Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129

I have found that Norma 204 , H - 4350 to be good powders to try ... Jabez Cowboy

That Custom barrel was far more accurate than many modern center fire rifles the come off the dealers racks each year ... Those were the days ,,, young eyes and a rifle that shot a way better than anyone had a right to expect ... Reminds me of old friends, most have passed on but will never be forgotten .... Jabez Cowboy

Ya got's the twin to my 92 .... Have fun. Jabez Cowboy

The 120 gr. load with 3F. Goex but using a pillow ticking patch lubed with bear oil and bee wax mixed 40% oil to 60% wax is my hunting load in my "Lyman Trade Rifle" with a 1-48 twist .... I had a 50 cal with 1-72 twist that just loved even heavyer loads of 3F. The barrel was Made for me in Montana many years ago , and I used it to win the provincial championship many moons ago ... The hunting load for this gun was 180 grains ... Jabez Cowboy

3F. Goex drop-tubed in to fill the case so as the bullet compresses the powder 1/8 of an inch with Winchester primers ,using a 245 gr. RNFP lead bullet ... should give you around 1,280 Fps. and is safe in a Uberti 73 or 66 ... Jabez Cowboy

Pressure tested Data .50 Cal 28 inch Barrel 1-48 twist, using " Ox-Yoke " pre-lubed Patch .015 .490 Ball Wt. 177 Gr. Goex 3f ... 60gr. velocity 1,566,,, pressure 7,500 psi. 70gr. Velocity 1,657,,, pressure 8,500 psi. 80gr. Velocity 1,748,,, pressure 9,500 psi. 90gr. Velocity 1,830,,, pressure 9,900 psi. 100gr. Velocity 1,911,, pressure 10,200 psi. 110gr. velocity 1,963,, pressure 10,300 psi. 120gr. velocity 2,015,, pressure 10,800 psi. Using Goex 2f. with the same components as above ... 100gr. velocity 1,729 ,,pressure 7,500 psi. 110gr. velocity 1,768 ,, pressure 7,700 psi. 120gr. velocity 1,806 ,, pressure 7,800 psi. Hope this helps ... Jabez Cowboy

Yes the "Pet Loads" by Ken Waters is "Old" the principles still hold true and I am amazed how often he was BANG on with-out having the use of modern pressure testing equipment .... He noticed many "small" things and used sound judgement in making the "Calls" he made ... Fine Gentleman ... Jabez Cowboy

A powder flask with a spout you can fill down until it dispenses the volum of powder you want to use... one with inter-changeable spouts so that when you get your .44 you just fit a new spout ... A capper, I use an in-line capper... Nipple wrench with pick... A ball mould ... New Nipples ... Teso's Jabez Cowboy

What ya doing with my 235 ???? I use one in matches when I shoot 12 ga. I think my hammer springs came from a F-350 Super Duty ,,,,, just a little stiff ... Jabez Cowboy

A 1-48 twist barrel in .50 cal. seems to handle two loads quite nicely 65 gr. of 3f under a lubed patched ball for target use ... And between 110 - 120 gr. 3f under the same patched ball for hunting ... My .50 prefers the 120 gr. charge over all others, but the 65 gr. load is almost as good with less kick ... I have burned a lot of Black in Muzzle loaders in the past 45 years ... In .45, .50, .54, 58, and 62 calibers as well as in .36 and .44 caliber Pistols .... Jabez Cowboy

We do it quite often ,,,, Jabez Cowboy

I used one for years in 16 ga. Till this past Feb. When I found a belt for 16 ga. at WR at a good price ... Still have the Bando, a may use it as the Fancy strikes me ... Jabez Cowboy

Prayers Up from Western Canada .... Rest easy and heal quickly .... Jabez Cowboy

If ,,, Big If you ever want to come shoot in Canada barrels shorter than 4.20 are not allowed on pistols to be brought into Canada ... Jabez Cowboy

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Or maybe longer ..... Jabez Cowboy

Longshot Logan , Boston John Doucette and Bisley Joe, miss them all some more than others ... For Da record I shoot FCD ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Jabez Cowboy

The 1.66 inches of drop is the extra drop you would have, caused by the change in elevation if you kept the same sight setting for 300 yards on my range then went to a range 2,000 feet lower elevation... All numbers are for Additional Drop or Drift and not the final number but must be added to the amount of Drop and Drift already accounted for at my range.... The problem is also what would the velocity difference be ? All of the numbers are based on the velocity staying at 1.450 fps. ,,,, But this is an unknown and I can't haul my Chronograph equipment with me... So the only true way available to a Cowboy is test firing .... As an aside even Published BC values are not always accurate , for instance When the Hornady SST hunting bullet first came out in .270 cal . their stated BC was out by 20% as I found out by actual test firing I talked to their ballistic guy and he stated that yes the model they used to predict the BC had given the wrong BC and they had just finished test firing this bullet and that their data reflected the greater BC the same as my data ... They changed the BC in their data to reflect the 20% higher BC ... Jabez Cowboy

.38 WCF (.38-40 ) 180 gr. Soft Lead RNFP Velocity 800 Fps. in pistols ... Jabez Cowboy

Btt: Hope Da numbers didn't scare ya all .... Jabez Cowboy

NAY on the Big Boy !!!! Nothing but problems if you try to run it fast ..... No speed parts available .... They Don't need the hassle .... Jabez Cowboy

I noticed a lot of Smoke ,,,, Good on them ... Jabez Cowboy

Well I ran my ballistic program some using my range conditions, then I simply changed ONLY the elevation to that of what I Now Understand is the case at Winter Range ... My program includes a feature that high-lights the differences, so here goes.,,, Numbers all show the difference as Greater at WR than at my range ,,, ie; the bullet drop Zeroed at 300 yards at my range the bullet would be 1.66 inches low at WR wind drift an extra 7.47 inches, Bullet slower by 20 fps. At 400 yards 3.96 inches extra drop,Wind drift extra 12.42 inches, Bullet slower by 20.5 fps. At 500 Yards 7.69 extra drop,, wind drift extra 18.172 inches, bullet slower by 20.7 Fps. At 1,000 Yards 59.09 inches extra drop, wind drift extra 90.5 inches, bullet slower by 23.7 Fps. All this is for a high BC . 4065 dia. bullet weighing 410 grains started out at 1,450 Fps. Every .45-70 load in have Chronographed would fair worse that the above load and also every .38-55 load even more so ... To get as high a BC in .45 caliber requires a bullet of around 570 grains , and I have never seen a .45-70 come close to 1,450 Fps. with a bullet of this weight in use in this game .... Most clock under the speed of sound ... Ballistic testing and Gunsmithing are how I afford to pay to play this Game ... Hope this helps .... Jabez Cowboy

Thank-you shout-out to Pigpen ,,,,, This will improve things for all .... A second trip to WR just might be in the Cards ,,,,,,,,, Jabez Cowboy

A rifle sighted in at 3,884 ft. of elevation will shoot MUCH differently at WR , not to mention one that has been bouncing on down the road in a camper for 1,800 miles... Plus differing levels of Humidity ,,,,,,,,, etc .... Did ya all Know The BC of the bullet changes due to the elevation .... What`s the change in velocity ..... There are just TOO many variables not to make practice targets available if you want all to have a fair chance .... Jabez Cowboy