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Whiskey Hayes #41999

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  1. Papa Dave has touched many lives in the SASS family and it is with great sadness, grieve and heartache I must share the news of his passing this morning.

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  2. Randy


    Whoever was running that side match should not have allowed you to shoot your BB gun.


    TN Williams you know you’re not suppose to eat nanner splits.  They do affect your thought process.



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  3. Widder,Capt Bill,Branch


    Looking forward to seeing all of you guys at TN State.  Widder just seemed to be some doubt in some the threads if the correct call was made.  Just thought I would point out how the rule could be misinterpreted and how the misinterpretation could be resolved.  I had to eat a very late lunch here at desk and I've run out of time to drag it out any further.  Dang got mustard on my keyboard.



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  4. However, if there is a range failure (props, timer, RO’s) that is beyond the competitor’s control, a reshoot may be granted.


    Branch, this is what you posted.  A failure that is beyond the shooter's control.  By shooting the rifle last did the shooter influence the timer?


    Something nobody has brought up is benefit of the doubt goes to the shooter.  Nobody really knows why the timer failed in the OP regardless of what the shooter did.  I would have given a reshoot.  Hope I didn't increase your indigestion.



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  5. Branch


    Your hypothetical isn't the same as OP.  Poor stage design is out of the shooter's control.  Big shooter small TO is out of shooter's control.  Shooter has control over shooting guns in the correct order.  Shooting rifle last can/does create timer issues.   Both calls require looking at what the shooter has control over and what he doesn't.



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  6. ROI pg 10


    Reshoots or Restarts are not awarded for ammunition or firearm malfunctions. However, if there is a range failure (props, timer, RO’s) that is beyond the competitor’s control, a reshoot may be granted. The competitor starts over clean – carrying only accrued safety penalties forward.


    There is a reason for stages not to have the rifle shot last.  I think this should also be a question to consider.

    Did the shooter's action create the timer malfunction?

  7. I have an AD in 38 and a Bond Mini in 45.


    The AD is a very nice gun and does resemble the original Remington. With the AD you must remember to manually set the safety on before closing the gun. The safety automatically disengages when cocked. The AD I have only hits half the top firing pin with the hammer shuttle. It finally broke and wouldn't fire the top barrel. Ordered a replacement part and it only engages half the top firing pin. I have examined 2 other AD 38"s at gun shows and they had the same issue. However it is a beautiful gun and I had mine engraved by Kelley Lassiter and put real elephant ivory grips on it. Very beautiful river boat gambler gun now.


    The Bond Mini 45 is about the same size as the AD. The Bond Mini has shorter barrels and is slightly heavier. Recoil on the 45 Colt Mini is stiff but controllable. I'm going to order 38 barrels for it. With the rebounding hammers you don't have to engage the safety before closing the gun. But with the Bond it is manual on and manual off safety. I haven't encountered a weakness with the Bond. The Bond might come with the competition kit installed but I still cut 2 coils off the main spring to improve hammer pull. The Bond still fires reliably.


    Shooting a 16" plate target at 5 yds isn't an issue with either gun. Barrels do shoot to different points of impact on both guns but not enough to be an issue at 5 yds. I do prefer the Bond Mini over the AD. I do like derringers and have shot both of mine a lot but not in competition. I just shoot them at the range plinking etc. sometimes as many as 200 rounds through each gun.


    I will take some pictures of the guns side by side. Never have posted pictures before but if I can't figure it out I will email pictures to folks that know how.



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