H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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1 hour ago, Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 said:
kind of a play on Pale Rider. He carried one gun (a 58 remington with conversion cylinders) and he had his small gun (a 63 with conversion cylinder, and a custom trigger guard). Nice!
I was thinking the "The Big and the Small" but I suppose anything is possible.
It occurs to me that something like the Cimmaron Model P Jr. that comes with both .32-20 and .32 H&R Magnum cylinders could just be used with the H&R cylinder shoot .32 S&W's but that doesn't really fit the "custom modification" idea.
Man... Now I have to start thinking up parody lyrics for the song.
Everyone asked about his business
Everyone gave him lots of lip.
The Stranger there among them had a small iron on his hip.
Small iron on his hip....-
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There were two episodes that I can think of off the top of my head where he got to use his swordsmanship skills, both in the first (and best) season. (The one in black and white.) In one of them, he get's into a sword fight with the guy who played Kang on Star Trek, Michael Ansara., as part of a contest between their sons. (It makes sense in context)
The other was the first season finally where the ghost of an alien dictator has sort of taken over his body and he uses a sword to fight with Major West.
Both scenes are very well choreographed.-
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Okay, I am sure many of you recognize this...
...my infamous "Big Iron" pistol based on the Wikipedia description of the pistol that inspired the Marty Robbins song, "Big Iron." This one is made of an Armi San Marco frame, Pietta 1860 grips, a cut down Rossi 92 octagon Barrel, and is a .45 colt.
Now, for various reasons, I have suddenly been contemplating what would the opposite of this be? What would be a "Small Iron?" I am thinking something similarly customized. But how? What caliber should it be? What kind of grips? How long or short should the barrel be?
Random ideas in my head are suggesting the following....
Still on an SAA type frame, I am thinking birds head grips, a 3" barrel, but still with an ejector, so not a Sheriff's model, and a customized caliber of .25-20, The barrel would be perhaps fashioned from a round rifle barrel, cut down to length so that it has the right bore size. (I have seen some pretty worn finish looking barrels on e-bay for cheap but that still have decent rifling/bores) Maybe.
This is all a random thought at the moment, and I have no idea if I will actually do it. But in the next few days, I'll reveal what gave me the idea. Until then, thoughts on the matter? I know it's a rather silly idea, and for the record, the donor pistol will be something that has seen better days to begin with. No way I'd do this to a pristine Colt, for example.-
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You can probably sell that gun for more than the cost of a replacement in the exact configuration you want.
Also, since you have the shoulder stock, shortening the barrel a short barreled rifle makes. You'd run afoul of NFA '34.
How much do you want for it, as is?-
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Levi, thanks for posting. While I am a little bummed to learn than my USFA is an Uberti parts gun, (I really thought the lack of the safety thing and other obvious differences from the USPFA one indicated otherwise) it doesn't really bother me all that much. It's still a nice gun, and it has some interesting history to it. So that makes it worth knowing about. Oh how I wish again there was a way to "document" these things.
But no matter. In fact, learning that the gun is "in the white," has made me start to think about maybe having it engraved and perhaps nicely finished somehow. Or not. It's nice to know that there are options.Thanks again for sharing your expert knowledge.
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Looks like a cool rifle. Granted, I've never heard of the brand, but it does look nice.
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4 minutes ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:
I prefer the Commander model myself.
I like the full size grip and the shorter slide .
I own all kinds of 1911's .
I carried one for years .
Then I finly got a Commander and I knew it was the right fighting gun for me .
Rooster
If I was gonna carry, it'd be a full size 1911. I have a few of those. I also have a Commander in .38 Super that I'd not hesitate to wear on my hip.
But I really wanted the Officers for concealed carry. I've been carrying a Colt Mustang .380, but, well this may sound silly, but given all the bovine excrement that's been happening of late, I found myself thinking that I wanted something with more punch, but still small enough to be carried in my pocket. The Officer's Model came back to my mind, and since I knew where one was that was for sale, I grabbed it.-
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1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said:
Could you post that video and let us know how the spring and guide works. Thanks.
