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    It's Almost Friday Humor Thread

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    The Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence project (SETI) just announced it has decoded the first transmission to originate from another civilization:

    "Simply send 6.023 times 10 to the 23 atoms of Hydrogen to the Star System at the top of the list, cross off that star system, then put your Star System at the bottom of the list and send it to 100 other Star Systems. Within one-tenth of a Galactic Rotation you will receive enough hydrogen to power your civilization until entropy reaches its maximum!

    IT REALLY WORKS!"

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    Ba-Dump Tissssh - Memes

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    Posted · Edited by Subdeacon Joe

    15 minutes ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

    From your article:

     

    "In the United States, by some estimates taxpayers pay about $20 billion dollars every year to the fossil fuel industry.

     

    So I'll see your internet reference and raise you one:

     

    Annual U.S. revenue from fossil fuel taxation: $138 billion.

     

    The U.S. gets almost seven times back in revenue from the $20 billion subsidy.

     

    What does the U.S. get back in revenue from the money it dumps into EV? (besides, of course, campaign contributions).

     

     

    What "interest reference" did you pull the fossil fuel tax number from?

     

    Ba-Dump Tissssh - Memes

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    56 minutes ago, DocWard said:

    I do believe that a certain amount of propaganda in favor of electric vehicles, along with the tendency of the average person to not look behind the curtain (seeing coal powered plants, warming of waters behind hydroelectric dams, etc...) have pushed the popularity of EVs, while a lack of understanding about the actual safety of hydrogen has done it harm.

     

    One of the attractions of the EV for many people is home charging,  I don't seen Hydrogen being pumped into every home.

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    Funny Photos - add some.

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    2 hours ago, Alpo said:

    What's WAMs?

     

    I've heard of WMs (Women Marines). I've heard of BAMs (derogatory term for WMs - Broad Ass Marines).

     

    But not WAMs.

     

    It's the pronunciation of WM.

     

    46 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

    Either one will get you slapped into next week. if the LM (lady Marines) hear you say it......and when you get slapped my an LM you stay slapped!

     

    It looks like the USMC still calls them Woman Marines.

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    Ba-Dump Tissssh - Memes

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    5 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

    There is no way to accurately compare the true costs of running EV vs. ICV because the fossil fuel side of the market has been thoroughly corrupted by government taxpayer funding,

     

    Fixed it for you.   https://www.budget.senate.gov/chairman/newsroom/press/sen-whitehouse-on-fossil-fuel-subsidies-we-are-subsidizing-the-danger-
     

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    You tally up the harms, and the IMF estimates it at a $5.4 trillion annual subsidy worldwide.  In the United States, it’s $646 billion – every single year.  

     

     

    Intangible Drilling Costs Deduction (26 U.S. Code § 263. Active). This provision allows companies to deduct a majority of the costs incurred from drilling new wells domestically. In its analysis of President Trump’s Fiscal Year 2017 Budget Proposal, the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) estimated that eliminating tax breaks for intangible drilling costs would generate $1.59 billion in revenue in 2017, or $13 billion in the next ten years.


    Percentage Depletion (26 U.S. Code § 613. Active). Depletion is an accounting method that works much like depreciation, allowing businesses to deduct a certain amount from their taxable income as a reflection of declining production from a reserve over time. However, with standard cost depletion, if a firm were to extract 10 percent of recoverable oil from a property, the depletion expense would be ten percent of capital costs. In contrast, percentage depletion allows firms to deduct a set percentage from their taxable income. Because percentage depletion is not based on capital costs, total deductions can exceed capital costs. This provision is limited to independent producers and royalty owners. In its analysis of the President’s Fiscal Year 2017 Budget Proposal, the JCT estimated that eliminating percentage depletion for coal, oil and natural gas would generate $12.9 billion in the next ten years.

     

     

     

    Tell us again how there is no subsidy of the petroleum industry.  

    Ba-Dump Tissssh - Memes

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    2 hours ago, DocWard said:

     

     

    2000 Tundra, 20 mpg maybe if it was a 2WD.

     

    Yep, 2WD V-8.

