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Garrison Joe, SASS #60708

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About Garrison Joe, SASS #60708

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    shooting, hiking, hunting, fishing, building, gun smithing, wood working. SASS Regulator. NSCA super veteran.

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  1. Gunbot. http://www.gunbot.net/reloading/Powder/ is the powder link. I find it much less useful than it used to be, however, as it seems the number of vendors that it mines has decreased. Good luck, GJ
  2. When lever is fully closed, nothing (but firing pin) moves in a perfectly functioning 73 action. Do you perhaps mean it's sticky and hard to get the lever to move immediately after firing the gun? Just as you start to stroke the lever? That suggests the chamber is hanging up the fired case to me. You could have bulged the chamber when you forced a round into chamber with part of a case in it, then fired the round. You could also have bent parts enough to affect timing and thus smooth extraction, as I mentioned above. Or while extracting the partial case from chamber, tools could have gouged the chamber wall. The calamity that you describe is one that is well worth hiring a gunsmith to get that rifle running well again. It's worth little as anything but a risky fixer-upper to other shooters right now, because extracting fired cases is pretty vital to running in a match. Good luck, GJ
  3. At what part of the stroke is the action sticking? On carrier upward motion (lever opening) or downward (lever closing)? Where is the bolt face at the time the action sticks? Close to chamber, or close to frame? Has gun been short stroked? Has gun been worked on recently? Has gun had an out-of-battery discharge? Have you changed the load that you are using? Best guess with almost no info is you might have a timing problem that has developed due to wear or an out-of-battery firing. And that could have damaged lever or lifter arm or carrier. If you have an urgent need to get this running, a trip to a good cowboy smith is the fast and sure method to get it running. Diagnosing a 73 with minimum info over the wire when there is an urgent need to get the gun running is an exercise in developing hard feelings. Good luck, GJ
  4. Go to your local matches. Try some out before you buy. What you like may be different from what the last Cowboy shooter you asked likes. Good luck, GJ
  5. If you would instead consider the Traditional gun being a service-issued model up through about Vietnam era, and Modern being something the US services might have issued if they ever thought about using the 1911 type platform after Vietnam, you would be just about right. The A1 update being a dividing line would not be very "friendly" to a large segment of the WB shooter base. And especially so if you allowed nothing after the A1 update. Good luck, GJ
  6. Why welded? Probably loose when assembled and would not stay together to fire safely. Would take major investment to get this one working. IMHO. GJ
  7. I like my Altamont slim grips on a pair of New Model Vaqueros, shooting duelist style. Fit was excellent. Good luck, GJ
  8. Norinco (Chinese) directly imported fairly good 97 clones in the 90s. IAC (US importer) brought in better 97 clones starting about 2002 (?) when the Bush admin shut down Norinco's shotgun imports. These will be IAC-marked Norincos, essentially, with much more attention paid to tolerances and quality, also real American walnut furniture. Coyote Cap cooperated with IAC in bringing in many of these. He made several improvements to IAC's model and had a batch labeled with "CB" serial prefix that arrived in the US about 2009. Of all the Chinese guns, these are the top of the line. Next would be IAC guns with serial numbers starting 06 or higher (frame made 2006 or later). The Polytech (Poly Technologies, another Chinese company) 97 clone has not been very well received due to very poor tolerances, materials and quality control. Contact Outlaw Gambler (great pard on the wire) if you are still looking for a Chinese 97 clone. He's a big stocker of those guns, and real Winchesters too. Good luck, GJ
  9. There are other ways to handle this! Run the action and jack live rounds out. Lever and pump guns. Punch revolver rounds out with ejector. Open and shuck or pick out s/g rounds (double or break open shingle shot) All with the supervision of the TO with muzzle downrange and not sweeping someone. Or at unloading table if you have not laid the gun down and removed your hands from it. None of that requires declaring a malfunction. You may have just overloaded a gun, loaded a shotgun at the wrong time, or had to stop shooting for some reason. Now, some of those events just mentioned may be a penalty gathering condition themselves (like coming to line with a revolver loaded with 6 rounds - thus having a live round under the hammer), but you do not (and usually don't) just fire extra rounds down range. Timers pick up those extra shots, don't you know! That adds to your stage time. AND you may obtain permission to take loaded guns to the unloading table. Like when you discover you did not bring any SG shells to the line. Take loaded guns to ULT, clear, then go back to LT to try again. Good luck, GJ
  10. Wrong! If you are one shot short of the rounds to be fired, that is a "round-not-fired" condition, and the penalty is "Scored as a Miss" Good luck, GJ
  11. Yes Cowboy 45 Special cases fit and function well in a .45 COLT revolver. There really is no .45 Long Colt cartridge. That is a poor choice of names by folks who don't know history of the cartridge. You just CANNOT get any .45 caliber revolver/.45 Colt brass to function with the 60 PF loads that a lightly loaded .38 Special runs fine at. But you CAN get a .45 Colt to run at about 75 or 80 PF using the Cowboy .45 Special case (available from Starline Brass). And factory loads are NOT the light recoiling loads used by Cowboy competitors. Most factories will not manufacture those kinds of real light loads, since they are not very suitable for anything but plinking and cowboy matches. Good luck, GJ
  12. Yep, unfortunately, have recently seen shooter's error attempted to be blamed on TO. (And that hard feeling even carried forward to future matches.) Good luck, GJ
  13. 1 - possible causes: Mainspring (or it's strain screw) has been lightened too much. Sear or hammer full cock notch angle is wearing/damaged to allow hammer to follow bolt. Gun (fire control parts) dirty. 2 - Shell stops malfunctioning and sticking "open" (often they are dirty). 3 - Rough rims on reloaded shells. Shell stops malfunctioning and sticking "closed" (often they are dirty). Dirty magazine tube or follower, or weak spring. Dinged magazine tube. Of course, there are many other ways to get these malfunctions. I've just listed ones that I have seen cause the problems. Good luck, GJ
  14. Winter Range uses a long range facility that has SOLID shooting tables up and down the firing line. There is no need to bring a table to WR cowboy rifle matches. Good luck, GJ
  15. "Spot" Market price today for industrial quantities of pure lead is $0.93 a pound. If you have clean wheel weight lead, you should be able to sell that at $1.50 or $1.75 a pound. Perhaps slightly more if the buyer is eager to get resupplied. It's getting harder to find and smelt lead wheel weights now that there are zinc and iron and other metals being made into wheel weights too! And soft (plumbers) lead - perhaps you can get $1.25 a pound. The major suppliers of "virgin bullet casting" lead, alloyed to 6% antimony and 2% tin (a harder alloy than we need to use) - are getting about $2.00 a pound and shipping costs on top of that. Those high prices will make it easy to sell your lead ingots for more than the value of the lead in them. Market prices affect final, on-the-street lead price. Location affects lead price. Demand (need) affects lead price. Having the lead right at the match for shooters to take home - that may carry a quarter worth of increased value per pound just so they don't have to pay shipping! As always, the price ends up being what a shooter will pay for it, but those numbers should be good guides. Good luck, GJ
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