. Your dimensons should be close to those shown. Your photo looks nothing like this carrier. The number in the second photo is not clear. It is .455".

+1 to Abilene. The carrier in the photo does not look like a small carrier. Optical illusion?

Another post where a vital piece of information is missing. Definitely the wrong carrier. So how did it mysteriously get into the wrong gun? Based on the information provided my guess is the OP cleaned the gun just before Land Run and installed the wrong carrier. This would also explain why the carrier is not fully dropping. It is hanging up on the extreme sideways round.

Dillon, APP and grits.

Ha! Ha!

Typical business ploy. Never tell your customers you have discontinued a product if you can string them along to believe it may become available in the future. Otherwise that customer will start looking for another vendor and a replacment product. I will believe Trail Boss and Clays are available again when I see them on the shelves of the local retailers. Reminds me of some magazine publishers that keep accepting subscriptions and renewals even though they know they are declaring bankruptcy in a few weeks.

Always enjoyed following his quest to acquire every model of stainless steel Colt 2nd gen C&B's he could find.

Have you taken a metric ruler and actually measured a few? Sterling is cheap Turkish made ammo. Their website only shows 2 3/4" and 3" 12 gauge as being currently available. If they really are 67mm try loading a few. If there is a problem rather than get wrapped around the axle trying to load some weird foreign shells I would just toss them in the trash. P.S. Shotshells vary a lot in length. I just grabbed five empty Remington STS hulls and they varied between 68 and 70mm. Winchester AAs tend to be even a little shorter. Just try a few of your hulls.

First you need to tell us exactly what you are trying to load. Metric shells usually come in even increments. E.g., 60mm, 65mm, 70mm etc. What are you loading that is such an odd number? As a practical matter the Lee Load All has no adjustments. All the instructions say is if the crimp is bad to try changing wads. Even the cheapest Mec has some adjustment to the pre-crimp, final crimp, etc. Without knowing what you have the best way for you to tell is to try and load a few.

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Around here we call it a PITA.

This could be an interesting thread. As you noted you are new so you do not know the history of WB. Short answer as far as the forums is concerned is WB has chosen to try and separate itself from CAS shooters as much as possible. They even disagree with each other. Last year some WB rule changes caused a lot of internal friction.

Tens of millions of rounds have been loaded with Square Deals and hundreds of millions of rounds have been loaded using Dillon powder measures as the same one is used on all their presses. If hundreds of thousands of squibs were showing up nation wide it would be a matter of concern. They are not, it is not. If someone is genuinely having a problem with powder bridging quit using that powder. There are plenty to choose from. If you want to watch something watch the charge bar in the measure move back and forth. As long as there is powder in the measure and the bar is moving everything should be OK. Most squibs are caused from short stroking the press or doing something else dumb. P.S. I am talking about squibs. I see the shaker as being useful for getting more uniform charges not so much for preventing squibs.

Who does shotgun work on a savage/stevens? If you are talking about the 311 series basically no one. Very, very, very few CAS shooters use them anymore. They are not really good CAS shotguns. You won't find anyone that specialzes in them so you will have to find a good general gunsmith. What is it you are trying to accomplish?

For the past three or four weeks there has been a little card on the bulletin board at the Ben Avery Clay Target Center. "For sale Low Recoil Low Noise Winchesters, 1 1/8 oz." Since LNLR shells do not come in 1 1/8 oz I just ignored the card. Then yesterday I finally called. The guy sent me a photo and it was our favorite CAS load. So I asked how many do you have? He said eight cases. You want any? Yes as a matter of fact I want eight cases. Just got back from picking them up. I am shocked no one called before me as this area (Phoenix) is full of cowboy shooters. How much? He wanted what he paid for them in early 2020. We were both happy.

That problem would be better addressed by a low powder die like the RCBS Lock Out die.

At the velocities we are shooting the most expedient way to reduce recoil is to increase gun weight. That is why a lot of shooters put lead in the hole in the stock on most shotgun stocks.

In 1971 I was in MI and they issued me a snub nose .38. It was not a little S&W Model 36 either. It was some butt ugly full size six shot .38 with a short barrel.

I had a Jeep Liberty (1st Gen) that was metallic white and had chrome wheels. It was gorgeous and I never had a problem with it. I gave it to my daughter and when she came out from work one day it was gone. No doubt now cruising around somewhere south of the border. As previously noted the big problems are with the plug in HyBrids. My buddies wife has a Grand Cherokee and it went belly up about a month ago. Biggest dealer in the Dallas area said they would not even be able to look at it until mid-November.

Were you looking in the rear view mirror?

You only need a bullet sizer if you are going to cast your own bullets.

No one except you knows what "action work" was done. So based on what you have said the first thing to try is to tighten the mainspring strain screw to give the mainspring a little more tension.

As Garrison Joe noted every decease in shot weight will have less recoil at the same velocity. Most CAS loads are very light and well below any published data. So they do not recoil as much in the first place and going from 7/8 to 3/4 oz may have no perceptible difference in felt recoil. Here is a recoil calculator. Leave the wad weight and powder charge as is and plug in your other data for a comparison. You will have to accurately weigh you gun as this is a major factor especially for light CAS loads. http://www.omahamarian.org/trap/shotshellenergy.html P.S. the calculator is decimal. So if your gun weighs 7 and 3/4 pounds you must write the weight as 7.75 pounds

This comes up every so often. I have lots of firearms reference books and NONE of them say that 12 gauge Model 97s were ever chambered for 2 5/8" shells. They all say ALL 12 gauge Model 97s where chambered for 2 3/4" shells. 16 gauge guns WERE chambered for 2 5/8" shells up until mid-1929. I.e., up to serial numbers in the low 800,000s. 16 gauges were serial numbered along with the 12 gauges but only about 10% of Model 97 production was in 16 gauge. After 1929 the 16 gauges are all chambered for 2 3/4" The suggestion that old 2 3/4" chambers are shorter than "modern" 2 3/4" shells is BS. Shotgun chambers are measured by the length of the FIRED shell. 2 3/4" is 2 3/4" regardless of the crimp used. The forcing cones may be more abrupt in older guns compared to what is in vogue now. But the chambers are still 2 3/4". P.S. Model 93s started with 2 5/8" chambers. However the last ones produced just before introduction of the Model 97 were also chambered for 2 3/4" shells.