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  1. 49 points
    Howdy, It’s been several years since I’ve posted on the SASS wire even though I’ve followed it all along. Always like to keep up with old friends and see how they’re doing. Now to the point of posting now. This years EOT sounded like it would have been fun to shoot since they’re finally moving the targets back out and making people use a little brain power to work their way through a stage. The dumbfounding thing that changed over the last few years is saying a stage was unfair because there was a missable target on it. Or it took too much thinking. Remember visiting with Hipshot around 2001 and he stated at that time a World Champion should be diverse in all skills. That means close, far, up and down, movement, reloading on the clock, hit a bird from flippers and launched plus transitions. Most think the multitude of categories is a good thing. I disagree. The reason is, it puts pressure on everyone to place as high as possible so they’re not embarrassed by placing last or towards the bottom of their very small category. In the older days with fewer categories there were always at least 10 in the bulk of them, so the bottom didn’t have to go up front and divulge their finish. They could simply have fun and learn from the experience and try for a top ten at the next match. It used to be a win to even get to the top 10 in a category. Years ago, the top shooters in SASS were well respected by the other shooting sports and manufactures due to the diverse skills it took to be successful. I realize a lot of people here don’t care, but you should. Advertising dollars comes with this respect which means a healthy prosperous SASS and more shooters in our game. In today’s SASS, some gun mods have reached the point of dangerous for the sake of a few milliseconds in time saved. In my opinion, these have come about due to extremely close targets that requires the shooter only to have the ability to operate the firearm as fast as possible. Sight picture and trigger control were thrown out the window. If SASS intends to continue this trend of moving targets back out and make it a shooting match instead of an operating match, you’ll see me back at the major cowboy matches. And it’s not just me. I’ve visited with many old friends that left SASS for this very reason. Some of the well-known mods are removing the transfer bar from Rugers and the lever assist links put in the 73’s. It doesn’t take but one accident with the Ruger or a blown up 73 to bankrupt SASS. If someone gets hurt or even killed by these mods, a family member can sue not only the gunsmith and the person that owns the gun, but also SASS for knowingly allowing these mods in their game and on their range. The signed waiver by the shooters will not be worth the paper it’s written on. It’s a long story, but I sat on a witness stand 35 years ago for 6+ hours and the company I worked for lost millions. They supplied power to a county fair facility but didn’t owned anything behind the primary metering. Two county employees were killed. The reason they lost was because they knowingly provided power to an unsafe facility. SASS is knowingly providing a venue for guns the manufactures have deemed unsafe. For the good of SASS, my hope is they will move the targets out and stagger a few. Most of these mods would not help a competitor and would go away if they do. Long Hunter SASS #20389
  2. 41 points
    There has been a fair amount of discussion on the evolution of the game. A good percentage of the time it leans towards the negative side of things. I fully understand and respect both sides of the camp because I've been fortunate enough to experience the game in both it's "old" form and "new" form not only as a shooter but also as a match director. It is a bonafide fact that the game has changed. It's never been easier to start the game right now with gear and knowledge that folks 15-25 years ago didn't have. A couple of weeks ago and old shooting buddy and I were laughing and remembering back when we were all just desperately trying to get our guns to work right and for all our bullets to leave the barrels. Some of my best memories revolve around the struggles of figuring the game out. In my area we had a lot of former buckskinnners and mountain man guys, that was hoot and those guys were fun to watch and a lot of them shot original stuff. To them it was an extension of something they liked to do with a very light hearted competitive atmosphere. The seriousness of the game was reserved for "big matches" and far away places like EOT or WR where a midwesterner could only dream about possibly attending someday. A lot of folks first priorities was to make sure they looked right and like they belonged there when it came to their clothing. I still remember a half dozen of us standing around the guy with the first