This is the video that helped me
It's not an actual Officer's Model, but something similar, but the "issue" is the same.
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I have a non-folding one.
These things really should be SASS Legal, but they aren't.
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I always thought it was BURR-juss
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I guess this is as good a time as any to mention that the box my pistol came in is not the original. For one thing the box clearly says the pistol inside is a 7-1/2" barrel. Mine is 5-1/2.
But all of this has led me to be more curious about the specifics of my pistol.
Oh how I wish USFA, if it had to die, had sent its records to Cody, or SOMEONE who could use them to share information with us. Alas, it seems it is not to be.
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When they first came out a long time ago, I really wanted a Colt Officer's Model. You know, the "compact" 1911 with a 3.5" barrel and grip that is a bit shorter and that uses therefore shorter magazines, holding one less round than a "full size" 1911, but is still a .45, giving you some good punch in a (large) pocket pistol.
Well, I finally obtained one after decades of wanting one.
I really like it.
Mostly.I assume for reasons relating to its smaller size, it doesn't take down exactly the same way as a 1911. No matter, I got it apart with only a minor problem; I had to chase the recoil spring across the room after it popped free of the frame.
But then I tried to put it back together. This was... a challenge. Suffice it to say that it is not an easy task. With the recoil spring under tension, it does not want to go back together. EVERYTHING must be aligned PERFECTLY, or it's a no go. I had to find a Youtube video to see if there was some kind of a trick to it. There is, sort of. Make sure you align everything perfectly. By the time I got the pistol back together last night before going to bed, my fingertips were all sore, and in fact, they still are.
Don't get me wrong, I am still glad I have this pistol, and yes, it will fit in my pocket, but man, Colt didn't think parts of the design through very well. The video I watched pointed out that there is an after market spring and guide that makes this all much easier, and I just might obtain it. After I put on an ambidextrous safety and an arched mainspring housing. (But not one with a lanyard loop, they don't exist.)
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I had always been a Winchester guy, partly because I shoot rifles left handed. That is one of the reasons I will not even consider a Post 83 Winchester. The angle eject just ruined the gun for me. And then they made it worse with the crossbolt safety. The tang safety is "better" than the crossbolt, but it's still wrong. What was wrong with the half cock notch on the hammer?
In case you can't tell, I loathe post 83 Winchester 94's.
But, I do have a very nice pre-83 in my collection. It's a Sears Ted Williams Model 100, but it's really nice. A run of the mill 94 of the era, but these Sears guns had a feature that I think was better than the one actually branded as Winchesters; the front sight. The front sight on the Sears model is a traditional blade front sight, not the hooded, ramped one that Winchester was so enamored with at the time that I personally find very ugly. Now, there are exceptions, there are pre-83 Winchesters with the traditional front sight, and I'd not hesitate to get another one if I found one in a configuration I wanted.
I also have a pre-64 Winchester is .32 Winchester Special. (This cartridge is so similar to the .30-30 that you wonder why it was ever made.) Anyway, this gun is very nice, and is clearly of better quality than the post-64 but still pre-83 models. If I really wanted another 94 in .30-30, I'd more than likely look for one of these with a 24" octagon barrel, as both of my other 94's are saddle ring carbines with round barrels.
Oh, I also have a pre-83 94 in .44 Magnum. It's a lot better than its reputation.
All of that being said, I recently acquired a Sears JC Higgins Model 45 (AKA the Marin 336C) in .30-30. It has no stupid safeties. I have to admit that the action is much smoother than even my pre-64 94. I have not fired it yet, but I will eventually. I might have to admit that it's the better gun, but if I had to choose between the Winchester and the Marlin, well, I'd still go with the Winchester, for personal preferences reasons.
So when it comes to getting a .30-30, Marlin vs Winchester is very much a "what do you prefer" type decision. If you wanna go for quality, go with a pre-64 Winchester or a pre-safety Marlin 336. If wanna go for price, a pre-83 Winchester is probably the best way to go. A pre-safety Marlin in an alternative, but they tend to be more expensive on the used market for whatever reason.
