[Observation/Slip Hammer]

When I shoot gunfighter, it's cock, then pull the trigger.  Two handed it's all slip hammer.  I don't have any go around issues.

[What's the call?]

No call.  All targets down and there were 20 bangs.  Without seeing the setup, it appears to me the rifle targets were set so that misses could hit them easily.  Shooter is not responsible for poorly placed rifle targets.

[Single Six .32 H&R mag skips]

Call Ruger.  They can help.

[Help, a little trouble with host club-private non proflt 501 C7]

It depends on the club's bylaws.  At one range I'm a member of, there is a process for groups to have matches.  Once you meet the requirements and the board/members agree, you fall under the clubs umbrella for insurance.  They take in all the money and disburse it for maintenance, insurance, land rental, etc.

 

Another range is less formal.  They provide the range for a fee.  The club provides the insurance, targets, and other incindentals.

[We need a sticky cartoon thread]

All  in all,

[We need a sticky cartoon thread]

[We need a sticky cartoon thread]

Some statues you just don't mess with.

[Similar but not exactly the same WTC]

Thank you PWB for the quick answer. One miss, one P it is!

[What's the Call]

The real failure is what we have allowed the game to become. I do not even like double taps but more and more it seems a 3 target array is routine with double, triple, quadruple taps. But 9 rifle shots on the same dump target? Ugh, and sigh. This is not cowboy action shooting. This is some kind of contest to see who can toggle their rifles and pistols the fastest. I so regret this direction we have turned to, taken the wrong fork in the road. No wonder our numbers continue to plummet...

 

Please note the second sentence of the original post. The stage was not set that way, just simplified for the wire so everyone reading and commenting didn't have to wade through the stage to get to the important point, which was shooting the wrong knockdown and what is to be done about it.

[Similar but not exactly the same WTC]

Thank you to all that answered the previous WTC. It cleared up some concerns I had when running the timer. Now I have a slightly different one based on the same stage

 

Pistol targets have one dump target and one knockdown. Rifle targets have one dump target and one knockdown.

 

Stage calls for 9 pistol shots on the pistol dump target and then shoot the pistol knockdown. Move to rifle and shoot 9 rifle shots on rifle dump and shoot the rifle knockdown. Shooter starts and shoots the 9 shot dump on the pistol dump target and then, instead of shooting the pistol knockdown, they shoot the rifle knockdown successfully.

 

Here's the change in the way the shooter might shoot it.

 

They then move to the rifle table and shoot the 9 rifle dump successfully and then, because there is no knockdown available, shoot the 10'th shot on the dump target.

 

What's the call? The way I understand it, it should be 2 misses and a procedural. I miss for the knockdown left standing, I miss for not engaging where the rifle knockdown was and a P for shooting the dump target 10 times.

 

What's y'all think!

 

NNV

[What's the Call]

This came up while working up stages. I've simplified the stage that is proposed. SG is not involved. Pistol and Rifle targets are set correctly and have plenty of room between them but are visible from either table.

 

Pistol targets have one dump target and one knockdown. Rifle targets have one dump target and one knockdown.

 

Stage calls for 9 pistol shots on the pistol dump target and then shoot the pistol knockdown. Move to rifle and shoot 9 rifle shots on rifle dump and shoot the rifle knockdown. Shooter starts and shoots the 9 shot dump on the pistol dump target and then, instead of shooting the pistol knockdown, they shoot the rifle knockdown successfully. They then move to the rifle table and shoot the 9 rifle dump successfully and then, because there is no knockdown available, shoot where it would have been.

 

What's the call? Hitting a rifle target with a pistol shot is a miss per the Flow chart. My call would have been one miss for the pistol knockdown still standing. However, what do you do with the 10'th rifle shot. Do you treat it as a prop failure? Do you treat it as a 2'nd miss? This didn't occur in a match, but I'm thinking about how would you score it.

 

Thanks for your time!

 

NNV

[Anybody shoot in the Fort Bragg, NC area?]

I live in Fayetteville east of the base. These are the clubs I routinely go to.

 

In the Immediate area of Fort Bragg/Fayetteville are the Cross Creek Cowboys who shoot at Wagram on the third Saturday of the month and the Flat Branch Cowboys who shoot at Range 37 (North of Fayetteville) on the 4'th Saturday. I usually will be shooting there. Within in couple of hours drive, depending on where you live around the base, you have Creedmoor and Wilmington on the second Saturday, and Rocky Mount and Salisbury on the first Saturday. The New Bern group shoots every Saturday. Here's the link to the North Carolina Cowboy wire which has details.

 

http://www.carolinacowboys.us/cowboy_clubs.htm

 

I generally shoot somewhere in NC on the weekends. Drop me a message if you have any questions.

 

NNV

[New to SASS and need costume]

If you don't have the time to shop or money is an issue, jeans, a long sleeve shirt, lace up shoes or boots and a straw cowboy hat will do fine. There isn't any club around here that wouldn't welcome you with that. The hat's not required, but it will save you from doing the "hot brass dance."

 

I do some shooting with suit pants and vests. They came from various Salvation Army shops, Goodwill, etc. I looked for 3 piece suits and gave them the suit coat back. Usually the cost is under $20. Not necessary, but the belt loops were removed and I put bachelor buttons on them so I could use suspenders. Bachelor buttons are easy to install, you hammer them on. Suspenders can be bought in the same stores for about $1 apiece. If you see a collared shirt you like, they are easy to convert to collarless by stripping the winged part of the collar off.

 

Occasionally, you can find hats and boots, but they are rare at the Salvation Army and Goodwill stores. However, they are occasionally available in thrift stores and antique shops. I think they drift into antiques shops with other stuff, and the owners want to get rid of them. I don't thing I paid more than $20.

 

 

 

I've more expensive stuff now because of gifts and shopping at bigger matches, but with the expense of starting with guns and leather, it was nice to be able to get into right look without too much money.

[Effects of cold and heat on ammo performance?]

I do not have any problems with Red Dot at the low range of powder loading. I shoot a 38 special in my revolvers with a 105 grain bullet and Federal Primers. The rifle is a 357 Magnum with a 125 bullet, same primer. Both have good crimps. Primers are all seated tightly. I check each match round, and any that don't have the primer seated below the level of the case either get reworked or go in the practice bin.

 

We did have a couple of shooters have primer non ignition on the first cold Saturday that they didn't have previously. That may have been because the grease and oils thicken in the cold and slow the hammer down. They may need an extra tweek of the hammer spring.

[TARGETS...Type of steel and how thick?]

I bought these from Amazon.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YT5KRHI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

They were delivered USPS. I can handle them reasonably well as far as setting up goes and they look like they will last forever. I'd stay away from any non hardened steel. They get pitted quickly and you have more splash back problems.

 

NNV