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I shoot Colt 1851s (2nd Gens), one cylinder per gun... I load on the gun, at home prior to leaving. Cap at the loading table... The only time I deviated from that I capped empty chambers at stage one to clear nipples... and guess what... had a bit of fission material plug the nipple. After that, I load all six chambers, cap 5, and shoot the stage, go to the unloading table with my loading kit and recharge the 5 chambers emptied at that stage. Repeat for up to 12 stages over a 3 day match. Clean guns at home, at my leisure, been doing it that way since they made Frontiersman.
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Big Boston, none of the Winchester post '64 parts were MIM. The receiver was forged of sintered steel, not mystery metal, the carrier was sheet metal until about 1972, when it was changed to a cast part, as it remained throughout the USRA production, (I don't know what Miroku uses); the balance of the parts were forged regular steel. Sintered steel doesn't take hot bluing the same as forged steel, therefore the purple color inside the receiver. The receiver was either coated with steel & blued, clad with brass, pewter or hard chromed depending on model and time frame. Some were coated with a special "black" finish, but almost all were susceptible to freckling. Carriers would bend with most any jam, as most folks don't have much finesse when brute force sometimes works. Among my 30 Winchester 94s, I have 16 post '64s, some of which are among the smoothest of actions. Nothing inside the action "folds"... the lever has either a straight slot or a "L" shaped slot in it to facilitate it forcing the "link" to lower into position to accept a cartridge from the magazine. At the very end of it's forward stroke the carrier is forced upward putting the cartridge in position to be pushed forward in the chamber by the bolt. Working the action "smartly" it can function smoothly and quickly. Worked slowly, one generally feels a hitch where the lever hits the pin thru the lower link, as it usually takes a bit of force to push the link out of position against it's catch in the receiver.
I think they undeservedly got a bad rap in the beginning, partly due to the metal composition, and yes, partly due to the fragile nature of the carrier. Just like with many other arms, they only improve with judicious stoning of mating parts.
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37 minutes ago, Mister Badly said:
Aiming?
Whether using the sights or not, you're aiming at a target. How accurate not using the sights becomes is a matter of eye/hand coordination, a feat that varies widely from one person to the next.
2 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:Its my understanding that a MDQ on side match day is ONLY for that day, but the MDQ is not carried over to the main match, assuming
this is approved by the Match Director/club.
BUT..... a MDQ on the 1st day of a multiple day match IS for the complete match.
Is my understanding correct?
..........Widder
You are correct sir.
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Montados were initially developed for mounted shooting. They carried features that made them illegal for cowboy action, but enhanced their one-handed handling. Ruger then produced them without those features, and viola, legal for cowboy action.
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Step one: buy rifle,
Step two: measure groove & bore diameters,
Step three: THEN buy mold, sizer and components.
All the advertising mumbo-jumbo is just so much gibberish until you have the actual article in hand.
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19 hours ago, Choctaw Kid Tulsa said:
Anyone got some 45 cowboy brass they’d be willing to let go? I’m looking for 100 pieces..
Thanks,
Choctaw Kid
PM your address. I'll put 100 pcs in the mail later this week.
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All y'all need to cease and desist all shooting & reloading activities; might just leave some components on store shelves!
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If you're gonna spew nonsense, be prepared to be schooled! Winchester Repeating Arms became defunct when it went into receivership in 1931, subsequently bought out by Western Cartridge Company in 1934, a subsidiary of the Olin Corporation . So, "Winchester" hasn't made arms since 1934. Olin made Winchester firearms until 1983 when the New Haven plant was sold to the US Repeating Arms and produced firearms with the Winchester name under license from Olin Corp. They ultimately got swallowed up by Fabrique National, who closed the New Haven plant in 2006. And subsequently were granted a license to produce firearms with the Winchester name in their Miroku subsidiary's plant in Japan. Similarly to how Browning Firearms were made there. (Browning is also an entity owned by FN).
Second, the Winchester mdl 94 is an engineering marvel from the genius of JM Browning. A medium power rifle in a slim, trim, quick handling lightweight carbine. Just as Thomas G. Bennett requested. The mdl 94 was first produced in a pistol cartridge in 1969, a 44 Rem Magnum. The 45 Colt was introduced in the mdl 94AE in 1985. Parts are mostly interchangeable,, except the bolt for an AE won't work with a top eject (pre-'83, USRA receiver).
Thirdly, the mdl 94 and mdl '73 share a similar length factory lever stroke, so it doesn't really lose anything to a factory '73 in that regard. The stroke is a little "clunky" as the bottom of the receiver drops out of the receiver in order to facilitate the longer rifle length cases. The factory lever stroke on the mdl 1892 Winchester is slightly shorter than the mdl 94 and mdl '73, minutely longer than the Marlin mdl 1894. A well tuned Winchester mdl 1892 was THE go to rifle for CAS prior to the development of the short stroked '73. A properly set up Marlin in the hands of a skilled shooter was a good match for the 1892. Any of which is far better platforms for a pistol length cartridge than the mdl 94.