Would not touch a new production one of either.-
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16 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:
USFA USA Made revolvers are beautiful built guns .
But to pay more money for a Colt clone then you can buy a Colt for will never make sense to me .
No matter what it will never say Colt on the barrel.
And that is just money in the bank IMHO .
They both are beautiful revolvers and I would be proud to own either one .
Congratulations on your find .
Rooster.
Rooster, you are correct that they will never be a Colt. I can remember when USFA was still around how lotsa people chimed in about how it was silly to buy a copy of the Colt when a real Colt cost the same price, no matter how well made the copy was. It'll never hold its value was a common refrain.
Well, for whatever reason, reality didn't work out that way. USFA pistols can now sell for MORE than a contemporary Colt. We may agree that is this strange, but it is how things have developed. I think it's an excellent example of supply and demand. USFA is gone, and there ain't never gonna be no more, so the supply is fixed. But demand is still high. It is inevitable that their prices inflate.
To be honest, given what I have seen these pistols actually selling for, I think I got a very good deal on both of them. And of course, when I become a famous person, their value will only go way up more.
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Yes, the USFA serial number starts with CC. CC2xx
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For some unknown reason, I have recently become interested in single barrel shotguns. Part of the reason may be that they seem to be rather inexpensive compared to other things, but also they just seem to be intriguing to me.
Now, yes, there are a lot of different things that fall into this category. I have a Greener built on the Martini action, and a Remington Rolling Block, but what I am really starting to be curious about are the break open shotguns that work the same way as a side by side, but with only one barrel. There are many vintage guns that fit this category out there, and they all seem to have unique variations on the concept. Over the years there were everything from simple entry level guns to really fancy things, and everywhere in between. And many of them can be had for really short money, but that does not mean that they were cheaply made.
So far I have obtained a Hopkins and Allen that I found on the "junk pile" at a local shop that I got for 50 bucks. I bought it cuz it looked like it was all there. I scrubbed off some light surface rust with Hoppes #9, and sure enough, the gun is fully functional.
I shot a match with it, and had a lot of fun.
More recently I got a Webley Model 100 for $150
I have not fired this one yet, but I will do so soon. It seems to be an "entry level" gun when compared to some of their more well known high grade stuff, but I like it. Sadly the records for the Webley shotguns are "a mess" according to the folks who have them, so I was unable to letter it.
Now, yesterday, I found a Winchester 37 for $125 that I did not buy because I am temporarily short on funds, but I very well may be getting one of these in the near future. Clearly a simple gun, but well made. In fact the shop also had a Stevens, a Savage, and a Hopkins and Allen like mine, all for less than $150 each. 12 and 16 gauge, so who knows what I'll get next?
Anyway, I don't know what it is, but something about this type of gun is starting to appeal to me. Time will tell if I get anything more, but these guns sure are interesting to look at. -
3 hours ago, Dutch Nichols, SASS #6461 said:
US Patent guns are 100% Uberti parts and command not much more than an Uberti. The rub is some crooked sellers try to sell them as the Original USFA and ask for outrageous prices! Some ignorant buyers will pay it not knowing any better. These guns were built when Uberti was known for their soft steel,
Put it on Gunbroker and let the price land where it will.
Dutch, I will not dispute anything you said, but I will add the "proviso" that they are a part of the USFA story. Yes, they are Uberti pistols, and as such should be priced as Uberti pistols, but *perhaps* one can say that they can command a *small* premium for the USFA connection. When I bought my USPFA pistol, it was sold as a Uberti, and priced as one. When I got it home and saw the USPFA wording on top, I was pleasantly surprised. When I mentioned it to the gun shop owner I bought it from, he basically said that I lucked out on it, implying that if he had realized what it was, he would have charged more for it. How MUCH more, I did not ask. I suppose you can look at the USPFA Uberti pistols as being a "rare for Uberti" variant that can go for a little more, but they should not be commanding the same premium as a "real" USFA. -
5 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said:
H. K.
Your local guy did a marvelous job. Too Cool you betcha. Congratulations for the repair and also congratulations for now having a matching PAIR!!