Codymatic any of us had ever seen. Reactions ranged from "why would you want to do that" to "wow thats cool". The rulebook was tiny (literally) and if you were a gamer you carried a Schofield for reloads on the clock and Blackhawks actually were an advantage for the targets we were shooting in the day. Guys and gals still wanted to win, but it was a desire that you really didn't talk about and almost taboo. I remember one noted local shooter that carried both Vaqueros and Blackhawks to every match and would adjust his category according to who pulled into the parking lot that morning. I think that many of the old timers would agree that we had a larger percentage of established "shooters" in the game. Former bullseye shooters, skeet and trap, ICORE, silhouette etc. Then came the massive influx of new shooters. Many whom had never owned a firearms before or if they did it had gotten very limited use. Targets moved in closer, our rule book got bigger to accommodate the "evolution" of the game and the competitiveness and a lot of the stuff we used to do on the clock faded away. It didn't happen overnight. But it did happen. Sometimes I miss those days. But most of the time I'm pretty content with where we are today and that is largely due to my personal enjoyment of the game outside of the shooting. We need to do a better job of being patient with each other. Both camps. You can't ask folks to have reverence for something they NEVER experienced. And you cannot dismiss the "old timers" who miss the way it used to be done. There is a middle ground there. I'm not sure exactly where it is. But I think it would lead to a healthier game for all of us. But it starts with folks having a better understanding of each other. I don't believe there is a wrong or a right way here. We have rules and those are the boundaries that we play within. And in the end the game is still what YOU make of it.
  3. 38 points
    For those of you interested on a update on SASS Kicker: she got the results from her MCAT test and scored a 511 which is in the 83 percentile of all medical students taking the test. This will allow her to apply for the medical schools she is interested in. SASS Kicker is engaged and will be married in June 2020. And yes she is still interested in Cowboy Action Shooting and has a very supportive fiance. I got to shoot with her several months ago at a local match and she still has it. Unfortunately we got rained out after 2 stages. Cody just graduated from the Fire Academy and is pursing his degree in fire science. He graduates from high school in the next three weeks. Thank you for helping me raise two kids. SASS is an incredible family experience.
  4. 27 points
    I was invited by Rattler (John) to come down to Tucson and shoot with the Pima Pistoleros. Rattler said it was a nice group of folks - With some folks that I know and respect trying to make a real go of a small club. But since it is a LONG stinkin' way from Las Vegas to Tucson (410 miles one way) for a monthly shoot (I guess technically, it is a long stinkin' way to Tucson period - but that's immaterial); Painted Lady, Desert Scorpion and myself decided we would make a weekend out of it. I skipped out of work on Friday, (it's nice to be the boss sometimes) and we got on the road. Into Phoenix - right as afternoon rush hour began. (I have driven thru Phoenix an infinite number of times - I know you drive thru Phoenix either early - early or late - late and yet every time - I manage to do it at rush hour.) So after an hour and a half covering 20 miles of fabulously maintained Phoenix highways (I certainly hope they eventually find the folks in that Mini Cooper that fell into a pothole and vanished); we were thru and driving toward Tucson. Passing signs for Rooster Cogburns ostrich farm inviting me to "Pet the Stingrays" and signs for me to see the "THING" (mummified mother and child from the late 1800's and an assortment of oddities). I regale Scorpion and Lady with stories from my youth traveling Michigan to Florida and the myriad of roadside attractions from "See Rock City" painted on (it seemed) every barn roof and side to Mystery houses where gravity and physics were defied. Part of me wonders (somewhat sadly); with the advent of Google and smartphones, how many of these attractions have lapsed because the traveler no longer has to stop and explore. A few keystrokes and decent WiFi tells them all the secrets. We end up at our hotel in Tucson; unload the SUV and carry all our guns and gear inside. Then back on the road to "Trail Dust Town" (a longtime Tuscon western town themed attraction with Horse Soldier Museum, Pinnacle Peak Steakhouse, various shops, gold panning, quarter shooting gallery and Wild West stunt show). A cowboy steak dinner and we shuffle into the stunt show arena for deliberately bad jokes, intentional bad acting and pretty nifty falls and fights. My