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  1. 13 minutes ago, Chili Ron said:

    And the half dollar is what they should KEEP. 

    Why?

    What purpose does it serve?   When was the last time you actually used one?

     

  2. I just recently  found this, and it was of interest to me.

    homestate

     

    I noticed All 50 States Available!  

    With an exclamation point no less, and thought, "Cool!  I can get one for my home state."

     

    And the price is not unreasonable.


    Then I read this...

     (Not available in California or Massachusetts.)

     

    Sigh...   The Mass edition IS orderable.   But it looks like no one will be getting one, least of all me.

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  3.  

    From the Handbook

    "Five-shot revolvers may load five rounds, but the hammer must rest on a dummy chamber or safety slot/pin in the cylinder to avoid the hammer resting on a live round/cap."

     

    Based on this sentence, I assume that if you have a 5 shot revolver with no slot, pin, that you would load it with 4 rounds and not rest the hammer between the rims of 2 cartridges.   In that case, you'd have to load the 5th shot on the clock.

    (Considering a purchase, and want to make sure I know what I'm getting in to.)

  4. Pennies should only be produced on an as needed basis, not automatically every years.   When the "stockpile" gets below a certain level, that's when a few more should be minted to bring it back up to needed levels.   (Whatever that may be.)  Circulating pennies should just be left in circulation instead of "recalled" for recycling.   So does this mean new pennies will be made every 3 to 5 years?  Who can say.

    While we are at it, let's do away with the dollar bill to encourage the use of the dollar coin and the $2 bill.

    Let's also do away with the 50 cent piece.

    And bring back the $500 bill.  

  5. .38 Super is a great caliber.   So much better than 9mm.   And, after .45 ACP, it's the one caliber that, to me at least, says, "I belong in a 1911 type gun."  I think every 1911 fan should own at least 1 .38 Super.   (I inherited my Dad's Commander in the caliber.   I really want a full size one.)

    That being said, a comparable Colt .45 would cost you about $800 to $3000 depending on "factors."  Easiest way to do it, I'd guess, is find a .45 in similar condition/vintage, and see what they are going for.   I don't think the caliber affects the price all that much one way or the other.  The big question is if the finish is factory or aftermarket.  The former helps, the latter hurts.

    Whatever the price, if you don't want to part with a pistol of the same quality/value, offer to help him find a .45 he likes and pay for it.  Then he can sell you the .38 for a dollar.

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  6. 11 minutes ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said:

    The .480, other than the rim diameter, I think would do fine. You may have extraction issues.

     

    That's what I was thinking.   The .480 would give extraction problems.   The .475 would work, and while it would not have to be trimmed as much as the .45-70, it's a lot more expensive for the brass.

    Still, it is something to consider.

  7. Ah!   I had not considered the possibility that some other existing case might actually be what I am looking for.   I shall do the research!

    Here's what I am doing.    I was trying to "develop" a sub load for use in my single shot .45-70 rifles.   Started out by trimming cases to ,45 Colt length, and loading them to .45 Colt pressures with a 300 grain bullet.   Works pretty good.  On a whim, I tried running them in my repeating rifles, and to my surprise, they worked!   They worked well enough in a vintage 86 Winchester, and quite flawlessly in a large frame Lightning.

    I even had Lee make me some custom dies.

    So, this is a kind of "project" for me.  It's 100% for fun and has no practical application, but it is something I am enjoying.    I have even toyed with the idea of trying to figure a way to get a revolver in caliber, (I was calling it .45-45) something other than those behemoths chambered for .45-70.    Yeah, I could obviously use the round in those, but the mind is a funny thing.

    Thanks for all the suggestions.   New possibilities are opening up.

     

  8. 18 minutes ago, Idaho Gunslinger said:

    Can I ask what these are for?

     

    You could always get one of those electric case trimmers and do it yourself. Likely the most time consuming option but probably the cheapest. 