    Can we agree at some point that there is a place for Electric Vehicles and Internal Combustion Vehicles?

    Exactly.  Long commutes, very rural areas, towing personal trailers are not conducive to EVs, 


    I have no desire to have an EV, because it would limit much of what I do. I really have no desire to see charging stations when I am out in the middle of nowhere camping. And right now my truck does pretty well at pulling a horse trailer when necessary. A friend has a Tesla that is insanely fast, but you lose so much of the driving experience without a shift knob in hand. The paddle shifters on my Outback Wilderness are a substitute, but still pales by comparison to the real thing.

    I do sometimes miss a stick, but that was true with the Tundra with its automatic transmission. Charging stations aren't all that obtrusive.  If you stay at,  e.g. a KOA or similar, what's the difference between that and the utility hookups?


    If I just wanted a commuter vehicle, I would strongly consider an EV.

    Exactly. Commutes, local driving for pleasure.  I could make it across the country in the EV I have, longest stretch, according to various charging station aps, would be about 140 miles, which would make me nervous since I have a low end Leaf.  But it's great for day trips.  


    Having said that, I still say Hydrogen is the better option.

    No argument there.   But you then have the issue of setting up the high pressure hydrogen infrastructure, and, of course, you would still get the memes showing hundreds of rail cars loaded with coal and the caption. "LOOK!  Another load of hydrogen fuel!"

     

     

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    Ba-Dump Tissssh - Memes

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    3 hours ago, Alpo said:

    Got an email from my electric company, day or so back.

     

    >Enjoy unlimited night and weekend EV charging starting at $31 a month — with no upfront costs and a hassle-free setup.

     

    Need a 240 volt circuit permitted and installed? A full installation option with the same great benefits is available for $38 a month.

     

    FPL EVolution® Home is your easy, convenient and worry-free charging experience — powered with 100% renewable energy from America’s smartest and most reliable grid.<

     

     

    STARTING at $31 a month. Huh. Didn't notice that the first time I read it. I thought it said just $31 a month.

     

    I don't go nowhere. A tank of gas (10 gallons) lasts me a couple of months.

     

    Maybe that would be a good deal for somebody that drives three or four hundred miles a week. Maybe.

     

    Then there was that news article I saw a couple weeks ago. Texas is going to charge electric vehicle people $200 a year for the privilege of driving an electric vehicle. Because when they're driving an electric vehicle they're not buying gasoline so they're not paying gas tax, so they're not paying for their fair share of the upkeep of the roads.

     

    I don't know. It just looks like electric is a bit more expensive.

     

    I drove a 2000 Tundra. In March 2021 it was costing about $75/week to fuel just for going to work (at around $3.59/gal), church, and shopping (shopping was only about 5 miles a week round trip).  

     

    Got an electric because we needed some serious repairs on the Tundra that we couldn't afford.  "Fuel" cost dropped to about $12/week for the same amount of driving, that's at a commercial fast charger, be about $6 or less for 120v home charging.   Even adding in the $4/week that a state fee like the one in TX you mentioned, that's still a lot less than $75/week.  Add in, call it $40/month, that's ten bucks a week, for whatever the power company plan is, and it's still less than $75/week.  If you don't drive more than about 60 miles per day you can get by with the plug in to your 120v house current and don't need the 240v set up.

     

    Gas here topped at close to $7/gallon, and is sitting around $5.5/gallon now.

     

    So, I don't care what math you use, but call it $20 to $25 per week is a lot less than $125 to $150 per week.  So, no, it's not more expensive to drive an electric than an internal combustion vehicle.  Even if your daily round trip is 200 miles and you charge exclusively at commercial fast charging stations it's cheaper, unless you have an internal combustion that gets 50mpg or better.

     

     

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    Funny Photos - add some.

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    2 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said:

    Reminds me of some of the laws for cars in the early 20th century to prevent scaring horses and people. 

     

    Also electric cars now.  About 15 years ago someone decided that hybrids were too quiet in town on their electric motors and pedestrians didn't hear them so hybrids and EVs are required to have some sort of noisemaker that sounds at under something like 30 mph.  Usually a hissing sound.

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