[How many clicks on a Colt Bisley?]

1 minute ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

C-O-L-T.

We've heard it, we've said it, we've bemoaned the fact that some of the clones don't have 4 clicks as you cock them like a real Colt does.

But as I was checking something on my Bisley's this morning, I found my self saying, "Waitiasec...  There's only 2 clicks!"

Perplexed, I very carefully and slowly tried cocking both of them.   Click 1, the so called "safety notch" is there on both of them, it's just really quiet, and you don't pull the hammer back as far as you do on a regular SAA to engage it.

Click 2 is half cock, and click 3 is full cock.   In other words, three clicks.   Not four, three.   Now, I've never taken these guns apart, or any of my standard SAAs for that matter, but I aways guessed that the only difference was the shape of the grip and hammer.  But now, apparently, I am starting to guess that there are some internal differences as well.   What they would be, I do no know, but it seems that they were there.

And, I don't think that one of the clicks is just worn away with age.   Both pistols are very tight, have perfect timing and lock up properly.   The odds of them both wearing away the same click just seems improbable to me.

So...    To anyone else with a real Colt Bisley, three or four clicks?  To any gunsmiths who might know, are they internally very different?

 

Curiosity needs to be satisfied.

Interesting question. I had a pair of Uberti Bisleys and I’m pretty sure they had 4 clicks. They’re like the Colt not the Rugers.

[Iconic Theme Music]

Ennio Morricone was a great writer and musician. He wrote tons of music that didn’t make it to the movies as well! 
 

Here’s another example 

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[Mountain, West Virginia]

it was named after the Mole family! Wonder what they were like 😂

[Reloading question]

I’ve always left a little room at the top of case for the bullet to go in. You don’t have to smash it down you just have to have no space. 35 grains is plenty and safe 

[Colt gunsmith?]

6 hours ago, Tex Jones, SASS 2263 said:

Christie knows her stuff; she worked with the master.  Jeff Ault, successor to Bob Munden did a pistol

for me recently with good results.  I have not used him, but Bill Fuchs at Spring Creek Armory has a good reputation.  I don't think that you can go wrong with any of them.  Good luck.

Tex

I’ve ordered a few parts from Christie she knows what she’s talking about. I would have no hesitation in sending a Colt to her. 🤠

[Reloading question]

1 hour ago, 9245 said:

I am attempting to reload some .44-40 to as close to period correct as possible, and I’ve pretty much got it all figured out, I’ll be using a hand cast bullet that is very similar to the original, 50/50 beeswax and Crisco (I could not find enough tallow in quantity to even approach affordability, so I substituted Crisco), 40 grains (volumetric) of 3f Swiss crammed in with a compression die.  However the only primers I have on hand are magnums, will that be an issue?  Or are magnums maybe exactly what I want given the compressed load?

 

Brass is once fired (by me) Magtech, all I could get ahold of.

In his book Shooting black powder guns, Mike Venturino actually recommended magnum primers. I used them when I could get them when I shot BP. I never could get 40 grs in though, the best I did was about 35-37 

[Nice neat gun cleaning kit]

I get what you’re saying but a work desk is a lot different than keeping a gun cleaning area neat so you can find stuff! I like to have the right things to clean my guns within easy reach.

1 hour ago, Pat Riot said:

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[Nice neat gun cleaning kit]

3 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

I received one that was sort of like that but without the snap-in rod holders. IMO, the snap in rod holders end up bending the rods somewhat through both user negligence and poor design. By poor design I mean they hold the rods too tightly, doesn't take much to bend a rod when they have to clean a .22 barrel.

I’ll keep that in mind🤠

[Nice neat gun cleaning kit]

20 minutes ago, Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 said:

Well organized, tidy ... the kind that inspires the user to put things back in their particular recess so they don't get lost!

I'm liking this one!

Yes, my gun cleaning table was a mess! I threw everything out and I’m going to try and keep it organized. 🙄

[Hey Father Cool Kit.]

Haven’t seen anything posted from you in a long time. Everything okay? 

 

[What would you do?]

1 hour ago, Alpo said:

It is the war of 1861. You have captured six Yankees. You strip them of anything you need, take their parole, and send them back to their lines on foot.

 

You have six Springfield rifles, six sabers, six Colt's revolvers.

 

Since you are cavalry, you dislike the Springfield. It's too long for horseback. You got one shot and then you cannot reload while riding. So after one shot it becomes a clumsy club. You destroy the springfields the same way Tarzan used to do in the Johnny Weissmuller movies, swinging them against a handy tree until the stock busted. You also dislike the sabers so you break them. Of course you keep the pistols.

 

What would you do with the rifle ammunition? You have paper cartridges for a 58 caliber rifle musket.