    I wonder if this could be done with a Dillon press mounted case trimmer. 

     

    Lyman Universal Case Trimmer Power Adapter

    Heh heh.   That's how I've been doing it.  :)   But after a few cases, my wrists start to hurt....  

     

  9. I have a need for some customized brass.   Basically, I want some .45-70 trimmed to .45 Colt length with no other modifications.   Don't care about the headstamp.

    I've contacted a few folks I've found online whose websites indicate that they MIGHT do it, so I asked.  So far, no responses.  Except for Starline who said they can't do it right now.  Maybe in the fall.  Minimum order of 100,000 pieces.  

    I don't need THAT much...

    I am looking for 500 to 1000 cases.   I know that in some ways, that's not a lot, but it is just trimming an existing case that is easy to get.   Yes, I can do it myself, but it's a tedious process.   

    Anyone have any suggestions?

  10. On 12/4/2024 at 9:47 AM, Currahee said:

    I see that SKB is now made in Turkey.  What should I shop for if looking for a high quality 12 ga. double (used)?

    thanks,

    C.

     


    High Quality
    Used.

    Parker.

    And you don't have to spend $10,000 plus.

    If you look hard enough, you can find a good shooter for less than $2000.   Maybe less than a $1000.   I got a 12 gauge for $800 in 2019 and an 20 gauge for $1800 in 2022.   Both were Trojans.   Both are in excellent mechanical condition.  The 12's barrels are still blue, but the receiver has no finish left.   The 20's finish is better, with some good remnant of the case hardening on the frame and faded, if still blue, barrels.   

    Neither is a "museum piece," but both are honest shooter.

    Some will say Parker's are "too nice" for our game.   I say hogwash.   Sure, you would not want to take a 10 grand+ valued gun out to a match, but ones like mine still get used for hunting and general shooting all the time.   You just can't go wrong with a Parker.

  11. 7 hours ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said:

    They have had the internals re-worked  to allow your finger to touch the trigger without locking up.

    Depending on who wants to buy them, that may help or hurt the value.  For others, it might not matter.   Assuming everything else about the pistols is in overall good shape, I'd offer you $1000 for the pair, but I'm in the hurt category.

    Yes, I realize that this is a bit below what these things normally go for on the used market, but I really don't like my guns being so significantly altered from the way they were made.   For the record, I have seen them on the market used, for $800 to $1500 for one, depending on condition, finish, grips and all the other usual modifiers.   But I also live in Massachusetts where used gun prices can be a lot higher for things that you can't legally buy new in this state.   Your milage may vary.   And no, I can't actually make an offer.   Since they are not already legally in the state, they can't be imported.

  12. 5 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said:

    If these are original and not reloads, you might want to look up collector prices & interest.


    They are original.   I found them at a gunshow for $55 a box.  Got two boxes of this, and the box of Remingtons.  Given how hard it is to find this ammo, and how harder it is to find brass, I figured it was a good price.   

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  13. I think it is, but I want to be sure.

    To quote the Handbook...

    REVOLVER AND RIFLE AMMUNITION

    May not be jacketed, semi-jacketed, hollow point, plated, or gas checked.  It must be all lead.  Moly-Disulfide, polymer coated bullets, or equivalents are acceptable.   (Emphasis added.)

    Okay, that lays the groundwork for why I think my ammo MIGHT be legal.  But now, here is the ammo I am wondering about.

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    Okay, the box clearly indicates that the bullets are coated, not jacketed.

    But here's what the bullets look like...

     

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    Okay, the top 2 are some Remington ammo with regular lead bullets, and the lower two are the "coated" ammo.  You can see that some of it is rubbing off, and it is clearly not jacketed, as far as I can tell.  But, it is coppery colored, so it gave me pause.   I have no idea what "Lubaloy" coating is, so I figured I would post this information as ask for a ruling from someone more in the know than I.
     