girls responding proudly when asked where we from and why we were in town, "We are here to do some real cowboy shooting... We don't use blanks" After pointing out the use of blanks ensures the actors can do a 2nd evening show - we clarified our game for the actors and audience and perhaps gained some interest. Full bellies and a long ride make for sleepy cowboys - so off to bed and to Pima in the morning. We make our way to the Pima Pistol Club and check in; as I stand waiting my turn in my stupid big hat, high waisted pants, suspenders, and striped shirt - The fellow at sign up still felt required to ask if I was here for the cowboy match? The match was a lot of fun - I shot decently (other than a 97 shotgun that went rogue on me); but ended up 3rd overall behind some really good shooters. Scorpion shot well and Painted Lady, well, lets just say she had fun. A really good group of folks and the opportunity to catch up with some old friends and make some new ones. We shook hands all around after the match and headed back to the hotel. A change of clothes and a quick rest. A little Google searching had alerted us to an Asian Lantern Festival taking place on the zoo grounds. So enter the address into the phone and make our way to Reid Park Zoo, adjacent to the ASU baseball stadium. We enter the zoo intent on finding animals as darkness fell; but as the darkness grew; suddenly we were surrounded by beautiful illuminated lanterns with intricate designs, patterns and meanings. A giant dragon (approx. 20 foot high and perhaps 40 yards long), reined supreme over the grounds, along with life size lanterns representing the animals that occupy the enclosures nearby. Asian troupes performed dances and tumbled to music. And all too soon; yet another day was complete. Desert Scorpion enjoys Renaissance fairs and the sight of an advert. regarding the Arizona Renaissance Festival in Gold Canyon sealed the deal - Painted Lady and myself were made aware, in no uncertain terms, where events Sunday would be taking place. Ok; no big deal. I have been to a couple Renaissance fairs with Scorpion here in Las Vegas; an hour at most - in and out. See some bad costumes - chomp on a turkey leg... We will be on the road home by noon. Uhmmm no. 300+ acres of festival grounds - theater groups - live jousting events - elephant rides (not sure where the elephants fit into the theme, but Scorpion and Lady enjoyed their ride). Jugglers, sword swallowers, mermaids and fire eaters. Lords and Ladies, Elves and Hobbits, Squires and Wenches (I do have to admit; I enjoy the wenches attire {or lack thereof}... perhaps i shouldn't have committed that to writing?) We leave the festival at 6pm closing time - dust covered and exhausted (and in the case of Scorpion and Lady - smelling a bit like elephant). Having zero interest in driving 7 hours home after this day - we find another hotel for the night. Going to dinner; we are served by our waitress "Raven" - when I ask if her parents were Edgar Allan Poe fans, she stares at me blankly. A quick, "Quoth the Raven, Nevermore" reference and she walks away quite unsure about the giggling sunburned weirdos seated in her section. I hope we sparked a desire to read the poem or at least inspired a smart phone look up. This morning was Monday - while most have started their work week; we are still playing tourist. (did I mention, it is sometimes good to be boss? Of course - I spent most of the morning on my phone putting out fires {poorly}) A casual get up and around - it's time to make myself a waffle for breakfast (tho it actually went, make a waffle, which was then promptly stolen by Scorpion; make a 2nd waffle which somehow ended up with Painted Lady), THEN make myself a waffle. (I'm not even a huge fan of waffles - but if your hotel chain provides me with the opportunity to make waffles - doggone it, I'm making waffles) I notice that we are not that far away from Wild West Mercantile; so yet another side trip is created and we visit the long time SASS sponsor. The girls keep looking at all the gorgeous finery and I keep pointing out the signs directing shoppers to the Bargain Corral... A horrendous beating of my Discover card and a few bags of goodies later and it is actually time to head for home. A tank of gas, a potty break or two and we are home. When the folks at work ask what we did this weekend - Ill keep it simple and say; we went shooting. And that's what we did - that's why my family piled into our vehicle and traveled nearly a 1000 miles. I love shooting; but the shooting is just a reason to go. And the shoot is only a couple minutes of shooting time. But the rest of the time - we laugh. We share stories. We explore. Make memories and grow closer. Like I said, I love to shoot... But I think, the real reason I love this game is all the wonderful experiences we have together because of the places we go shooting.