 

Would you fetch them along, because eventually you will get back to your lines, and there are infantry using them Yankee rifles? Tear them apart for the powder, which could be used in any gun? Leave them with the busted rifles because you have no use for them?

 

What would you do with it?

 

I am reading Andre Norton's RIDE PROUD REBEL, and they have just done that. And it did not mention what they did with the ammo, so of course I wondered.

I wouldn’t capture them, I’d give them whatever them needed to go fight the Rebs! I’m a Yankee 🇺🇸

[Nice neat gun cleaning kit]

Everything minus the oils and cleaning fluids etc. 

[Video streaming services]

I tried getting my Spectrum bill reduced since it went up $10.45. I asked if they had anyway of reducing my bill, she said without cutting out some channels no. Then she asked if there was anything else she can help me with! 🙄

I said you didn’t help me at all! Goodbye and I hung up!😡

[Is There An Echo?]

6 seconds……..Buh bye!,,

[Lay them down?]

43 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:

I don't recall seeing anyone slam a pistol down so far, but have seen a lot of rifles get slammed down and I cringe every time!

Yep I’ve seen them throw rifles down hard like they’re a piece of junk they’re throwing out! I cringe as well!🙄

[Lit'ra'chure]

2 hours ago, MizPete said:

Rye:  then watch the 1995 film with Colin Firth as Darcy.  I don't do romance novels either but loved this.  It's a 1) comedy of manners; 2) a classic anti-caste based on wealth. And it's litra'chure.  It won't hurt you.

Nah, not interested but thanks for the suggestion!

[If you were a manufacturer]

3 hours ago, Texas Joker said:

I would sell it to whoever created the most profit margin.

This^^^^^^ the object in business is to make the most profit you can👍

[Lit'ra'chure]

I started to read Pride and Prejudice in high school and couldn't make it through the first chapter.  Never desired to read it again!

[These Joints Make My Head Hurt]

I thought this was going to be about knee joints, elbow joints etc. They give me headaches too!

[Hubble telescope 35 yrs]

35 years ago the Hubble was launched. We got some great photos from you!

 

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[Federal Semi-Auto Ban Returns: GOSAFE Act]

18 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

I certainly hope you’re correct.  Remember!!  The nation is only guaranteed freedom until the next election!!

True!

[One More Good Guy Gone]

I’ve never met him but heard about his good work RIP 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[Lay them down?]

7 minutes ago, Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life said:

SASS stage conventions are that at the end of the pistol shooting string you must reholster, unless they are the last gun, then reholstered off the clock prior to going to the unloading table or if stage instructions say you can restage on a prop during the stage at which point that would supercede the stage conventions. Is that what you meant?

 

Revolvers are returned to leather (re-holstered in a safe condition) at the conclusion of the shooting string, unless the stage description specifically directs otherwise (e.g., “move to the next position and set gun on table or prop”).  A shooting string is defined as shots from one type of firearm prior to the next type of firearm engaged. SHB pg 15

 

6) Reminder: A shooter may holster revolvers after completing the shooting string of the revolvers, before the next type of firearm.   E. g.: If stage scenario calls for shooting the revolvers and then the rifle, the first revolver can be placed on a table, and then the second revolver can be fired. BOTH revolvers however must be holstered BEFORE the rifle is fired (unless the stage description allows otherwise). If the revolvers are the last type of firearm to be used, then they must be holstered at the end of the string. (See definition of  “string” in the Glossary of Terms) TG notes winter range 2017

 

Regards

    

Gateway Kid

 

16 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Yes true but I’ve never seen anyone table a pistol and then draw the next one, it doesn’t save any time .

 

[Lay them down?]

17 minutes ago, Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L said:

But if the pistols are both shot from the same location for 10 shots then they only need to be holstered after both pistols are shot and before moving to the next location.

Yes true but I’ve never seen anyone table a pistol and then draw the next one, it doesn’t save any time .

[Lay them down?]

5 hours ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said:

A stage writer CANNOT require holstering prior to the completion of the pistol string.

(If shooting BOTH pistols at same position - a pistol string encompasses all 10 rounds).

 

This instruction would either exclude or impede the Gunfighter category and as such is an improperly written instruction and can be disregarded (same as stage instruction written still using 1st pistol/ 2nd pistol nomenclature).

 

A stage writer or club is NOT required to provide a table, platform or space to allow for pistol staging - or they MAY state that a given space may not be used for that purpose - but they cannot enforce holstering "during" the pistol string; only prior to the next firearm or prior to moving to the unloading table.

 

I’m talking about if the pistols are first or second in the string the stage writer may say holster pistols and move to rifle or shotgun. If you end with the pistols then you may table one and draw the other, of course gunfighter’s obviously won’t do that. I’ve seen this at many different clubs I go to.