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  1. This has been a fascinating discussion.   Thank you to everyone for the information.

    I have to admit that after reading all the info here, and the article on Starline's website about it, that I am a little hesitant to look into this caliber.  That might be silly, but I have to be honest.   The only reason that I considered it to begin with was that of all the calibers one can get an 1881 Marlin in other than .45-70, this was the only one that seems to still be around and popular.  I'd still prefer a .45-70, but they seem to be harder to find for some reason.  (And more expensive.)  

     

    But, since I am in no hurry, I'll just bide my time, work up my extra funds, and then pull the trigger when the time is right.

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  2. 2 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said:

    I've shot a lot of these, just never liked them -

     

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    I originally obtained one just cuz I thought they looked cool and wanted to have one.

    The first one I got was the Mark IV .38.   Then I got the Mark VI.  Sadly, like most here in the US, it was "shaved" for .45 ACP.   You can safely download the round for use, but it's a pain to have to do so.   I liked it so much, I got a second one to shoot the pain in Wild Bunch matches.  Then SASS created rules for WB and it became a 1911 only game.   But I didn't care, it was still a cool pair of guns.  A few years later, I found a Mark V with the long barrel.

    Anyway, I'd like to get at least 1 more Mark V in the more traditional short barrel configuration, and preferably still in the original .455 Webley caliber.  Time will tell if and when I can do so. :)

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  3. 7 hours ago, Major Crimes said:

    Also we have WB and some clubs that shoot Webley .455 in an event they call Colonial.

     

    Well, the Webley WAS "The Peacemaker of the British Empire."


    They are cool guns.  I've got 4 of them.  Two Mark VI, one Mark V and a Mark IV .38.   My nephew also has an unshaved Mark VI.  Got letters for all of them

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  4. 2 hours ago, Doc Neeley said:

    Double check on the 1881 Marlin. Originally Marlin didn't want Winchester's name on their rifles so they came up with the 38-56 on early rifles. Completely different cartridge than the 38-55. Later when the 38-55 got much better traction than their 38-56, they began chambering their rifles in the 38-55.

    There was also a .38-56 that the Colt Lightning was chambered for.   From what I have read, it is not the same as .38-55 the way .45-85 was the same as .45-70 just with a much lighter bullet.

  5. I realize that "fun" is a relative term, and it doesn't necessarily mean best or fastest.  

    I myself have 3 single shots, a K Mart 251 20 gauge made by CBC.   It's a fairly "generic" gun and there is nothing special about it.  I also have a pair of 12 gauges.  One is a Remington Rolling Block and the other is a WW Greener made on a Martini rifle action.  Of the three, I'd say the Greener is the "fastest" and before I got the roller, I'd've said it was my "funnest" one, but there is just something oddly enjoyable about shooting a Rolling Block shotgun.  Won't win any speed contests with it, but it is fun to shoot every once in a while.

    So what are some other opinions on what makes for a fun single shot shotgun?

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  6. 6 hours ago, ORNERY OAF said:

    As long as ya don't cut the barrel below 16, it might be fun to shoot, and honestly, most of the stuff I get now days is fun, I'm way past need,lol...

    Oh and loose the top rail,lol...

     

    It comes with a 16.5" barrel, and based on a 73 I have with a barrel of that length, cutting the shoulder part off the pistol grip should still be over 26" total. 

    As far as "why" is concerned, just for the sheer unadulterated fun of it.  :)

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  7. From what I read here on the wire, .38-55 seems to be a fairly popular caliber.   I'd like to ask a few questions about it.

     

    1.  Is the .38-55 that was chambered in the Winchester 94, the same .38-55 that was chambered in the Marlin 1881?

    2.  How difficult is it to get brass?

    3.  Is commercial ammo available?

    4.  Is it true that if all else fails, you can create .38-55 brass simply by running .30-30 through a full length sizing die?

     

    Thank you to those in the know for the answers.

    Reasons why I am asking these questions:  I am considering getting a Marlin 1881.   I wanted one in .45-70, but they seem to be hard to find/super expensive, or both.  Of the other calibers that I have seen listed for this rifle, .38-55 seems to be the one would be the easiest to tool up to reload for, and they seem to be available in this caliber for far more reasonable prices that some others.