  5. 26 points
    Yes, you lose to the shooters who didn't blow any stages, have no rifle jams, had no dud pistol rounds, didn't drop shotgun shells, and had no procedurals. Total time is the best and most fair way to go. --Dawg
  6. 26 points
    After 43 years in education, I turned in my papers today. Many fellow teachers asked what I was going to do. Shoot more matches was my reply! I'm tired of letting this work stuff get in the way of cowboy shooting.
  7. 25 points
    Or, as a shooter, learn to shoot close or far targets, big and small, and go have fun!
  8. 25 points
    I know what you mean. I had a period correct, 4th generation Colt, calvary model (from just after the war of northern aggression), in .45 Long Colt and some guy called it a Remmie. I was pretty annoyed and thought about grabbing my shotty and putting a couple boolets in his butt. Then I thought: Life's too short to sweat the small stuff and went on my way. Angus
  9. 25 points
    After nine months of extensive treatment including hormone treatment, forty five radiation sessions and multiple cycles of chemo I rang the bell. With the exception of the hormone treatments which will continue for two more years I am finished with treatment and cancer free Now back to living with what ever my new normal will be
  10. 24 points
    Just a short story, I'm not particularly proud of my actions conversely not ashamed either. It was a rather dark and stormy afternoon in mid-winter Salt Lake City. As I approached the doors to a large mall a young man cruised into the handicapped space near the door. As I approached the car I noticed that there were no handicapped plates nor a mirror tag on the car. As the driver exited his car a hurried toward the door I said "did you know that's a handicapped space?". His response "I'm in a hurry A** hole. My response "how long do you figure it'll take to change 4 flat tires". He looked at me with a quizzical look and went back and moved his car.
  11. 23 points
    X = holster (any type) * = belly button X * X = OK XX * = NOT OK * XX = NOT OK
  12. 23 points
    And you get another P for the illegible font.
  13. 23 points
    Well, it had to happen. Kaya finally got her drivers license. She has been saving for quite a while to buy her own truck. She is using mine for now. My NEW truck, God help me. Wants to be able to pull the boat and haul her own deer if need be. So where does she go on her first drive alone? TO A GUN SHOP FOR POWDER, PRIMERS AND HOPPES #9! Could it get better than that?!? LOL Love ya Punkin. Now she can haul her own deer! Still washing the last one out of the bed of mine.
  14. 22 points
    I went to Las Vegas on Sunday to attend my grandson's graduation from high school yesterday. After getting in some time with the family he said "Grandpa, would you come with me for a bit? I need your advice." Well, hell yes. We went to a gun shop in North Vegas and he asked me to help him buy his first gun. After trying out several and rejecting them as "Overburdened with macho crap", (his words, not mine) we narrowed it down to three 12 gauge pump guns and he settled on a Maverick made overseas and assembled here by Mossberg. A right good starter gun and he saved enough money to buy a couple of boxes of shells, a cleaning kit, and a pretty nice cover for it...and had enough left to take his girlfriend and his best buddy of fourteen years out for a pizza. His final comment as they walked out the door was "I'll learn all I can with this one and maybe someday I'll find something really great to replace it with, but I'll always keep this one for sentimental reasons." Next stop is college. My wife would have been very proud of him I know I am.
  15. 21 points
    Not sure I can call it a clean match shooting Frontiersman, but I finally shot a whole match today with no misses, no penalties, and no safety violations! It was a BLAST!
  16. 21 points
    I saw a meme on Facebook a few days ago that said to answer unknown callers on your phone with “It’s done, but there’s blood everywhere” and see if you get a response. So a couple of days ago my cell phone howled (howling coyote ringtone) and the number wasn’t in my contacts list. Normally I just ignore those calls and they go away without leaving a message. This time I answered it, and in a loud whisper said, “Okay, it’s done but there’s blood everywhere!” Silence on the line for about five seconds or so, then “beep”, whoever it was hung up. I personally found it immensely entertaining...
