[22 Wranglers]

Wranglers....

Didn't Tex have a low opinion of people who wore them?

Or are you talking about a pistol made by Ruger?

[Gunshows are fun, except when they are irritating.]

 

Other issues aside, "Mass compliant" means that in order to be sold a handgun must be on the "approved list."   To get on the list, it must be able to pass various Massachusetts mandated safety tests.   This of course applies to new guns.   Used guns on the list are also okay.

But, if the gun is not on the list, it can not be sold here.   This applies to guns made after 1998.   However, for guns made prior to 1998, you still have to be able to prove that it was registered in the state prior to 1998, or it can not be sold here either.   If you happen to own guns not on the list, or pre 1998's that  were not in the state, you can bring them with you if you move here, but it is somewhat ambiguous as to if you can sell them or not.

This is why used guns are more expensive here.   

But see, every dealer KNOWS what is and is not Mass Compliant.   So, I really don't know why they'd bring things to a gunshow they know they can't sell.

 

[Gunshows are fun, except when they are irritating.]

Went to a gunshow today.   Was surprised to see a USFA SAA clone for a reasonable price.   

"I'd like to buy that gun."

"Sorry, it's not Mass compliant."

Went to another booth.   Saw an Uberti Buntline.

"I'd like to buy that gun."

"Sorry, it's not Mass compliant."

Why do dealers bring things to a gunshow in Massachusetts that they can't sell?

[Lightning]

47 minutes ago, Cholla said:

Yes, they strengthen the receiver to handle to extra stress. 

 

I guess that makes sense.   But I wish it at least had traditional sights and stocks. 

Got a link for the video?

[Lightning]

.44 Magnum?   That would be of interest to me.   

Pedestal...   

Assuming that is a typo for Pedersoli, I googled .44 Magnum Lighting Shot Show and found this...

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/shot-2025-pedersoli-makes-pump-action-rifles-great-again-44818438

 

Sadly, it looks like the .44 Magnum is only available in a modernized version of the gun, and not a regular one.

Bummer.

[Taylor’s Made In The USA ‘73]

1 hour ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said:

https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/1886-journey-rifle-19-45-70.html

I got one of these...

https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/1886-tc86-takedown-16-5-45-70-lc1-220100.html

 

It is currently being "customized."   It's getting conventional sights, the forestock is being replaced with a standard size one instead of the fat one it does have, the stock is being cut to be just a pistol grip, and the lever loop is being enlarged.   In otther words, it'll be what the Mare's Leg should have been. 

Won't be SASS Legal, but it'll be FUN.

I'll also have a non cut shoulderstock to use it as a short rifle if I want to.   Not crazy about the muzzle cap, but not much I can do about that.

[Taylor’s Made In The USA ‘73]

Y'know, .45 ACP would make more sense than 9mm...

[H&R Lever .357 Rifles coming soon]

1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:

Not sure, but don't think PWB has received an answer to that.

 

I seem to recall PWB commenting in another thread recently that the threaded barrel is a no no, even with the cap on.

 

[M7 South East Open Matches. Which ones are you going to compete in?]

17 hours ago, Captain Bill Burt said:

I hope you can join us at some point. 

 

Maybe I'll be able to finagle my way to one of them.   At least 3, I don't think I can get enough time off work.

Would love to do all seven, but man, that would mean loading up a lot of ammo!   Maybe when I am retired...

[H&R Lever .357 Rifles coming soon]

Looks like a Rossi to me with that bolt top safety.

Why do new companies insist on calling themselves the same thing as long defunct ones and then not bother to recreate what their namesake was famous for?

Looks like they are not doing a more traditionally designed one either.

[Taylor’s Made In The USA ‘73]

19 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:

Here it is on Taylor's website: https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/tc73-rifle-18-9mm-tuned.html 

 

Seems a little pricey but Made In USA is worth it to some.  Looks to me like a hacksaw to the muzzle would make it SASS legal.

 

Check the barrel length.

I have one of their 16.5" 86's with with the threaded barrel.   I thought about cutting off the threads, but the are .5" long, and that would take the length of the barrel, theoretically, to exactly 16".   I don't wanna risk the wrath of the ATF over the barrel being 1/16th" too short.

It would be nice if there was a smooth cap to make it look better, but dang it, the cap is on there so tight that I can't get it off!

[M7 South East Open Matches. Which ones are you going to compete in?]

Well, when I saw the title of this thread, I had no idea what it was about.   When I saw M7, the first thing that popped into my head was the bayonet for the M-16.   

Then I read the thread and saw it was about certain bit matches down in the heart of Dixie.

But I am wondering, how did the seven matches listed come to be referred to as "The Magnificent Seven?"

[Problems with Trail Boss's consistency?]

4 hours ago, El Sobrante Kid said:

 

One banana, two banana, three banana, four, ...

Four bananas make a bunch there isn't any more.

[Problems with Trail Boss's consistency?]

4 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:

 Maybe but not as much as I complain about  the price of NANNA SPLITS🍨

 

Tra la la

La la la la

Tra la la

La la la la

If you know, you know.

 

[Problems with Trail Boss's consistency?]

3 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:

 Why is it that for years TB has been used with no issues posted. Now we hear of issues ? Humans😉

 

Actually, people have been complaining about TB for as long as I can remember.   Some folks, like me, love the stuff and say so.  Others have a very negative view of it for various reasons, and have said so.   It seems to be a love it or hate it kind of powder.

