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Posts posted by Gold Canyon Kid #43974
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Can you quote a rule?They weren't in 2001.
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Anyone else having difficulties seeing posted ACES scores in 2017? I just see a server error.
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On the period correct scale, where do Wranglers and other non decorated today's off the shelf jeans fit? Well that should keep this thread running a few more days.
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I remember a long time ago a long Wire discussion on whether a very light, about 10 inch leather hunting boot with a soft rubber sole was legal. It had about a dozen pages of "is" and "is not" legal posts. The leather was very light, maybe kangaroo. A few weeks later wearing that boot a US fellow won EOT. I am certain that boot was much more responsible for the win than the thousands of hours of practice. From the earlier discussion, one could have drawn that conclusion, but to my knowledge the boot issue never came up during or after EOT. Maybe no one ever looked down.I wish now that I would have never brought up the subject of boots...I should have known better...
Ya know, "back in the day", people here on the Wire discussed what was "period correct" and what was "historically plausible" versus what was "historically accurate". Some drew a line in the sand and stuck by what they considered "correct, period"! Now people that were "reenactors" would chime in with their opinions on what was "of the era" and others would sight the rules regarding what was proper for one's "costume". Some people would argue that "costume" was a word for "Halloween clothes" but "I could care less" what the "period correct" clothes were called..."back in the day"....during that time...Anyway, "it is what it is" folks. We could all make "guesstimates" or make "wild ---ed guesses" about what was "of the era", but the fact is "winter is getting long" and it ain't over for a while. So getting spun up over what was "historically accurate" "back in the day" just leads to fussin' and feuding and bad feelings. I know I am guilty of a little pot stirring...heck, "back in the day" I can remember arguing over what was "period correct" only to find later on that my "guesstimates" were way off and weren't "historically plausible" but I stuck to my Rugers and it caused some bad blood. We are all in this for the fun so let's not allow the fun to be tainted by "serious wild ___ed guesses" about was was "historically plausible"..."Just sayin'...
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I've been wondering about this for a while. Can you explain how "lug soles" fit into the following, which is from the first paragraph in Clothing and Accoutrements in the SHB.
"Cowboy Action Shooting™ is a combination of historical reenactment and Saturday morning at the matinee. Participants may choose the style of costume they wish to wear, but all clothing must be typical of the late 19th century, a B-western movie, or Western television series."
The first reference I've found about lug soles is for mountaineering shoes in the 1930s.
At one of the early Conventions in Vegas, Tex pushed for a rule eliminating lugged sole footwear. It failed by a wide margin as many clubs believed them necessary as a safety issue.
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I know the rules. They were athletic hiking boots and they were being worn to give the guy an edge on running the stage...I guess that big "Nike" logo on the side of them might have given away the fact that they might not be allowed or within "the Spirit of the Game".
That does not make all hiking boots with lug soles illegal. If the hiking boost are made from leather I have no issue with them. Byu the way lug soles are legal in all categories but 2. Many many shooters use them to keep from falling on their butts. Many folks wear clothing, shoes, etc, to give them an edge running a stage. Some folks do the opposite slowing them selves down with a ton of unused ammo on their belt, wear winter clothing in the summer, extremely large hats, wear tall boots with spurs and high heels, when not needed for their category, etc.
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I remember back in 2001 having a discussion with a kid that was one of the "fast shooters" in SoCal. He was wearing rubber soled and lugged hiking boots. I asked him why he had the same boots on for the last 3 months and he clammed up and stared at me. All of a sudden a bunch of his "hangers on" stepped in to explain that if we make guys like him follow rules and the Spirit of the Game that no new blood will come into this sport.
Yeah, okay...irony....SASS and Clubs allow that C*** and...WOW, looky how this sport is booming. What are we up to in members....500,000? ONE MILLION? Nope....
Gettin' off the box now before I get my dander up....
Pat (what needs a smoke) Riot
But rubber soled lugged hiking boots are legal in all but two categories unless they are made from some exotic material. Read the rules.
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Period Correct and all the others are a waste of time. A shooter showing up in jeans, a plaid flannel shirt, and some form of non baseball hat is legal in our sport except maybe in two categories. There are only things excluded our attire in the rules, ie combat boots, athletic shoes, etc.
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With all the flat pointed ammo for sale, why buy round nose bullets for your rifle. If you already have some round pointed ammo, shoot them in your pistols. You likely would not be injured too badly if a round goes off in your mag while shooting, but it is your arm, hand, fingers and face, not mine.
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There are two campgrounds at Ben Avery with hookups and some non hook up sites. They are the East campground by the public shooting range and the other at the West end Clay Target Center. Winter Range has identified overload spots folks can camp with no hookups of any kind. The East end hookups are water and electricity only with a camgroud dump station. There are also bathrooms with showers at the East campground. I am sure if you are shooting Winter Range and did not get into the East or West campgrounds and are in the no hookup overflow areas I am sure you can use the East campground dump station, bathrooms and showers.
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Not sure if this has come up before and I know I post on here a lot, but I have many questions and appreciate the community's feedback. How often do you gents and ladies clean your firearms? I am mainly inquiring about mainmatch/competition guns, but I am also curious about your other firearms as well. Generally, I like to completely strip and clean my guns the night before and right after matches (monthly and annual). When it comes to shooting outside of the sport, for fun (wait... I thought I did this cowboy thing for fun?), I generally will only snake the barrel and wipe-down the bolt-head if I only shoot one box (20 rounds), but if I shoot 2+ boxes of rifle or shotgun or a full box of handgun (about 50), I will do like I do with competition guns and pull them apart for full cleaning. I am wondering if I am forming a good habit or giving unnecessary attention to my babies?
