H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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4 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said:
Started using RedDot for Ellie's SG. Due to a bad shoulder she needed something lighter than LNLR at 980. I got down to 11gr of RD under 3/4oz of #8. They are running about 650-700 and are powder puff! The surprise to me is how clean they are for a light charge,there is zero debris in the barrel of her 97. Just cleaned after several hundred rounds and the patch was barely brown! Used to use 14gr of ClayDot under 7/8 oz and there was always black debris in the barrel. The knock downs go down just fine for her.
For shotguns, I had been using 16 grains of Red Dot, the same load my father developed for trap. It was great in my long barrel shotguns, but was a bit stout in the short barrel ones. Then I read about a 10 grain load. Tried it. It's light. TOO light, so I upped to 12. That is still nice and light, but not so light as to be a mouse fart.
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Red Dot is a great powder. Seems to be a rare as Trail Boss these days though.
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If you can, try one like this...
Yes, that is a Black Diamond Trap model. My most recent 97 acquisition and my current #1 main match shotgun. It gets just as many stares for being what it is as it does for having the long barrel. Finish may be ugly, but the action is as tight as I have ever seen on one of these guns.-
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The only thing to worry about is the chamber length. They used to measure them differently, and even if they are marked 2-3/4", they might be 2-5/8". In that case, either shoot shorter shells, or have the chamber lengthened. If yours are 1950's vintage, they are prolly okay, but I'd still check.
Or. well, since I shoot 2-1/2" all brass, it doesn't matter.
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"Regular" threads are expressed in so many fractions of an inch. 12 inches equal 1 foot.
"Metric" threads are expressed in so many fraction of something called a "meter." It's supposed to be a little longer than a yard.
I believe "the metric system" was made up by some French guy. -
On 10/4/2024 at 1:35 PM, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:
Bet it's not your regular metric thread.
Isn't that a contradictory term?
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It's really very straightforward...
The only legal pump shotgun is the Winchester 97. It was only ever available in 12 or 16 gauge, never 20, so therefore 20 gauge is not legal for a pump shotgun.
Now, it is true that the Winchester 87 was only ever chambered in 12 and 10 gauge, but there is no rule that says that the 87 is the only legal lever action shotgun. Therefore, if anyone were to theoretically make an exposed hammer tubular magazine 20 gauge lever action shotgun, either an 87 or something else, it would be, at least theoretically, legal.
Why? Because those are the rules as written. We may not like them or think they should be different, or think they are fine as is, but they are the rules and we "agree" to play by them in this game.
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17 hours ago, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said:
Any double action .327 revolver will also fire those rounds. A Ruger SP 101 comes to mind, but Taurus also makes a SS .327 for half the price of the Ruger.
Well, it'll fit .32 H&R Magnum, .32 S&W Long and .32 S&W, but not .32 Long Colt. The dimensions on the Colt are different.
It might be "easier" to just get the rifle, forget about the pistol and just enjoy it. Or, get a Colt Police Positive in the caliber. Not SASS legal, but still a nice gun to shoot. -
3 hours ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:
Okay, first of all, I'll skip the "Why?" on account of I know you well enough that the answer is "beause". SO... I have to assume that those cartridges need the same bore size as 32-20 or why would you ask, since you just said cylinder. So here's my idea, take a 32-20 cylinder and have it bored out and sleeved and chambered in the Long Colt. There's a lot of meat in those cylinders so it should be do-able just dang expensive. Makes me think of the cheap .22's out there, Plinkertons and Heritages, those have cheap Xamax(?) cast barrels and cylinders with steel inserts in the chambers and bores. Anyway, now I can go to sleep.
Why? Because I have obtained some ammo in .32 Long Colt, (for free!) and I wish to shoot it! So, I need a gun. And, if I get one of those Marlins, well, I am closer to a complete battery....
Your suggestion to take a .32-20 cylinder and have it sleeved is a good idea. Might be easier than finding one already in the caliber(s).All this makes me wish I'd not converted my Rolling Block to .32 S&W and just left the chamber alone after converting it from RF to CF.