This is by far the most "complex" thing he has done for me. Other work has been more run of the mill work like fixing the timing on things, action jobs, "regular" repair work of the type you expect on old guns like ours, and the like. He also converted a .32 Rimfire Rolling Block to .32 S&W for me. He's even done some wood work for me, such as the pistol grip stock on my 86 Mare's Leg, and recreating a front stock for my Rolling Block pistol, and the fitting of a full shoulder stock onto my Mann device. He really can do a lot of general gunsmith work.
I've never used him for any "restoration" work, but considering how good of a job he has done for me on all this other stuff, I may consider it. I have a 94 Marlin that I've talked about here on the Wire that had it's finish scrubbed off by a previous owner. I am toying with the idea of having him refinish the gun instead of going to Turnbull, IF I decide to have it done.
I guess the highest praise I can give him is that he seems to be every bit as competent at fixing things as Happy Trails was before he retired. -
Ditto on the spacer stick. It really helps. And, oh yeah, keep it IN your rifle when not in use or you will lose it.
As far as the sling swivels go, I don't even notice them. I did get a replica sling for it, but the front hook, is just that, a hook through the eye on the barrel. Tends to fall out. So, I took the sling off.-
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Earlier this year, I acquired a Uberti-USPFA for $615. Today I acquired a USFA for $1400. Take that for what it's worth.
Having the box and stuff probably adds a little value, but how much, I could not say. On the one hand, the early USPFA are rarer as they were not made for very long. But on the other, they are Uberti pistols.
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1 hour ago, Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L said:
Needs the before and after
I sent Sergey permission to post and sent the before and after pics to him.
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This is unfortunate, but not a surprise. Wish it WAS a surprise.
GUNS magazine will always be special to me, it's how I learned about Cowboy Action Shooting. In the late 80's/early 90's, while on a family vacation, I saw a copy of the latest issue on the magazine rack in the rest stop (Remember those?) and it had a picture of a Winchester 71 on the cover. So, I bought it. Inside there was an article about (what I remember as) "End of the Trail" shooting. I found it intriguing.
Wish I still had that issue.-
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10 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said:
Mist impressive repair. Congratulations H.K.
Thanks. I am quite pleased with the work.
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Eyesa, try again! You responded before I could fix the mistake!
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Not The Big Iron, The Small Iron!
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Well, that's interesting, but, I don't wanna go THAT crazy.
For what it's worth, I do own a Sheriff's model 1877 in .38 Colt, but that's not the direction I want to go.
I want it to still be practical, and probably SASS Legal. Yeah, .25-20 is not an approved caliber, but .32 S&W is. So that might be the cartridge to go with. But just as the Big Iron is a customized SAA, so should the Small Iron be. The birds head grips, to me at least, actually create an illusion of smaller. I know cuz I have Uberti that came with them, and I replaced them with regular ones cuz I didn't like the look. But for this project, they might be the way to go.
Now, part of my problem, of course, is that I live in Massachusetts, so my options are very limited. I have to find something already in the state that I can make the modifications to. I could use a 1st or 2nd Gen Colt that is in terrible shape and take it from there. Or perhaps one of the clones in my collection, but I purchased them to get them in the configuration they are currently in, so I'm not sure I wanna go that way either. I suppose I could keep the .45 caliber and just shorten the barrel and put on the grips, that would be a way to keep the costs down. On the other hand, I was thinking that, if I do this, it would cost more than a few dollars. Now, if I had a old beat up .32-20, I could perhaps have the cylinder sleeved to .32 S&W or .32 Colt, and just shorten the barrel. That would be another "easy" way to do it. Many options exist. But I really do think that the donor gun can't be a real Colt. I just can't bring myself to do that.