  17. 20 points
    Around age 10 my dad got me one of those little badass compound bow beginner kits. Of course, the first month I went around our land sticking arrows in anything that could get stuck by an arrow. Did you know that a 1955 40 horse Farmall tractor tire will take 6 rounds before it goes down? Tough sun of a gun. That got boring, so being the 10 yr. old Dukes of Hazard fan that I was, I quickly advanced to taking strips of cut up T-shirt doused in chainsaw gas tied around the end and was sending flaming arrows all over the place. One summer afternoon, I was shooting flaming arrows into a large rotten oak stump in our backyard. I looked over under the carport and see a shiny brand new can of starting fluid (Ether). A light bulb went off in my head. I grabbed the can and set it on the stump. I thought that it would probably just spray out in a disappointing manner. Lets face it, to a 10 yr old mouth-breather like myself, Ether really doesn't "sound" flammable. So, I went back into the house and got a 1 pound can of black powder for muzzle loader rifles. At this point, I set the can of ether on the stump and opened up the can of black powder. My intentions were to sprinkle a little bit around the Ether can but it all sorta dumped out on me. No biggie, a 1 lb. black powder and 16 oz Ether should make a loud pop, kinda like a firecracker you know? You know what? Screw that I'm going back in the house for the other can, so I got a second can of black powder and dumped it too. Now we're cookin'. I stepped back about 15 ft and lit the 2 stroke arrow. I drew the nock to my cheek and took aim. As I released I heard a clunk as the arrow launched from my bow. In a slow motion time frame, I turned to see my dad getting out of the truck... OH SHOOT! He just got home from work. So help me God it took 10 minutes for that arrow to go from my bow to the can. My dad was walking towards me in slow motion with a XXX look in his eyes. I turned back towards my target just in time to see the arrow pierce the starting fluid can right at the bottom. Right through the main pile of black powder and into the can. Oh shoot. When the shock wave hit it knocked me off my feet. I don't know if it was the actual compression wave that threw me back or just reflex jerk back from 235 fricking decibels of sound. I caught a half a millisecond glimpse of the violence during the initial explosion and I will tell you there was dust, grass, and bugs all hovering 1 ft above the ground as far as I could see. It was like a little low to the ground layer of dust fog full of grasshoppers, spiders, and a worm or two. The daylight turned purple. Let me repeat this... THE COTTON PICKING DAYLIGHT TURNED PURPLE. There was a big sweet gum tree out by the gate going into the pasture. Notice I said "was". That sucker got up and ran off. So here I am, on the ground blown completely out of my shoes with my thundercats T-Shirt shredded, my dad is on the other side of the carport, having what I can only assume is, a Vietnam flashback: ECHO BRAVO CHARLIE YOU'RE BRINGIN' EM IN TOO CLOSE!! CEASE FIRE. DAMN IT CEASE FIRE!!!!! His hat has blown off and is 30 ft behind him in the driveway. All windows on the north side of the house are blown out and there is a slow rolling mushroom cloud about 2000 ft. over our backyard. There is a Honda 185 3 wheeler parked on the other side of the yard and the fenders are drooped down and are now touching the tires. I wish I knew what I said to my dad at this moment. I don't know - I know I said something. I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear inside my own head. I don't think he heard me either... not that it would really matter. I don't remember much from this point on. I said something, felt a sharp pain, and then woke up later. I felt a sharp pain, blacked out, woke later....repeat this process for an hour or so and you get the idea. I remember at one point my mom had to give me CPR. and Dad screaming "Bring him back to life so I can kill him again". Thanks Mom. One thing is for sure... I never had to mow around that stump again. Mom had been complaining about that thing for years and dad never did anything about it. I stepped up to the plate and handled business. Dad sold his muzzle loader a week or so later. I still have some sort of bone growth abnormality, either from the blast or the beating, or both. I guess what I'm trying to say is, get your kids into archery. It's good discipline and will teach them skills they can use later on in life.