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Hi, everyone.
I did some checking on the bore size, and that got me to wondering if it might be possible to obtain a cylinder for a 3rd Gen SAA in .32 S&W Long, or even better, .32 Long Colt. I know some fitting would be needed, but this would essentially be a drop in thing that I think would be cool to have. (Ah the ideas that come to you in the middle of the night when the dog wants to go out!)
I suppose I could contact Colt, but I have a feeling they will say no.
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6 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:
Yep I agree , maybe not the worst but Carter is in that group as well as the current one!
Okay, I suppose this a somewhat subjective assessment. But I'll be willing to give the proviso, "Worst of the 20th Century."
As far as some of the others go....
Grant, I think, get's a raw deal. He wasn't a great president, but he wasn't a horrible one either. A lot of things went wrong in his administration, but I am not sure most of it was his fault. He's a solid "mediocre" in my book, much like most presidents.
Polk I really don't know much about, to be honest. He was one in a long line of mediocrity after Jackson and before Lincoln,
Buchannan, yeah, he was very innefective.
LBJ... Not a good President. One of the worst? It is debatable.
Nixon. Nixon again, get's a bad wrap, and any good he did as President is (rightly) overshadowed by the way his tenure ended. That being said, I don't blame him for our present troubles with China. Those, I lay at the feet of Carter for switching recognition from Taiwan to the Communists. Instead of doing this, he should have admitted to reality that there are two Chinas, recognized both of them, and specifically "unrecognized" the claims that they made to each other's territory and encouraged them to do the same.-
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On 9/30/2024 at 9:40 PM, J-BAR #18287 said:
Hamburgers: cheese, mustard, onion, jalapeños.
NO!
You can put whatever you want on your HAMBURGERS. Even jalapanos.
But you can NOT put cheese on a hamburger. Once you do, it is no longer a hamburger. At that point, it is a CHEESEBURGER. You can put whatever you want on it too. But it is something different.-
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On 9/30/2024 at 8:54 PM, Subdeacon Joe said:
Local restaurant suppy shop is running a special on pizza fixing.
LOL!
But, if pineapple, must also have ham.-
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Worst President Ever.
Fairly decent person.I think both of these are fair assessments.
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I need to ask some questions about the Marlin model that can be either .32 RF or .32 CF.
1. Which model is it?
2. Which .32 CF is it chambered for? It is my understanding that it is not .32 S&W or .32 S&W Long. I have a vague recollection of it being 32 Long Colt, but I am not sure.
Now, why, am I asking this?
Well, today my local gunsmith/FFL gave me three small tubs of miscellaneous old ammo. Mostly loose stuff that I am still sorting through, but there is a full box of .32 Long Colt ammo. So.... I got to thinking about that Marlin....
Lotsa interesting stuff in the pile. A couple of handfuls of various .22 RF, but also, a handful of .32 RF ammo of different lengths. There's also some "big" RF ammo in various calibers with no headstamp. A handful of .38-72, 1 round of .30-'03, a couple rounds of what appears to be GI .30-40, some .38 ACP, .35 Remington, .32 S&W, .32 S&W Long, a box of 44-40, some .45 Colt shotshells, a good amount of 6.5 Carcano, along with 3 clips, some made in Finland .30 Russian, 2 clips of 8mm Lebel, some .45-70, a handful of .38 S&W, some marked .38 Colt NP, and some blanks, and 11 rounds marked .380. It's a rimmed cartridge and it looked oddly familiar, and then I realized that it's British .38-200 ammo. (Basically, a hot .38 S&W.) I never thought I'd find any of this, and I am glad I did. There was one round of .50-70, and a curious cartridge marked, "50 CARB." No idea what it is. Also some other ammo similar in size to .45-70, but again with no headstamp, but clearly not the same round. No idea what any of that is either.
