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Widder, SASS #59054

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    Maryville, TN
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    Guns: particularly .22 rifles and pistols.
    Varmint hunting

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  1. I'm looking to buy a new 1911, preferably a Dan Wesson in 10mm. Right now, I'm looking at a 5" Silverback or a 6" Bruin. Anyone have any experience with DW and their 1911 pistols? Thanks ..........Widder
  2. With all electronic gizmos and stuff in the cockpit and the pilot wearing a special suit, just how cool/cold is it in the cockpit of todays jet fighters? I know its cold up there in the thin air and such, but is the temps kept steady by an air conditioner. And would air friction tend to make it warmer inside? Just curious. I been watching to many YouTube videos..... ..........Widder
  3. Pistols: 8 yds with POI about 1" higher than POA. Rifle: I actually don't use, nor have, a rear sight. I only have a front site. BUT, I have the appropriate height that when I look down the flat surface of my octagon barrel and see my brass bead, that will put me on a small target at 20 yds. P.S. - I would likely MISS a 100 yard target, regardless of size or color because of eye sight. ..........Widder
  4. KIRK, that is some deep thinking. Do you know the velocities of the rounds you are shooting of the 105/110 vs. the 125? Velocity x weight divided by 1000 = PF Example: 105 at 800 fps has a PF of 84 125 at 750 fps has a PF of 93 I think your observance of heavier bullets causing your sights to move off target is a real occurrence. This might not have helped answer your question, but I thought I would post it. 'CLANG' effect on a target with different bullet weights is a good lunch table discussion. I shoot a .32 H&R in Cowboy competition. My bullet weights are 78, 82 and 100 grainers in the rifle. My velocity with the 82 grainers is above 1200 fps because I like a fast bullet down range. I have been told that my rifle 'clangs' are more audible than most others on the Posse and more so than the mildly loaded .38 special stuff that most folks shoot. Trying to filter in 'clang' effects is something you might have to experiment for yeself. ..........Widder
  5. QUESTION: If the lighter/faster bullet hits lower because it exits the muzzle before recoil effects its travel, AND, the heavy/slower bullet hits higher because recoil is effecting its trajectory before it exits the muzzle, wouldn't barrel length play a part of the equation? How about a light faster bullet in a Long Barrel (lets say 7") vs. a heavy, slower bullet in a 3" barrel. Looks like a whole new ball game to me if you factor in those items. ..........Widder
  6. Rolan, this is sad indeed. My condolences and Prayers for comfort to you and the family members. ..........Widder
  7. Thats funny. I'm one of them amphibidextrious fellers. I can normally type with my brain disengaged... and still use all 11 fingers with great viscosity..... ..........Widder
  8. Hey Rance. My opinion only: It would be nice if our 'subjectiveness' had more of a distinct guideline....... something like 3-4" apart. But, who really wants to start measuring? I don't. Honestly, I like Creeker's position. Its a defined method and eliminates any subjective judgement calls...AND, it makes it the same for all of us. One other thing I must admit..... If I miss an 18x20" plate at 15 yards with my rifle and hit another plate 3" to the side, there is NO WAY I will argue the 'Clean Miss' thing. Missing something like that and hitting the wrong target deserves a legitimate 'P' for me..... What's on your mind? ..........Widder
  9. Marshal, where did you get a pic of my long ago girlfriend? P.S. - if you look real close, you'll see some blow bubbles I'm making under the water..... ..........Widder
  10. Howdy Ozark Ranger. Your grain of salt is just as good as the rest of us old salts..... Your summation of hits and miss is correct. But in this discussion of missing the correct target and hitting another 'like' target that either overlaps or is much too close wouldn't warrant a 'P' but rather just a miss. My reasons for this thread are to learn from others what might constitute what is referred to as a 'Clean Miss', where a shooter is given the Miss but not a 'P' for hitting that 'kissing' target hanging right beside it. I don't pretend to know the right answer but the few times I have witnessed it, there was a judgement call involved. And those judgement calls seem to be 'subjective'. When I started this thread, I was thinking maybe 4 inches or so would be a reasonable measurement between targets. But I must admit that Creekers post takes ALL doubt and guess work out of it and allows a clear cut manner in deciding how to determine whether a shot is determined a 'Clean Miss' or a 'P'. Thanks everyone for your good input. ..........Widder
  11. Nice rifle Rye. Ya done good. ..........Widder
  12. Great post Fellers. Thanks. Junky's post also gave me a thought on target placements in relationship to their design, i.e..... square, rectangular, diamond, round..... etc... Example: if 2 diamond shaped targets are spaced 1/2 inch apart with ONLY the right tip of the left target and the left tip of the right target being 1/2 inch...may even less. To me, this setup would allow a Clean Miss because only a super small portion of the targets would be close. BUT, if you take 2 square or retangular targets and set them up with the same spacing from edge to edge, this would not allow a clean miss, in my opinion. Like Phantom posted earlier, it can be subjective. Some of you Pards are starting to make me think differently about the 'clean miss' thing. ..........Widder
  13. HE's BACK...... and now, he's 89K+ richer tonight. Some of the questions tonight were impossible to imagine that anyone would know the answers. Yet, there were some smart competitors tonight. Go James..... GO! ..........Widder
  14. You may have hit that proverbial subjective nail on the tip... ..........Widder
  15. Your point is well taken. But if a shooter shot at #3 and hit #4, then shot at #4 and hit #3, if those targets are overlapped or only allowed a 'couple' inches between them, could the shooter have a legitimate protest that he/she wasn't allowed a Clean Miss because the targets were too close? I'm not being argumentative or trying to prove a particular point but rather I'm trying to better understand the 'Clean Miss' thing. ..........Widder
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