  18. 20 points
    I have noticed a trend in CAS in the last couple of years where shooters are attacking other shooters, mostly on social media... Wether it be posting a video in poor taste just to stir the pot, calling someone inappropriate names, accusing others of cheating off the range instead of handling it like adults while at an event, starting false rumors about others, or even make threatening comments to another shooter. I believe that if we all want to continue to play this game...we should be promoting SASS through respect and good sportsmanship before shooting skills and titles. We need to grow and encourage youth and families to join for the next generation of cowboy shooters. When you post negative comments about others online, people who may become interested in CAS could possibly be steered away because of what they see. Let us show the world how much fun they are missing out on! Be nice to folks and they will do the same in return.... If you have a problem with someone, talk to them about it before creating a false reputation for that person...(BE AN ADULT) We should all be friends and cheer our competitor on when they are doing well and we are not, because at the end of the day...we are just there to visit with our cowboy family.....at least thats why I continue to be involved. Love one another like Jesus does, shoot your best, and always have fun! Your friend on and off the range, PK
  19. 20 points
    This Memorial Day, I'm remembering SPC Alexis Dos Santos. She was assigned to my headquarters company as a property book analyst. While going through a contentious divorce, she decided to take her own life on February 15, 2019. I haven't posted anything here because I've been trying to process everything myself. On the day she died, I happened to be in Arizona for the funeral of another soldier who had died in an off-duty accident when I got the phone call. I went to the hospital, still in full dress uniform from the previous funeral, and spent the entire evening there with her two beautiful children. They were too young to understand they would never see their mother again, and it broke my heart. I went into the hospital room where SPC Dos Santos was being kept alive. The hospital staff told me they were merely keeping her alive long enough for her mother to arrive, at which time she would get a few last moments with her and then be removed from life support. The mother arrived about 10 pm, and SPC Dos Santos was taken off of life support and passed within minutes. A few weeks later I flew down to Biloxi, MS to attend her funeral. I found myself as the only white person in an all-black church in the deep South, so I was given a few sideways glances. I was also the only military person there, and because I looked different than anyone else in a part of the country where racial tension has been bad for two hundred years, people left a wide berth around me when we all sat down. Then the pastor asked for anyone who wanted to speak about her. I got up and approached the microphone and told the family all about their little girl, mother, cousin, and friend. I told them what a great soldier she had been, and how her death had affected an entirely different family they had never met. The crowd's perception of me changed dramatically, and suddenly the racial tension was gone. I was grieving with them and did not matter what my skin color was or how I was dressed. We were all friends, and all grieving together. At the graveside, I warned all the family members when the rifle shots were going to come, knowing they would jump otherwise. But there is something about those rifle shots that make the finality of everything very, very real. We all jumped anyway. Then the color guard folded the flag and gave it to me, and I handed it to her mother "On behalf of the President of the United States, the United States Army, and a grateful nation..." It was by far the most difficult thing I've ever done. I can handle getting shot at; in fact, I'd rather do that again (even not knowing the outcome) than have to hand another folded flag to a grieving mother. SPC Dos Santos, I hope you found the peace you were looking for. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I stand for the national anthem.