[Problems with Trail Boss's consistency?]

12 hours ago, watab kid said:

I have to ask, is this the new Trail Boss or the old?

 

I gotta ask, what new Trail Boss?

I sent Hodgdon an e-mail asking about, mentioning how people are seeing it Australia.

I got a response saying that it's an "active SKU" but that they have not been able to source any and hope to get it back on the market soon.

 

I am sad to say that I think it's been discontinued, but they don't wanna admit it.

[Problems with Trail Boss's consistency?]

I've never had problems with it.   I always measure every charge.  If it's giving you problems, I'll gladly take it off your hands.

[Cimmaron 1887 shotgun]

The 87 is a great gun.

I have an original Winchester, and a Chiappa "Terminator" one.   I also got a standard stock for the second one, giving me an 18.5" barrel one in standard configuration.   My Winchester has 30" barrels.

The Chiappa a great out of the box, but I did feel that the trigger return spring was bit too heavy, so I replaced it with a lighter one.   That's the only mod I have made.   I am not sure who makes the Cimarron, so I won't hazard a guess.

Once you learn how to use it, the 87 is a lot of fun to shoot.

[Remington "58" timing? edit: shot w/BP]

Ah....    Pics....

 

From top to bottom...

Petta .45.
Uberti .45
Remington .38

Uberti .38
(Uberti Remington 75 .45)
Uberti .38.

[Remington "58" timing? edit: shot w/BP]

I have three 58's.  Two Uberti's that I converted with Kirst cylinders and a real Remington with a factory conversion.  All three of them had the same timing issues that I shall now describe.   When you cock a single action revolver, it should rotate 1 chamber.   All three of these pistols had a tendency to rotate 1 and half chambers, mostly when you cock it really fast..   Since it happened with both reproductions and an original, I tend to think that it is a design flaw.  I asked the gunsmith who fixed the timing issues, and he confirmed that this is a common problem and that it IS a design flaw, but he did know how to fix it.   These are all .38's
  
I do have a 4th 58, this one is also a Uberti, and it came with both a cap and ball and a Holland style conversion cylinder from the factory.  It's actually a commemorative issue one.   It does not have timing issues and I have a feeling it was tuned by someone to work correctly.  This one is .44/.45

And a 5th one, also a .44/45 with a Kirst cylinder.  This one is a Pietta.   No timing issues here either.

[TB Back in Australia]

3 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:

 I loaded up on TB Red Dot and Unique years ago .I should have enough to do all the different games I play till I am done.

   I always say strike while the Iron is hot.

 

Best Wishes

    and

Happy NEW YEAR

 

I haven't seen Red Dot since 2020 either....

[TB Back in Australia]

14 hours ago, Cholla said:

The most recent GUNS magazine has an entire article about the virtues of Trail Boss.

On the one hand that's great!   

On the other, does the article point out it hasn't been available since about 2020?

 

[TB Back in Australia]

Has anyone in Australia confirmed seeing it in a store?

 

[A different kind of Derringer Side Match]

7 hours ago, Griff said:

I have a Great Western derringer in 38 S&W.  It's easy enough to reload and keep it pointed downrange, just grip the bottom of the barrels in the off-hand, unlatch it, swing the grip up, push out the empties, then insert 2 new cartridges, swing the grip back down and latch.  I've only shot it duelist... there ain't enough gun to use two hands, (being the same size as the Remington derringer it was copied from).  

 

 

Sigh....

Every time you mention this derringer, I find myself wanting to buy it from you.   But I know it's not for sale.

I've always wanted a derringer in this caliber.   They exist, but are very hard to find.

 

This is my derringer, an RG17.  Surprisingly well made considering the company's reputation for cheapness.   And accurate enough to shoot soda cans at 15 paces.  It's a .38 Special.   I load it the same way Griff described, and shoot it that way too.

The weird safety is not all that annoying, but does also have a traditional half cock position.  Which it must be in to safely load!  Other than the safety, it is very much similar to an original Remington in style and size.   It was my father's.

 

[TB Back in Australia]

11 hours ago, Dapper Dave said:

I have never used Trail Boss, don't have any in my stash - so why is it so highly rated for CAS? NOT trying to start a war, seriously asking. I use AA#2 and ZIP right now for handgun loads. 

 

What is Trail Boss useful for?

.32 S&W

.32 S&W Long
.32-20
7.65 Nagant
.38 Short Colt
.38 S&W

.38 Long Colt.
.38 Special
.357 Magnum
.44 Special
.44-40

.44 Magnum
.45 ACP

.45 S&W
.45 Colt

56-60 Spencer

 

.30-30

.30-40
7mm Mauser

8mm Mauser

.30-'06  (Bolt Actions.  Have not tried it in the Garand)

.45-60

.45-70 (Trapdoor safe)

 

I have personally used it in all of these calibers, and I am sure it can be used in many more.  It is a very useful caliber.   And, it is basically impossible to overcharge with it.  A double charge of a minimum charge will overflow the case.   And, given it's bright color, it is very easy to see that there is power int he case.

Someone mentioned the Kaboom Club.

THIS is impossible with Trail Boss...



Neither of my friends was hurt using these, thank the Lord.   But it more or less did ruin our outing at a big shoot.   As near as I can guess, a double charge of Win321 is to blame.   That, and my own stupidity.  

I want Trail Boss Back for these two reasons alone.