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    Well, I believe I have found a way to actually create a Mare's Leg type gun in .45-70.

    Start with one of these from Taylors...

    1886 TC86 Takedown 16.5" .45-70

    https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/1886-tc86-takedown-16-5-45-70-lc1-220100.html

     

    Replace the tachtical sights with more traditional ones, get a second stock and cut the shoulder off pistol grip, being sure to stay over 26" inches overall, and presto!  I "Mare's Leg" in .45-70.  It would serve no practical purpose, but would be a heck of a lot of fun to own and shoot every once in a while. 

     

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  9. I have never sold anything, but over the years, I have bought a few things on Gunbroker.  The caveat is to know what your personal willing to pay price is, and stick to it.

    Bargains?  Hard to find, but not impossible.

    "Good prices?"  More often than you would think.

    Overpriced to the point of insanity?   Absolutely!   Especially if you look at some of the buy it now prices.

     

    The other online site I have used is gunsinternational.com.   I've found some nice stuff there.   That's a non auction site, so you know what is being asked.

  10. My 1888 vintage Winchester has a 30" bbl, and I love it.  I am unusual in that I prefer long barrels on my shotguns.   I also have a Terminator style one with an 18.5" bbl on it, and I did get a standard shoulderstock to supplement the pistol grip one it came with.  But I prefer the longer tube.  I wish the Chiappa's with long barrels had a fixed choke instead of screw ins.  Maybe the ones from Cimarron will have that configuration...

  11. Since cap & ball revolvers are not "firearms" ship them as they were made.

     

    Since conversion cylinders are "parts" ship them separately as such.

    That being said, check with the shipper on the pistols.

  12. 1 hour ago, Three Foot Johnson said:

    As above, for CAS anyway, the reason reloading shotshells is less common is a shooter shoots ~120 rifle/pistol per match and only ~24 shotshells. It's just not worth the effort or expense for most folks, unless you need something specialized - black powder, featherlite loads, 2 1/2"ers, or a particular hull.

     

    Mr. Johnson makes a valid point that had no occurred to me.   Consider the following...

    1.  My father was trap shooter.  I inherited literally thousands of AAs from him.

    2.  For CAS loads, I primarily shoot Magtech all brass, or AA's trimmed to 2-1/2" since some of my older cowboy shotguns have short chambers.

     

    3.  I do occasionally load some black powder shells.

    Those three items, and especially the first one, probably contribute greatly to my tendency to think of shotgun reloading as normal.

  13. Here is an interesting observation.

    While almost all of us reload our pistol and rifle ammo, relatively few of us reload our shotgun ammo.   I base this on two observations.

     

    1.  At every shoot go to, almost no one keeps their empty shotshells to reload them.  They wind up being discarded.   I even have to tell the brass pickers that I want mine back, when I'm not shooting all brass ones.

    2.  Every time something other than 12 gauge comes up, people talk about how hard it is to find ammo in that gauge, something that is not as much of a problem if you roll your own.

    I would have figured that for something like 28 gauge, which I admit to having never even heard of until this thread, would be almost universally a handloading endeavor.  

    Which brings up two questions....

     

    1.  Why is shotgun reloading so uncommon in our game?

     

    2.  Does Magtech make all brass cases in this oddball gauges?

  14.  

    Apparently, Winchester is introducing a new lever action .22 rifle in the $400 price range.

    https://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/ranger/ranger.html

    It certainly *looks* a lot like the old 9422, but that designation is not used, nor is there any reference to that model on the website.   It's got an aluminum frame.  I assume it's as much a cost cutting measure as anything.

    I am not sure of what to think about it.   I think it's great that they are coming out with such a gun, but the aluminum frame gives me pause.   And I am no fan of the front sight, but I didn't "like" them on the old 9422 either, but learned to live with them.  I hope it is a success.  

    Would I buy one?   Tough question.  I've already got a a pair of 9422's, and an Uberti 66 .22, (and a Colt Lightning) so I don't know if I really have a use for one.   I'd not out an out refuse one.   I guess I'd have to hold one in my hands and get a feel for it.

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