And finally, one round of .45-85-285! This is the .45-70 with a much lighter bullet for use in the large frame Colt Lighting rifle. It uses a SMALL rifle primer. This is one I never thought I'd never even see, let alone find. But just one round.. Oh well
Moral of the story, it can pay off to be on good terms with your LGS Owner/Gunsmith.
So, based on all of this stuff it looks like I'm gonna have to buy some more guns.... -
How does one go about shipping smokeless powder legally? I plan to check with the usual suspects, but if anyone knows that there is one of the that won't, or will, that'll give me a better place to start.
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I have been known to say, "I don't remember the line."
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I had a problem with my 66, it's a .44-40. It's failure to fires were caused by a far to lightly falling hammer. Had a heavier one put in, and it's been fine ever since.
Now, as far as .45's being dirty and causing FTF, I had that problem with my AWA Lighting. Flushing the firing pin channel out with Gunscrubber fixed that problem. Maybe that could help you. Gunscrubber is good for getting lotsa gunk out, but then you gotta be sure to properly oil the gun again. -
Aside from Cowboy .45 Special, have any unique cartridges been created for our game? Either modifications of existing ones or something totally new?
The only thing I can think of is taking .32-20 brass and "straightening" it to use in Russian Nagant revolvers as a shortened version of the original Nagant cartridge.
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I once read that he was allowed to compete under his own name without an alias.
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I never understood the point of "Cowboy" dies. Other than the color of the box, how were they different from their regular dies in the same caliber?
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Oh wow.....
Uberti Henry: 24" Octagon, .44-40Uberti 66 Carbine: 19" Round, .44-40
Uberti 66 Rifle 24" Octagon .45 ColtUberti 66 Short Rifle 20" Octagon .32-30
Winchester 73 Rifle 24" Octagon .32-20
Uberti 73 Trapper: 16-1/2" Round .44-40 (Note. I also have a "Mare's Leg stock" for this, making it a "Buntline Mare's Leg" when I wanna shot something for fun. Overall length is still over 27" so it's legal.)
Winchester 92 Carbine. 18-1/4" Round. .44 Magnum (Not original barrel. Letters as a .38-40 24"
Winchester 92 Carbine 20" Round. .32-20
Rossi 92 Carbine: 20" Round .44-40
Colt Lightning Rifle: Octagon 26" .32-20
AWA Lighting Rifle: Round 24" .45 Colt
AWA Lightning Rifle: Round 24" .44-40
Colt Lighting Rifle: Round 30" .44-40
Marlin 1888, Round 20" .32-20 (Letters as a 24")
Uberti Burgess Carbine: Round 20" .45 Colt
Spencer Carbine Round 20" .56-50
So, my barrel lengths are all over the place. I seem to prefer the longer barrels. Heck, my main shotguns have got 30" tubes. -
I am wondering if anyone can provide a quick history of Marlin in a nutshell. Similar to this...
Mister Smith and Mister Wesson started a company to make the Volcanic. It failed.
Mister Henry and Mister Winchester worked together to form New Haven Arms, making the Henry rifle based on the Volcanic design.
Mister Winchester got control of the company and renamed it after himself.The company changed hands over time eventually being owned by Mr. Olin.
In 1983, Winchester the company stopped making the rifles themselves and allowed others to make them using the Winchester name under license. Winchester itself, still owned by Olin, continues to make Winchester Ammo. This is essentially how it is today.
That is a very brief in a nutshell overview.I am looking for a similar bare bones outline of this history of Marlin. I hear different terms, Marlin, JM Marlin, Remlin, Ruglin, and a few others, but I am not for certain of their timeline and so on. Can anyone help?
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.45 Colt is very similar in hitting power to .44-40, which has, by some estimates, put more deer meat on the table than even the .30-30.
I'd go buy 1 box of standard .45 Colt ammo, and just use that for a hunting load.-
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Need to try my '97s
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A lot of that might depend on how the stage is written with regard to target order and placement.
I have been known to load one in the port, fire it, and then stuff 2 in the magazine, racking the slide twice and then dropping the 4th in the open port.
Or a variation of the above, especially if there is a popper target.