  14. Over the lifespans of some of our favorite firearms, they have gone through various descriptors that tell us, more or less, when they were made.  Some of these designations are officially recognized by the people that made them, others are terms created by the collector market or that somehow developed organically over time.   Sometimes, some of these designations can be further broken down into sub categories.  Perhaps the most well known ones are the following....

    Colt Single Action Army.
    First Generation  --  Can be further broken down to the so called, "Black Powder" and "Smokeless" frames.  

    Second Generation
    Third Generation  --  Can further be broken down as "early" and "late" variants depending on if the cylinder bushing is removable or not.   (And you can order one with a Black Powder frame.   There is NO 4th generation, in spite of various points in the 3rd generation have been proposed to be the start of the 4th, but Colt does not give them credence.

    Winchester 1894.
    Pre-64

    Post-64

    These are the most common designators.   But Post-64s can be broken down as follows...
    Pre-83

    Post-83
    These designations basically mark the change from top to angle eject.

    Miroku is used for the current Japanese made guns.

     

    Smith & Wesson Schofield
    1st Model
    2nd Model
    And then there are ones that S&W made from 2000 to 2003.   I am not sure what the "official" designation is.   Since it is not really the same as the vintage ones, "3rd Model" would make sense, but as far as I know, Smith & Wesson never called them that.  The only think on the pistols themselves that could be considered a model designation is how the right side of the front sight is stamped "Model 3 Schofield 1875," and the left side is stamped "Performance Center 2000."   They "Letter" as a "Smith & Wesson manufactured replica of the Model 3 Schofield First Model."  Your guess is as good as mine as to what they should be referred to as.   I guess 3rd Model Schofield is as convenient a designator as any.

    So...   Are there any other guns of our era of interest that have different designations that are used primarily to identify when they were made?   They may or not be on common usage, whatever that means.

    If you include Wild Bunch era guns, I suppose you could say M1911 and M1911A1 could broadly count, as could Government Model, Series 70 and Series 80.

     

     

     

     

  15. 6 hours ago, Muley Gil SASS # 57795 said:

    There were only two Schofield models, the difference being the shape of the latch. 

     

    Only two, back in the day.

    There is a 3rd version of the Schofield that came out in the year 2000.   They are variously known as Performance Center Schofields, Schofield 2000s, and Third Model Schofields.   I think the first one is the official designation, but I have seen the other two designations in various places.

  16. I'd strongly recommend you take it to a gunsmith and have the innards carefully cleaned, partly to make sure it's all there, and partly to, well, make sure it's clean enough to fire.

    I recently took a friends 73 to have it repaired.   The smith said there was over 100 years of dirt inside of it in places!   Not the action or the bore, but the magazine tube and the inside of the but stock were incredibly filthy.

     

  17. This is turning out to be an unexpected fascinating thread.   It's been enjoyable to read about the success, or lack thereof, that people have had running Schofields in a .45 Colt chambered 73/66/Henry, Marlin or 92.  Given the number of people that it DID work for, I am likely to try tweaking me load to see if I can get it to work in the lever guns.

    But am I the only one who has tried it with a Lightning?

  18. 1 hour ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:

    The real question is: why would anyone want to run .45 Schofield ammo in a .45 Colt chambered rifle?

    Because I have a Third Model Schofield chambered in, well .45 Schofield.  I know I can run the shorter round in my plethora of .45 Colt revolvers, and it would be nice to be to run it in a rifle so I only need one caliber at a match, instead of two. 

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  19. Well, what is "interesting" is that while with the lever guns, you either need to tweak the gun, or the load, or both, to run the shorter cartridges.   But, to my amusement, the Lightning ran them with no modifications needed.  To be honest, I am curious to try it with the Cowboy .45 Special, but I don't load that one.   

    What prompted me to try this, was how a cartridge I am "developing" a .45-70 trimmed to .45 Colt Length, (I call it the .45-45) works just great in my large frame Colt, but only marginally well in my 86's.  

    It's fun to try new things.

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