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Posts posted by Nutmeg Ryder, SASS # 74966
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What are you using for loads?
And has the gun had work done on it?
Once a shotgun has had work to lighten springs, smooth, bevel and all the other magic our smiths do to them, they really dislike heavy recoil loads. Find AA/Rem/federal low recoil loads (try the Troy ones if you can find them)
Recently a cowboy friend was nearly ready to stop shooting, his shotgun was beating him up, opeing after the first round, not firing the second. Turns out he was shooting high velocity game loads essentially, the smith who did his work strongly recommened light low noise.low recoil loads.
Of course they may also just be a broken part. That's the "fun" of our game.
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1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said:
Yes, but I can't remember who! Just one!
Milo Sierra at the Tri State, MA/RI/CT match last weekend.
I got mine a couple years back also at the Tri States.
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7 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said:
I pulled a "Nutmeg" at the aTri- State in Maine, first stage got to the shotgun and NOT a shell to be found on me !!🤠
I'll blame it on the pouring rain!🤣
HEY, Let's not make it well know this manuver has a name now! 🤣
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21 hours ago, watab kid said:
can i ask why folks do this ? im really not seeing the advantages , but there must be somethging that makes this worth doing , enlighten me please
A bend at the tail end of the lever brings it closer to your thumb and as it pushes open it stays in slightly better contact with your thumb to help prevent slipping.
Johnny Meadows did both of mine, Baikels. It's nice but I am sure the other work he did was the real reason for improved SG times.
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Hi Sheriff,
Talk with Slippery, he want through it with all three girls.
If I remember correctly they all used a 12 gauge shotgun, the stock was cut super short, and he loaded the shells just like he shoots, but dumped 1/2 or so of the shot out. And they still knocked over the targets.
22 for Rifle and pistols, but not for long, went to 32 rugers and 38 rifles, with light loads.
But it really depends on the young'n and the level of physical ability.
I guess that may not be helpful!
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I run a 650N with adjustable powder and shot bar.
It has been dead accurate since I set it up about 10 years ago.
I check each session before I start but have never had to adjust except wanting to tweak something.
Now, don't get me started on the primer feed.....
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7 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:
What about the holstered pistol with a live round in it? Minor safety ?
There are now only two Minor Safety penalties.
A round not under the hammer or in a cocked revolver leaving the shooters hand is neither of these.
From SHB PG 23 Inadvertently left rounds in a revolver are misses, unless there is an unfired round under the hammer, in which case it is a Stage DQ.
So the round in the revolver, making the assumption, the revolver was not cacked again is just a miss.
Back to the OP.
P for 9th round not hitting the correct target, Miss for the unfired round.
And TO's are human, and if not 100% sure the shooter had only fired 9 and tellng them one more it they had shot 10 would be grounds for a reshoot as impropper coaching. Not saying anything is not improper coaching, and not grounds for a reshoot. Responsibility belongs to the shooter.
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From SHB Page 23 V27.9 May 12,2025
"Changing location with a long gun with the action closed and the hammer cocked (exception for long guns from the loading table to the stage with no round chambered)" Also see how to handle this situation for a rifle on page 12 of the SHB. For a shotgun it's easy, open it, access a penalty if there is a round in the chamber(s)
This rule applies only from the loading table to the shooting line.
Does not apply from shooting line to ULT. (Stop, open it) Breaking the basketball traveling rule would equal a SDQ
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I am the TG for the only affiliated club in my state.
There are people who shoot at my club on a regular basis, that are not members of the cowboy club, but are SASS members.
When the current (and last votes) came up I sent an email to the club members looking for their vote, I note how each has voted add my own vote and that is how "we" vote.
As here in New England states and clubs are in close proximity, I did put in my email that if they are members of another club, only vote once, either with my club, or the other. I also welcomed others who are not my cowboy club members to vote with us, if they had not been contacted by their TG.
I feel every SASS member in good standing should have a say, but some do not "belong" to a specific club.
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I should have stated the the Smokeless is "factory" but does lack info.
The BP Sub loads were handloads.
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I recently aquired some loaded 45-70 roulds. They are either smokless(with no load data other than 405grain projectile) and BP Sub (again no load data just bullet weight)
If I take these to the range to "unload" them in my handy rifle, do I need to be concerned with shooting both the smokeless and BP subs without significant cleaning of the barrel?
Not knowing the loads, these will be emptied and loaded to match my 130 year old trapdoor needs.
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Other than making sure of your point of aim with that ammo at the range you will be taking the deer at, no.
The rossi 92 can handle the pressures.
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9 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
There is a Massachusetts winner, a Connecticut winner a Rhode Island winner and "Tri-State" champion.
Now that you ask, I don't know if you have to be from one of the three states to be the champ.The top woman and man from each state is awarded the state championship, so 6 state winners were named.
Top woman and man are also awarded regardless of the state.
Top overall is also awarded.
Here are the State and overall winners from this year.
