H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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Wish I was going! I'd let you photograph mine.
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It sounds to me like there is something wrong with your rifle. I have a Winchester 95 made in 1903, first lever gun I ever bought, that is chambered in .30-40. The magazine holds five, and you can close the action on an empty chamber, or put one in the chamber. It works the way you would expect/want it to. Something is absolutely not right if it's jacking out a live round.
The 95 is a great gun, and it's about long overdue time that there is a place for it (and the Savage) in our game, even if it is only in Wild Bunch.
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13 hours ago, sarcasmn said:
(I know people will correct silencer with suppressor but the original patent stated silencer).
Legally speaking, there is no such thing as a "suppressor." Read the text of NFA 34. It talks at length about, and regulated silencers, but doesn't say a word about suppressors.
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If you use in multiple guns, and assuming Magtech or similar brass, then resizing will be needed. CH4D is the way to go. The RCBS don't really resize.
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You say it won't open, but also that the slide release is flopping loose. I see that the hammer is down, will the gun open if you thumb cock the hammer?
There is a very real possibility that a specific internal part that has been described to me as a kind of "teeter totter," has cracked after a round was fired, and that's why it won't open. I've had that problem on both real Colts, and reproductions. It's a design flaw. You may be able to jiggle it loose or even pull the pump back with a lot of oomph.
Of course, I don't want to dismiss the concerns of others have raised about a live cartridge in chamber, but I tend to doubt it. The action is closed. There's no way you could close it on a cartridge other than a .44-40 or a .38-40. Other .44's won't chamber, to say nothing of a .45. But could someone have forced it? You can't rule out stupidity.
Are you comfortable with removing the magazine tube, and putting it back? That'd go a long way to letting you know if it's loaded, or if a cartridge is stuck under the carrier, which could also be the problem.These are some wild guesses based on some difficulties that I've had with my own Lightnings. I enjoy shooting them, but I am no gunsmith. I can only describe what some have said to me.
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Oh my!
That is one be-you-tifful rifle. If it worked, I'd say it's worth a pretty penny. No honest idea of what it would fetch. But the fact that it's non functional, to me, makes it not worth all that much. Absolutely a .44-40. How's the bore?
Is there any documentation on it? If this was done at the factory, which I bet is unlikely, that would greatly enhance its value, even in a non working state.Generically, it's something I'd enjoy owning. I'd send it to Lassiter to have it fixed, and then I'd shoot it. If I was trying to sell it, I'd still contact him, and ask him he'd be willing to look at it to see if it CAN be fixed. If it can be, I'd say fix it unless it would be stupid expensive to do. I'd also get a Colt letter.
Knowing I'd have to do some potentially expensive repair work would make me hesitant to pay a lot of money for it, as is. If I saw that an an estate sale that I walked in on off the street, I'd offer $150. I'd go as high as $250. Would not go any higher on the very real possibility that it could never be anything but a wallhanger without spending a LOT of money. If it were fully functional, I probably couldn't afford it.-
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Hey, Happy Trails! Nice to see you.
I'm still enjoying the Lighting Bolt.
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I was gonna say it's a very interesting looking revolver. But we already have a more correct answer.
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30 minutes ago, LEFTY MCDAVIS said:
Ok then I'll ask this question...WHat is everyone's favorite powder for 38spc and 45LC light CAS loads? And whats everyones favorite powder for the lite shotgun loads? Thanks so much for everyone's help, your knowledge is very humbling and extremely appreciated.
Trailboss for pretty much every pistol or rifle cartridge. Red Dot for 12 Gauge. Green Dot for 20 Gauge.
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I don't understand why WB stages are written for 6 rounds when it is built around guns designed to hold 5 in the magazine
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1 hour ago, "Big Boston" said:
But I can see myself finishing a stage with the 87 and saying "I'll be back".
Well, if you wanna do that, you need one that looks like this...
This one was made by Chiappa.
Not SASS Legal for some reason, but some clubs will let you use them at a local. BTW, I got a conventual stock for it give me a "two in one" package. Very nice. -
Looks pretty good. I've got one by Chiappa, their "Terminator" model, which has an 18.5" barrel and a pistol grip stock. (And a solid lever) Not SASS legal in that config for some reason, but fun. I assume Cimarrons Terminator will be similar.
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31 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said:
I was at the unloading table when two Rossi guys were kibitzing about there problems with their 92s. I invited them to work the action on my Winchester 1892. "wow! How'd you get it so smooth?" 120 years of use.
Okay, here's my "92 Journey."
My first 92 was the above pictured Rossi. Never thought there was anything wrong with it. Then I got an Armi San Marco 92. Very pretty rifle. HORRIBLE action. Several pards remarked that was "painful" to watch me try to use it. I agree, it was. First gun I ever had an action job done on as it REALLY NEEDED one.