  20. 20 points
    Something moved me to post this tonight. I was thinking of Judge'm All Duncan. As I said in the post about his death I didn't know him as well as some of you. I met him a few years ago and right away hit it off with him and since have stayed in touch and have been to a handful of matches together. Looking at Facebook tonight it really hit me on how much that man touched the numerous lives of others. Facebook has been a sea of photos and stories about "The Judge". What I have been thinking about is this, The Best and Worst of Cowboy Action Shooting is the same thing. The People. This sport provides such a great avenue to meet some of the best people on this planet. But with that avenue of meeting so many folks and obtaining so many friends and "family", also comes the inevitable realization that some of those friends will leave us... sooner than we would like. For me it's a blessing and a curse that I am one of the "young" ones in the sport (age 40). I have been involved in Cowboy Action for 14 years and met so many great friends over that time, some of them twice my age. On one hand I found this sport when I was young and have more time to enjoy it but on the other it gives me chills to think about what the next 20 years will look like. I guess why I am posting this is because days like this you realize how fragile life is. Enjoy it, tell all your friends in this sport how much you appreciate them and love them. You are not guaranteed tomorrow. Seeing that wave of posts on Facebook about Judge really makes you think about how you can influence others. I sure hope I could have a fraction of the influence on people that Judge did. - Bubba
  21. 20 points
    Snakebite always has a way of hitting dead center of the issue! Nobody ever wants to run participants off for any reason! But, the cause of this issue is easily seen if you just look through all the threads. Folks ask "How do I get better?" and the answer is always - practice, practice, practice. That is for sure the truth! BUT - over the years, the modifications to firearms and other equipment has always been geared toward increasing speed. That has resulted in the comments about "speed demons" and "gamers". But the reality of this issue is that those whose primary desire is to win, know, beyond any shadow of doubt, that they cannot practice all of the "other" stuff referenced as being from the "old days". The only thing they can realistically control is practice with their firearms, movement to and from shooting positions and the "all important" transition time from firearm to firearm and shot to shot. Top shooters are always going to be top shooters - stock guns and equipment or not. One of the above posts mentions folks getting bored with a stand and deliver 10-10-4 stage. It would be SO easy to put in some "fun" stuff in a stage like that - throw a knife, turn a card, shoot a bow and arrow, throw a stick of dynamite, throw a hat, etc. Those would not alter times enough to cause any major backups in any size match. BUT, once again, the evolution of the game toward speed, speed, speed gets match directors who use those kinds of things chastised in many cases. And, those "Top Shooters" whose only desire is to win, just cannot live with any sort of "chance" being allowed in the game. Among many other things, that opportunity at a "chance" from an average shooter to be able to score higher than a "top shooter" as a result of sheer luck or being in the "right place at the right time" and the 15 seconds of fame associated with that is priceless to that average shooter. My experience is that those "average" shooters make up large numbers and likely pay the lion share of the bills at most matches. I was honored to be the match director at the Shootout at Mule Camp for 14 years. We tried all kinds of those "fun" things. One of the most discussed was derived from a Tom Mix silent movie. The scenario started with the line "Action", then shooting each firearm from inside train cars from four different positions and when finished shooting, using a movie set "clap board" (which didn't effect the timer) so the last shot fired was the time elapsed. The caveat to this stage was that, since it was a Silent Movie, you would receive a 5 second bonus if you completed the stage without saying ANYTHING until after the Clap Board was done. Statistics from that stage yielded some 40% of shooters did not receive the bonus. And yes, on many posses, there became quite a bit of heckling between friends/shooters while and after shooting the stage. As harmless as it was, we received LOTS of complaints about that not being in the spirit of the game. During my tenure, we never tried that again at Mule Camp matches but our local folks enjoyed it so much that the concept was used in many monthly matches. Another instance was that we had some exploding targets with a 3/4" area that would ignite the target and make a BIG boom. We had a target made specifically for it with a matching 3/4" hole that allowed the bright red target area to be easily seen. The target was a 16" plate overall placed at 6 yards and was the last shot engaged (pistol or rifle). If the shooter missed the entire 16" plate, it obviously was a miss. If the target was hit, it was a hit - period. But if the shooter hit the center hole, the target made a BIG BOOM and the shooter received a 5 second bonus. The name of the stage was No Boom, No Bonus. Those that wanted to take additional time to aim precisely could do that, otherwise they could