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    Maryville, TN
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    Guns: particularly .22 rifles and pistols.
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  1. I would like to have a good Mexican fajita, BUT..... I would probably ask for a good PNut Butter-Jelly sandwich and a cold Pepsi. I would also ask the Warden to play Merle Haggard's "Sing Me Back Home". ..........Widder
  2. Pretty much agree. Marlin's 'good' reputation (atleast from my point of view) was earned years back when their QC was very good and their reputations for 'strength' are legendary. Marlin smiths were once plentiful because setting them up for Cowboy competition was easier. Note I used the word "Competition". This was before the great work that folks are now doing on the 66's and 73's. I don't know enough of the Marlin vs 73 history, but I do know that the last of the original Marlins and the early production 1894 rifles of Remington didn't turn out like most of us had preferred. But I will admit that the more recent Remlins that I have seen and checked out have been nice, although I have limited my own work on them. Let me also state that my previous post was ONLY in response to the post I quoted. I do agree on the comments by others concerning jacking out live rounds. Its probably a situation where the action is not FULLY cycled with a strong possibility of timing in working the Lever-Trigger, lever-trigger, lever-trigger, etc..... Cowboy Junky is one of the fastest rifle shooters I know and have seen him shoot. Remarkably fast. I worked on a Marlin for him that had been previously short stroked. The gun was already good..... really good. BUT, as an experiment, we (Junky and I) wanted to see if I could take his rifle and relieve some of its critical OAL situation. I was successfully able to modify it where it gave him more liberty in its OAL variations by a few .000's, which allowed more variations with other bullet styles, weights, and of course, OAL. The rifle ran PERFECT. I've set up some nice Marlin's in my life, but I honestly don't know of any that turned out more ready for competition. I ran more than 250 dummy rounds thru his Marlin with ZERO issues, both super fast and average speed. I could not get his Marlin to jam or hiccup one time. Not once. I gave it back to Junky and told him..."There ain't a jam ANYWHERE in this rifle". Junky managed to jam it on the 2nd cycle in his hands. We quickly determined it was because he didn't FULLY function the cycling. I took 10 pieces of HIS ammo in the rifle, and without pulling the trigger, I cycled all 10 rounds thru the action as fast as I could run the action. All 10 fed thru perfect. And when I don't have to pull the trigger, I can run the action darn fast. Moral of the story..... even if the rifles are set up perfect, there are times when the shooter don't function perfectly. And as we've all learned in our Math classes, anytime you multiply a positive with a negative, ya get negative results. ..........Widder
  3. I had about 25 last fall... but most of them sold at the TN State. Slater still has 6 of them ready to ship with the Widder Soft Stroke/Slater trigger mod already set up. AL, actually I only own 2 of them..... the Evil Roy model and a Golden Boy Youth. The GB Youth seems to be my favorite because its feels so good on the shoulder. ..........Widder
  4. I didn't know whether to click on the 'Thanks' or the 'Funny' icon. But Thanks ... But pleeeeeeeze, don't tell TN Williams I'm easy to talk with. He calls and all he wants to talk about is his money and his new anvil he bought for his blacksmith hobby..... I went to the bank yesterday to withdraw just a few bucks and it took them 30 minutes to move HIS money before they could get to mine. QUESTION: how can you tell if you've got money that TN Williams once had in his pocket? Answer: its probably got chocolate or banana prints on it........ (now thats funny right there) ..........Widder
  5. We could wear out our wrist before the mag tube was empty..... Here in E.TN, there are plenty of CCI .22 Short available..... but some of the stores that are stocking it in bulk are pricing it about the same (or more) than the CCI Mini-Mags. And naturally, when I go to stock up, I try to get the ammo that not only works great in the Henry, but also in .22 autos like the Remington Nylon 66, Marlin Model 60's, Ruger 10/22's and various .22 auto pistols. Our local BUD's in Sevierville, TN has has a huge stock of CCI .22 Short available for over a year and it seems that hardly any of it ever sells. ..........Widder
  6. Chili, I think you are correct on the barrel length info. CCI makes the .22 QUIET ammo. In the pistols, it ain't really quiet. In a 16-18" rifle barrels, it is relatively quiet and normally just a tad more than an air rifle. But in the 22" barrels, it really shows its uniqueness, producing just a 'pifffffff' sound. DISCLAIMER: I wear hearing aids to hear most sounds. The info above is the results while using my aids set at the normal settings in both ears. Without my aids, I don't even hear water running, even when I'm in the shower..... ..........Widder