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On 1/8/2024 at 12:23 PM, Hoss said:
This past weekend I wet tumbled about 600 38sp cases in a Frankfort Arsenal tumbler. Used brass cleaner, water. (No pins). Cases came out shining like a diamond in a goats behind!
As I was drying them I found 3 loaded rounds that had been washed. 1 was APP, other 2 Bullseye powder. I wondered if they would fire.
All 3 went bang, I could not tell any difference! I really thought that the tumbling in water for 2 hours would have gotten a drop or 2 of water in the case, but apparently no.
That would NOT likely be the result with pistol ammo for a Frontiersman!
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1 hour ago, Go West said:
Do any of you use a bottle support for MEC shotshell presses? The reason I ask is my shot bottle broke at the neck. I've used a Sizemaster for 3-4 years without one. It was a bit chilly in the garage and may have made it brittle. Will the bottle support help? Thanks in advance.
No, I've had both my 600Jrs set up in my uninsulated metal workshop for the 33 years I've lived in Texas and for the prior 16 years they lived in my So Cal coastal garage. I had the metal "cap" separate from its base, but no bottle failures. Define "chilly".
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If they're safe in your Colt SAA, they'll likely be more'n fine in the Miroku.
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Congratulations Rusty. Wished I coulda been there to do it in person... A well deserved honor!
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My rough take on this "experiment" is that the only thing proven is which YOU'RE fastest with on that given day, at that given hour. On another day or hour, you might be fastest with one of the others.
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10 hours ago, Jeb Stuart #65654 said:
Exactly, load/gun combo problem, with the problem being the light bullet weight. The only thing that is changed is the bullet weight, rest of the load is the same, including the diameter. Same powder, powder charge and primer produce excellent groups with the 125 and 158 bullets. In 50 years of reloading, this tells me that there is something about the 105 gr. bullet that my guns don't like, so I don't use them. The only reason I mentioned it to the OP is that not every revolver will shoot a certain type of bullet well, maybe try a different bullet.
Your rifles & pistols may have different twist rates, thereby negated all the similar factors. MV also plays an important factor. I have a set in 45 with the exact opposite problem, bullets work great in handguns, lousy in the rifle. Or at least in that rifle.
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17 minutes ago, Jeb Stuart #65654 said:
Correct, my handguns are very inaccurate with 105's. Five inch 5 shot groups at 15 yds. With 125 or 158 they will shoot 1 1/4 inch 5 shot groups. Rifle shoots 105's with no problems
That sounds like load/gun combo problem, more than just bullet weight issue. Could be bullet dia to groove fit, twist rate issues.
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There will be those that look at that as trying to make it into something it's not. Rust is hard enough to prevent when a firearm has all of its' original finish. Bare steel is not an original finish.
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48 minutes ago, Bailey Creek,5759 said:
Wonder if you can use a Gas Check?
Yes, I have powdered coat my Saeco #316 GC boolits, apply a gas check and size them to .309 and shoot them upwards of 2200 fps. No problems. I apply the gas check AFTER powder coating. I use a yellow powder on these...
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35 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said:
On the other end of the spectrum I'm fond of my Ponsness Warren 800+. I flip a switch, insert a wad, repeat.
Aye, but you're loading more'n a box or two occasionally... I ain't sure I upgraded my 600 Jr., but I've finally gotten my Hornady 366 working for my BP rounds!
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Let me rephrase... I wouldn't shoot (AT) them even if I owned 'em. I did "fire" a pair of borrowed ones oncet. Did the New Year celebratin' suck all the sense of humor outta y'all?
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I wouldn't shoot 'em even if I owned 'em. I do believe I fired a pair of 'em that were borrowed at a match in AL several years ago.
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Flames are not really a problem per se when emitted from the cylinder gap at the front of the cylinder... It can be a indicator of a problem... But, it's when it also spits lead that you have a serious problem.
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Yeah, if anyone claims I bought a Ruger, ya best bet yer life savings it t'weren't me... 'cause you'd be a winner!
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26 minutes ago, ACP said:
On gas checks, I see these offered on more “premium” ammo. I’m not familiar with the advantages however, what makes it an applicable addition to these loads? Thanks for the education
Helps prevent leading. Even fairly hard lead bullets, if pushed fast enough can have lead stripped off and deposited in the grooves. It can be a bear to remove. Velocity, finish/condition of bore, & lead alloy can all be contributing factors.
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Revisit of Henry Big Boy use?
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+1 to Creeker, all correct. My problem with Henry Repeating Arms goes back to when they advertised their Henry Big Boy as SASS Legal before ever asking if it was. Dishonest at worst, simply fulfilling the mantra about assuming at best.