SASS MA State Champions:
Rapid Fire Ryan and Pistol Packin PammieSASS CT State Champions:
James Samuel Pike and Hey MoeSASS RI State Champions:
Nutmeg Ryder and Sassy T
Top Guns Overall:
Tyler Tornado and Dueling Des-
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8 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
If you need the FID (Firearms Identification, good only for long guns) or the LTC (License to Carry, good for pistols as well as long guns) to buy bore butter, that would indicate that the commonwealth considers it to be ammunition related in some way. In addition to needing the have the "gun permit" to buy live ammunition, you also need it to purchase things like primers, bullets, powder, percussion caps and shot. Oddly, I've never been asked to show it for buying brass, but out of state vendors have asked for copy of it for that as well. You even need it to buy a BB gun, BB's or pellets. Not sure about paintball guns and ammo.
What is bore butter, btw? I'd assume it was some sort of black powder lube or bore cleaner, but I honestly don't know.
I tried to purchase some tumbling media at a large commercial outdoor store (in Hudson, if you know you know) and I could not purchase it without a FID or LTC from Mass. Crushed corn! And if you think the MA 135 gunlaw is bad, look at what RI is trying to pass.
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In our sport a majority of the rifles have been worked on, so this question may best be asked to your gunsmith or the manufacturer of the parts installed in your rifle. As us cowboys for the most part shoot reduced loads I am not sure if there is some downgrading of the toggle strength when worked on.
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2 hours ago, SouthwestShooter said:
Is that a legal external modification?
SHB Version 27.6
Page 34
Hammers may be replaced or exchanged with hammers designed for the same frame size (e.g., small frame revolver hammers may not be installed on large frame revolvers or vice versa). Internal parts of the hammer may be changed (e.g., to allow for a half-cock notch on a revolver).
Ruger Super-Blackhawk/Montado style revolver hammers (i.e., lowered and widened hammers) are acceptable on both adjustable and fixed sight model revolvers. Hammer stops may be added.
The hammer travel distance on any revolver may be adjusted.
Rear sight notches cut into the revolver hammer may be widened.
Hammer spur grooves may be recut.
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If you can find a pair, the Super black hawk hammers as well as the Montado hammers are both a lower, and wider hammer spur, and in my case, (SBH) at least, a drop in replacement.
While you have them apart, perhaps a lighter hammer spring as well, depending on what is in there already
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3 hours ago, Captain Bill Burt said:
Or stop on your way home and shoot the South Carolina Match, which is the following weekend.
If only I had the time, just a mere 12 more years until I retire and hit the road!
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HMMM,
Have vacation time to burn, now the question is, are any clubs on the 95 corridor shooting on Sunday the 30th?
Make a stop on the way to work off some rust perhaps.
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I can't speak for the coil spring mod, but to remove the bolt the dust cover needs to come off, remove the connecting slide between bolt and extension and it will drop out of the frame. (73 by Cody)
to remove the extension I have to remove the buttstock, and the trigger assembly (two screws)
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Our October/Halloween Shoot is often a no miss match.
We use a static make up target, which is golden bb, as long as a round goes in the general direction of the target it's a hit.
Yes, spotters have to pay attention, but it is also usually very close to the end of our shooting season in New England, and I bring candy, which distracts everyone anyway.
Just something a little different, mixes it up and it seems to go over well.
We also do a September 3 or 4 stage match and then a team shoot off, double elimination, random draw and the team that wins gets a free shoot. We use the scores from the 4 stages to quickly make teams, top with bottom shooter is a team and so on. Easily the largest attended shoot we do.
Next best is an Ironman match the weekend of Thanksgiving, 4 stages, with 4 pistols, 2 rifles and nearly double the shotgun. Surprisingly good turnout, folks must want to get away from the family!
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50 minutes ago, T-Square said:
I'm much slower on video than in real life - why?
When I'm on the firing line, ...bang bang bang ...and I'm done ! On video, it's like 50 freaking seconds !!?? WHY ??!!
We all know video adds not only 10 pounds, but 20 seconds!
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9 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said:
I haven't chronod them yet, but I'm up to 5.4gr in my rifle and still getting that annoying gold dust all the way back to the hammer spring. At 4.4gr in my pistols with C45S brass and 160gr. pills, the gold dust is almost gone! Next batch I'm going up another tenth in pistol and .2 for the rifle. Haven't noticed a difference with primers.
Hi Eyesa, Happy New Year to you and Ellie!
I have not seen the gold dust yet at the 4.3 grains, but I have a serious crimp.
Still kinda "Snappy" I guess I was spoiled by the milder Trail Boss
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Wondering what people are loading for Clean shot in 45 colt, 200grain bullet.
Been trying to work up a ne load before I crank out a few thousand for the 2025 season.
My primary concern is for the revolver, rifle will work with whatever that load in, or so I have found so far.
Currently I am at 4.3 Grains, Magnum LPP, 200 Grain bullet seated with a Lee Factory Crimp die.
Average FPS is 618, Max deviation for 10 rounds 113fps, with an average of 35fps deviation.
My Previous load was Trailboss, 5.4grains same bullet, primer and crimp and it averaged 566fps, with tighter deviations.
So what say you, that also load Cleanshot?
An odd way to add a third pistol.
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The only time I have found having an additional, or two, staged loaded pistols is the Iron Man match, 2 riflrs, 4 pistols, and extra shot gun, like 8-10
Two stages in one. One of my best attended annual shoots Thanksgiving weekend, and then we go to a local diner and cause a rukus