I clean my cowboy guns once a year whether needed or not.
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Just to start, plain jeans, a long sleeved shirt, a cowboy hat that feels good and looks good on you (not required, but, you know...) and comfortable boots without lugged soles, and you are good to go. You can decide to go fancy at any time.
Maybe all in brown to honor your alias.
lugged soles are legal in all but 2 categories
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I have two SKB's , but I don't know what the "bump stop modification" is. What is it,, please?
An extra little notch put in a lug to hold gun open better while handling and staging. Not enough to notice while shooting tho.
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Same reason some shooters shoot second gen colts instead of clones or Rugers. They like em.
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I think the Royal ones have a lug such that you can not do the hold open mod several folks like me have gotten used to. Keeps the gun open when handling or for vertical staging.
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Blackhawks are not all created equal. Some front sights are removable. Solid brass replacements can be purchased or made. Others can not be easily removed, so thin brass can be shaped to cover the front sight including the rear edge. Once made they can be affixed via adhesive. Once this is done you will likely want to widen the rear sight a touch. That is not easy on a Blackhawk as it seems the inserts are like spring steel. Order some extras from Ruger.
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For our sport many folks point their shotgun with their eyes without using the front bead. If gun fits your build, cheek, etc, you never even notice the front bead. I found the Stoeger, the Browning and even some SKBs did not fit my body. The SKBs with English style flat grip nor full pistol grip stock did not fit. The SKB 100 flat grip stock with small pistol grip fits me perfect.
Bottom line you have to consider how the gun fits your shoulder, cheek, etc. A few years ago I took lessons from a top Sporting Clays lady instructor. She had snap caps with built in lasers. My shotgun had a fully adjustable stock. I thought my stock was adjusted properly. To start my lessons, we were in a room about 20 yards long. She put a dot on the wall and had me mount the shotgun rapidly and fire both barrels at the dot. I missed by 1-2 feet each time. We adjusted the stock so that I could mount the shotgun quickly and hit the dot on the wall within in a couple inches each time.
In my mind there are several items of importance in picking a shotgun. First is fit. Second is the shape of the area at the chamber entrance. Is it designed to easily get 2 rounds into the chambers? Some shotguns have a large spade sticking up between the barrels part of the locking mechanism, and that is bad. Both the Stoeger and SKB have an hour glassed shaped extractor/ejector. A good gunsmith can remove the sides of the top of the hour glassed extractor to make it more like an upside down T. Gunsmith shaping can give this area a mild knife like edge right in the middle between the barrels facing the shooter to ease separation of the rounds into each chamber. Lastly is how easy is the shotgun to handle and move arouond. In my mind lighter is better, so the SKB wins easily.
Between my son and myself we have around 7 SKBs.
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Sitting here looking at the Christmas tree with a nice hot cup of coffee, and watching Trump on FoxNews promise to DTS, I realize, Life is Good! Ammo mostly stockpiled for the coming year, thoughts turn to other fine points of the game...
I see many pards on here singing the praises of their SKBs, and many of the top shooters I know also have SKBs. No doubt, beautiful guns. I have a pair of Stoeger Supremes.
Interested in what you think makes the SKB better than the Stoeger coachgun? I can see better fit and finish-but functionally? Is it the inertial/mech trigger? Does it break/cock easier? Do the better competitors gravitate to the better guns just because they are more durable, more reliable, more beautiful, or because they are actually faster?
Seems to me that loading skills would be way more important than the gun itself...at least that's the skill I need to focus on.
Perhaps this discussion will help others make a decision on which 12 ga double to get.
Kinda like the difference between Corvair versus Corvette. Both will get you down the road. One in style and a bit quicker. One has more built in flaws. If you are just starting a Stoeger is adequate and a lot cheaper. The SKB was the best Japan could make a few years ago. Both need gunsmithing to compete with.
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How much belling and crimping of the mouth you do can negatively effect the life of brass.
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IMHO at least half of match attendees should be awarded in some fashion. New shooters, say first year or so should have an opportunity to be rewarded even special awards for a new shooter category or whatever you want to call it.
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That's what I was afraid of......Looks like I need to find another SKB....
Contact Johnny Meadows.
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We always stayed at Caravan Oasis, on the Fortuna exit.
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How many shooters use factory loaded ammo? If a manufacture offered loaded ammo what caliber, grain bullet would you want. Not looking for every caliber but what main 3-4 would you want. 38 cal in 158,125,110,95? 45 Colt in 250, 200, 185? 44 Special? 32?
Im posing this question because there is talk of a manufacture producing a revolver/lever gun specific ammo for shooting sports. So im looking for honest input from those who shoot factory loads. Obviously many reload and this line would not really apply to them. Just trying to see what key calibers, bullet weight the SASS community would want.
Thank you for any input on this.
Most popular loads in 38 are likely 125 and 105 g truncated cone. In 45 likely 200 and 185 g.
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Progressive press people, Question.....
in SASS Wire
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I have never cleaned primer pockets. Brass goes in cleaner with old primers still in place. After cleaning they get mixed with One Shot then go in 650 to be deprimed, sized, reprimed and loaded. I do not know anyone that cleans primer pockets for SASS shooting. I have brass that has been reloaded way more than 25 times with no issues.