I told the gunsmith I didn't want a race gun, I just wanted it to work like a real Winchester. The smith, I don't remember who he was, did an excellent job for me. Then I got a real Winchester that had a big loop lever on it that had been rebarrelled to .44 Magnum. (Started life as a .38-40) Anyway, the next time that I used the Rossi, I realized that compared to reworked ASM and the Winchester, I realized that the Rossi was not as nice as I thought it should be. So, I had Happy Trails give it a once over to smooth it out. Now, it's great.
Since then, I've gotten another real Winchester in .32-20. This one is just sweet.
My most recent 92 is a Chiappa Take Down Mares Leg in .44-40. Right out of the box, as smooth as the .32-20.So, 92's are great guns. Vintage Winchesters are the best, Chiappas are a close second. Pre-Safety Rossis are "okay," but need some minimal work. The Armi San Marco should be avoided.
I did buy my brother a Rossi, with the safety in .357 Magnum. It wasn't as nice as my older Rossi, so I had an action job for it. My brother thought it was nice.
No idea what the no safety Brownings or Japanese Winchesters with the tang safety are like.-
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16 minutes ago, LEFTY MCDAVIS said:
Probably a dumb question, but what did everyone switch to after TrailBoss went extinct?
I used it till I ran out.
Had some Win231, and it lists loads for .45 Colt.
Double charged a couple cases and lost 2 guns friends were using.
Nobody's fault but mine, but I am hesitant to keep using it.-
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5 hours ago, Currahee said:
Asked HSM ammunition who makes their .45 colt brass, don't think they will answer.
My HSM ammo has Starline brass
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Well, after reading about them for years, I was finally able to acquire a Winchester 94 in .44 Magnum,
As you can see, it's one of "old" ones that Winchester made between 1967 and 1972. I have never been a fan of this style front sight, but that's what Winchester was putting on their guns at that time, so, it is what it is.
The action compares favorably to my other pre-83 94 in .30-30, and is even respectable compared to my pre-64 one in .32 Winchester Special. Nowhere near as smooth as a 92, but it was not at all "clunky" and seemed to lever rather quickly from my perspective. The "long throw" didn't bother me any. Of course, that's with an empty gun. I don't have any snap caps to run through it....
Anyway, I plan to do an "apples to apples" comparison by shooting half a match with this gun, and half a match with my Rossi 92 in the same caliber. I am reasonably certain that the 92 will be "better" but I think it'll be fun to give the 94 a try. I know this'll never be a "go to" gun for CAS, but I think it's a nice one to have in the collection, and will make for a fun plinker from time to time.And yes, while I don't own one, the action is noticeably superior to any post 83 94 I've ever handled. Which I admit is not a lot, but I'd say about a dozen or so.
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21 hours ago, Michigan Slim said:
I'll buy you lunch when you are here!
I may just take you up on that...
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I use Trailboss for...
.32 S&W
.32 S&W Long
.32-20
7.65 Nagant.38 S&W
.38 Short Colt
.38 Long Colt
.38 Special
.357 Magnum
.44 Special
.44-40
.44 Magnum
.45 ACP/Autorim
.45 Colt
.50-50 Spencer
.30-30
.30-40
.30-'06
7mm Mauser
8mm Mauser
.410 Shotshells using .444 Marlin Brass
.45-70
Might not be the best for any of them, but you can use it effectively in all of them. It is also impossible to overcharge a case with Trailboss.
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4 minutes ago, Rancho Roy said:
It just recently showed back up on shelves here in New England. A fantastic all around powder that can be used in just about everything from 38sp to 38-40 to 44-40 to 45ACP to 38-55 to 45-70.....a great Cowboy powder
Which one and where?
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Well, I am gonna be in Ft Wayne Indiana in a couple of months. That's about half way between Boston and Utah. Can I meet you there?
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4 minutes ago, Rex M Rugers #6621 said:
I have had a couple of lbs of Trail Boss taking up space in my powder cabinet for several years. Wish I knew some sub-sonic shooters in my area.
Rex
I'll take it off your hands if you don't want it.
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This may be a viable answer for you.
You can put 1860 Army Grips on a Single Action Army. This'll give you larger grips on the SAA frame.
You'll probably need to get grips from the same maker to insure everything lines up, but it does work.
This is my "Big Iron" pistol. It's an Armi San Marco SAA clone with Pietta 1860 grips.
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Colt Lightning help ID and value update, it works fine, found colt letter
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How did you get the slide to open? I am curious.
Have you test fired it? How's the bore?