  7. WOLFY, Of those I have worked on, it appears all of them could function with .22 short, Long and LR. BUT, some were marked for Long Rifle while many of the later ones (and present) are marked S, L, LR on the barrel. ..........Widder
  8. I don't know which .22 might be the 'hardest hitting', but 2 of my favorites are: CCI Velocitor 40 gr at 1435 Browning BPR 40 gr at 1435 These are both excellent rounds in relation to power output. I have experience reliable feeding results in both Lever rifles and Semi-auto rifles (8 of them) BUT... I have not experienced 100% reliable feeding results in all my .22 auto pistols (6 of them) ..........Widder
  9. I agree with Tequila. Tyrel, the .38/.357 'factory' spec's rifles seem to have a built in 'governor' that can (but not always) cause problems when the 1894 is cycled real fast. And I will explain: When a round sits on the carrier and the previous round has been fired, the empty extracted case RIM will 'kiss' the rim of the cartridge sitting on the carrier. The tolerances are close..... sometimes a little to close. If you are using brass with RIM diameters on the high side of SAAMI specs, they will often bump. Rim diameters on the low side of SAAMI specs will bypass close, but might not actually bump each other. NOW, here is the situation when running the rifle fast: when the extracted empty moves back over the top of the next round on the carrier, if the shooter is running the rifle real fast, the carrier can start to rise with the next round BEFORE the empty has had time to clear the action. Sometimes, if tolerances are so close that those rims 'kiss' each other during the cycling, its only natural that running the 1894 real fast will cause feeding issues because those rims bump each other. Basically, the empty is trying to clear the port at the same time the next round is trying to feed upwards on the carrier. LAWMAN MAYS: feel free to call me and I'll give you a little test to try over the phone to help you see what I'm talking about. ..........Widder 865 / 696-1996
  10. Howdy Rooster. There is a reason I compared it to the 9422. I think the 9422 is probably the finest .22 lever rifle ever made. Its durability, functionality and simplicity does indeed make it a #1 choice for many folks. And that is the reason I also own one. But as I stated in my opinion, I do like the Henry's better. As for outlasting, who knows. I shoot my Henry A LOT over the past couple years and its still running strong. And it is fast..... real fast. Of course, some of that speed is due to my short stroking it. ...........Widder
  11. Howdy Jabez. You're right about traveling and wasting years. Right now, It looks like I won't be doing distant travels very much. Money isn't really the issue but rather money priorities. I bought a new ATV for my Christmas present and will probably do a lot of mountain trail riding around here in E. Tennessee. But I ain't forgot your offer. If I ever go North, I will surely give you a shout. ...........Widder
  12. BURN, You can also call me if you prefer. widder1894@icloud.com 865 / 696-1996 P.S. - thanks to all my 'friends' above... especially SASS comedian TN Williams. Have ANY of you ever ask yeowndangself..... 'Does TN Williams really own a weedeater?' ..........Widder
  13. Purly Man, 17# hammer springs would be a good poundage to use. As for ammo, probably ALL of the CCI brand will work very well. As for Federals, The blue box 'Champion' brand might give you some inconsistency although its still good stuff. The Federal black box bulk is excellent. The White box stuff is also good. The reddish box stuff has never been good for me. Slater and I shoot ALL KINDS of .22 ammo and a lot of it and the info I listed above is from our experience in shooting 100's of rounds during the year. Another inconsistent ammo I have tried is Aguila. I don't seem to get good results with it in either rifles or pistols. I don't think you will go wrong with most any of the CCI stuff. ..........Widder
  14. S.Dave, YEP, thats it. Thanks for posting that video. ALL of their .22 lever rifles are identical inside (under the cover). Whether they are black, silver, brass, etc.... they are the same inside. They all work the same, including the .22 magnums and .17 HMR lever rifles. The .22's can be short stroked by various means. To my knowledge, the .22 magnum and .17 HMR can not be short stroked. They need the full arc of the lever to allow ejection of empties and for the bolt to pick up following rounds. Some of the earlier lever rifles used a plastic carrier inside. But all of them now have aluminum carriers (part 08/09) The reason behind the part number being 08/09 is because the carrier has a right side and a left side that snap (or riveted) together. As for their reliability, I have fired one of mine over 5000 rounds with no noticeable wear areas. More recently, I bought another one..... the Golden Boy Youth that I haven't fired as much. Great rifles. I like em better than my Winchester 9422. ..........Widder
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