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PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L

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  1. If is determined that the shooter jumped the clock "willfully" "in order to gain a competitive advantage" an SOG would be warranted on top of the "P". Go ahead and assess the MDQ for "unsportsmanlike conduct" (CHEATING) for repeat offenders. But a round fired safely downrange from the stage starting position would NOT be the same as one discharged in the loading area.
  2. 1866 TYPE made for an 1873 Approved Sept 2020: MODIFICATIONS APPROVED 2020 - SASS Wire - SASS Wire Forum (sassnet.com)
  3. A shooter MDQ'd for "jumping the clock" would have legitimate grounds to appeal that call...and would win. The call is (and always has been) a "P". SHB p.21
  4. The amount of time saved by "willfully" doing something "in order to" offset any part of the 10-second Procedural penalty is irrelevant.
  5. One last attempt to point out that the "right words" are used in the rule...there is NO REQUIREMENT that any "competitive advantage" actually result from the shooter's actions subsequent to the initial infraction. Synonyms for "in order to"
  6. The SOG penalty is in lieu of a MDQ for cheating ("unsportsmanlike conduct"). How about we simply dispense with the 30-second SOG/FTE penalties for cheating and simply MDQ anyone who intentionally engages a stage improperly after receiving a procedural?
  7. To use the "speeding" analogy: Let's imagine I'm scheduled to be somewhere at a certain time, but my vehicle battery is dead. (Unintentional delay). Once I jump the battery and get on the road, I intentionally break the posted speed limit in order to make up for the delay but get pulled over and cited by PD (which would further delay my arrival time); then decide to drive even faster once the officer is out of sight, I'm guilty of breaking the law twice...whether I arrive at my destination on time or not.
  8. The rule states "in order to obtain a competitive advantage" whether one is obtained or not. The phrase relates to the reason/purpose for performing an action. Subsequent assessment of a 30-second SOG for that attempt would certainly negate any advantage.
  9. Ask them to provide the regulations that forbid shipping it.
  10. Creating an actual "competitive advantage" is not necessary. It is the willful intent to do so (whether realized or not) that meets the criteria for an SOG penalty.
  11. The video is similar to an SOG penalty assessed at EoT in the past. The first "P" was immediately followed by multiple procedural violations that could not be assessed due to the "one per stage" rule. Going "two-handed" in a Duelist category and purposely dumping rounds on single targets (with multiple firearms) instead of alternating in order to reduce the impact of the initial 10-second penalty IS "a competitive advantage" in that it affects the shooter's score vs. that of others who shot the stage properly. In both cases (at EoT and in the video) the two factors for determining whether an SOG was warranted were verified by asking the shooters WHY they engaged the stage in that manner. "Because I can only get one "P" and "to make up the time for the "P" = SOG
  12. SASS Club: Mattaponi Sundowners (sassnet.com) West Point Gun Club – News and Information about the West Point Gun Club
  13. ARMSCOR USA "Armscor makes an entire line of ammunition right here in the United States at its factory in Stevensville, Montana. All Armscor ammo is new production with polished casings, uniform crimps and consistent overall length" SOURCE
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  15. I would suggest taking any complaints regarding WB "medallions" to the WBAS forum.
  16. On the Kirst Convertors I have the back plate does not fit flush to the cylinder when loaded like the Howell versions The chambers are not rebated for the cartridge rims, so it is easy to see which chamber is empty from the side/top: .......................................KIRST.......................................................HOWELL................................
  17. That is NOT why the topic was locked down. FORUM GUIDELINES
  18. OP question has been answered (with SHB references) multiple times.
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