H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619

Find a used Colt.

I always like the phrase, "of the era" to refer to things that existed back in the day, and that are still made today. You know, Colts, Winchesters and many other things that are, and are not, legal for use in our game. As far as things that were not made back in the day, but are used in our game, I prefer the phrase "evocative of the era." You know, things like the Ruger, Big Boy and other things that did not exist prior to 1900 but are made in the spirit and style of things that were. Most of which are legal for our game, but there are also a few that are not.

With regards to the Colt style pull to open vs the S&W style push to open. I always preferred the Colt style pull. But then again, I shoot left handed. I find that just moving my trigger finger backwards and pulling on the latch as I go is easier than pulling it back to push it forward. Once again, I saw that many "right handed guns" are actually easier for southpaws to use than the people they were designed for. (With certain limitations...)

Snafu... Situation Normal All Fouled Up Fubar... Fouled Up Beyond All (or Any) Repair (or Recogniton) Tarfu Things Are Really Fouled Up Mel Blanc did indeed do the voices The cartoons themselves were directed by some guys named Bob Clampett, Robert McKimson, Friz Freleng and Chuck Jones.

Good grief! The laughter has just made me realize some very important things! 1. Short strokes are illegal! 2. The 1897 and 1887 shotguns can have their magazines fully loaded on the clock!

I've read they were made in .30-40. Like to have one in that caliber. Or maybe .30-30.

Mine's a 24" Octagon in .32-20. Also made made by Winchester.

Get a factory letter from Colt.

Oooh! Really RETRO packaging! Made with real sugar, I hope?

I've used a Luger at "original Pre-SASS rules" Wild Bunch on occasion, but never have a chance to use my Broomhandles. Did see a few though on occasion, including one in .45. I did however use the above pictured one, with shoulder stock attached, as a "rifle" at a Zootshoot match once, along with a regular one for my pistol. It was a hoot.

I ask a silly question... Why do you need a silencer on a .22?

So is this... Can we have a link to this new Victory model? This is the first I have heard of it.

I recall several posts here in the wire about people using them at SASS matches. Various methods for loading have been discussed such as using dummy rounds to indicate that the next round is live, or something like that. As far as legality goes, that's where the memory gets a little more fuzzy... I *seem* to recall it being said that it was okay. I absolutely do not remember anyone ever saying there was any objection to one being used on when pards showed up with one. More like a chorus of, "Can I try it?" type comments. But the memory is fuzzy.... I might still like to have one.

Ronald Reagan.

Check your local hardware store. That is where I got the wheels for my cart. If they don't have the exact/size you want in store, they may be able to order it. Remember, the wheels are the things that allow you to push the cart over sometimes rough terrain. While the rest of the cart may very well look like something made in 1887 if you want it to be, completely modern wheels may be preferable just so you can move the think when it is weighted down with guns, ammunition, going uphill, over a gravel or dirt path, or any other myriad of things you'll see at the range.

I am gonna guess that .35 is a type for .45. In that case, the answer is yes you would compete against them.

There was an article in the Garand Collectors Association magazine 2 issues ago about someone who shoots 3 gun with an M-1 instead of an M-16 derivative. Got a few odd looks, but everyone thought it was super cool. I even wrote in to the magazine and suggested paring the M1 with a 1911 instead of a Wonder9 and using a M97 Winchester instead of a modern shotgun with an extended magazine to complete the "theme." They printed my response, along with a few other along the same lines. Now, I know of no W3G clubs here in New England. But if there was one, I would like to try it. But you know, nothing in the "regular" 3-gun rules would prevent me from showing up with my S&W New Model 3, Uberti made 66 and my 97 and going to town. Sure, I'd have to reload a lot, but I betcha everyone would think it was awesome....

Whenever I got any kind of a gun, if I didn't already have ammo, I would buy a box or two of new ammo. This was especially true for *some* of my SASS guns, because I couldn't find brass any other way. Not had to do that in a long time though. I have found that even "Cowboy" commercial ammo is much hotter than I like it to be.

I have two M&H revolvers, a pocket, spur trigger model in .38 S&W and a full size in .44-40. Both are neat old guns that are fun to shoot. As Driftwood as said it is quicker to reload a Top Break than a Merwin, but the Merwin IS quicker than a Colt. To an extent. Driftwood will also tell you that it is is very easy for some shooters (me) to forget about the Merwin's really nifty unloading trick, but I'll let him tell you about that. (Assuming he remembers) An interesting thing about the Merwin is that the action is identical to the S&W New Model 3, to the point where parts are interchangeable. This has been confirmed to me by more than one gunsmith as well as the evidence of my own eyes. I seem to recall another gun that used the same innards, but can't remember what it was. So, while the ejection method was unique and interesting to look at, the rest of the design was pretty standard for its day.

I have several riles that I use... A (real) Henry, 66, 73, several 92's, a Spencer and a Lightning. I enjoy them all, but the Lightning is my personal favorite. (Go fig) I did get a chance to use a .38 Big Boy at a match recently when I had a problem with my own rifle. I found it to be be a little awkward, loading like a .22, and the action was, to me, a little clunky feeling. In spite of that, it worked the way it was supposed to, and I never had any problems with it. It was also accurate as all get out, which impressed me. The only real drawback I experienced was hot gasses burning my right wrist upon brass ejection. (I shoot left handed.) I assume the Marlin has a similar problem for those of us of a sinister nature (look it up) but I do not know from experience. Bottom line; based upon actually SHOOTING a Big Boy, I found it to be functional, but something that did not appeal to me for various reasons.

Well, you could always track down and install a centerfire conversion bolt....

wow...

I load both with 200 grain bullets and an identical charge of powder. With smokeless I observe no significant difference in similar guns. When I load up for lotsa smoke, the .45 does have a bit more snap than the .44. That's a nice, practical, unscientific comparison!

New York is NOT a part of New England. There is therefore no such thing as a NY Yankee. (Other than that improperly named baseball team)

No dog in this fight, as I am not interested in trying it, but it does sound like fun for those who are interested. But I would like to offer some questions and/or comments. 1. There is nothing to prevent someone who likes the costume aspects of "steampunk" from dressing that way if they want to, unless they were shooting in a different costume category with specific requirements. 2. It could be argued that steampunk could be a part of B Western, especially since Best of the West is mentioned. 3. Since part of the idea of steampunk is to take late 1800's technology to its practical extreme, that is to say pushing the limits of what was possible, or at least theoretically possible, it seems to me that a requirement for a repeating shotgun (97 or 87) would make more sense than allowing any SASS legal shotgun. (Other firearms options would require this to be a sidematch instead of something that can be done as an option at a main match, so I will not voice them) 4. I think this is a great idea for an unofficial category and look forward to seeing it from time to time. 5. Why no gunfighter style? 6. There is no idea/question number 6. 7. Would a traditional cowboy hat be considered legitimate for this category? "Any Victorian head gear constructed of Felt, Straw, cloth or leather. Including but not limited to: Pith helmets, Military caps, Deer Stalkers, and leather flight helmets." That would seem to indicate that it is. Key words being "any," and "not limited to," suggests it would. But for some reason I am wondering. 8. I have to admit that I have never seen anyone dressed up steampunk. (Perhaps I am unlucky) How popular is it in "reality?" Is to more of a regional thing? 9. I wonder if there is any way to involve real steam into the category. (Well, not really, but it would be cool to see steam coming out of someone's hat.)