speed right along. The "average" shooters LOVED this one but the "top" shooters were vehemently upset with it. We had a stage once that required the shooter to sit on a buckboard seat and shoot all four guns. Four shotgun targets were directly in front of the "wagon" and the stage began with the shooter holding the "reins" (ropes attached to the shotgun targets for resetting). The shooter had to pull the shotgun targets up first before shooting the first firearm. Our idea was that the stage would take a bit more time since the shooter had to get into the wagon seat but we would overcome that additional time by not having to reset targets. In theory, it worked great but we got criticized for requiring all shooting to be done from a seated position - voiced the loudest by those "top shooters" who did not practice that concept. I have shot matches that required the shooter to put together a Colt style revolver that had the cylinder and cylinder pin removed. Seems harmless, right??? You would be amazed at the number of shooters that have never done that - especially those that shoot Rugers. Shooting from "horses" used to be a normal part of the game but has gone away in the bigger matches due to the additional time required. So, the bottom line is that, regardless what you try, some will like it and some will not. But I firmly believe that the vast majority of shooters enjoy the non-shooting "fun" aspects that used to always be a part of the game way back when. And, the vast majority of the shooters don't spend much time worrying about calculating how much the total receipts for a match are due to the number of shooters participating. As Snakebite has so eloquently said many times, Cowboy Action Shooting belongs to the shooters. Read that carefully - it does say Cowboy not just Action Shooting. And yes, that does relate to the dress requirements but it also relates to the shooting scenarios when it all started years ago and for MANY years thereafter. Nowadays, that Action part relates more to the amount of time it takes to cycle the action of each firearm. Some long for the "old" days, others not so much.
  22. 19 points
    The World Record Stage set by Lead Dispencer about 10 years ago has been broken by Matt Black. Spencer laid down a very impressive 13.16 a record that has stood for many years. Matt black has the utmost respect for Spencer and he has been an inspiration throughout his shooting career. The target size and distance is what makes this stand and deliver stage a tough one to surpass. Matt Black was successful and set the new record at 11.92. He did this not long before he won Overall at EOT this year. I have been reluctant to post on here due to the wire being a hostile environment at times however I know there are some folks out there who would like to see this accomplishment. I hope the moderators will keep an eye on this post as I don’t want any issues with it. Please be kind or say nothing at all thank you
  23. 19 points
    Grand Daughter was chosen to model boots for Corral Boots. Here is the Still photo on the back cover of Cowgirl Magazine. She is also in their latest video add. "You can't be half in or half out. There is no pretending." From their FB page (Sorry it isn't out on youtube yet)
  24. 19 points
    I’m surprised some of you folks find fault with the shop owner. He was solicited and donated to the local clubs event. Wrongly treated by a jack ass and decided he would not deal with that garbage again. The fact that the club didn’t find out about it until a year later when they came around with their hand out tells something of how much the club supported the shop. Works both ways! Still, a very sad story.
  25. 18 points
    Robert F. De Groff, Sr. 1925-2007 Dad was always my hero. From him I learned honesty, integrity, humor, courage, humility, and compassion. He was a man willing to sacrifice for his family and always ready to help a friend in need. He never met a man who didn't like him. The world was enriched by his presence and is a poorer place with his passing. He left us wanting to be with him just a little longer, to hear him laugh and joke once more. He left us with the same quiet dignity as he had lived and went to join his wife Helen, our beloved mother... The pain of his passing is tempered by the joy in having known him. Dad the SCout Dad and his mom Dad and Mom in the 70s A teen with a need for speed. Playing cowboy 2006 Me and Dad about 1950 Home on leave during the war In Japan after the surrender. I'd smile too. I still have his wings and ID bracelet his parents gave him.
  26. 18 points
    I would like to chime in from the business owner's perspective. I own my own business. We are a body shop and you can ask any of my pards, if I am not shooting, I am working. I get solicited multiple times a month to sponsor this or asked for a donation to that. Folks, those sponsorship and donation dollars have to come from somewhere. They come from the bottom line. You know what else comes from the bottom line? The owner's paycheck. When I donate $50 or $100, that is $50 or $100 that I don't have to pay myself. I am assuming the gun shop owner is in the same boat. His generosity has gone unthanked from shooters in the past and then this time around, he is insulted by one. I would yank my support as well. As small business owners we work more hours in a week than most do in a month, we don't qualify for things like workers compensation or unemployment so if something happens we are a$$ out and most frustrating of all, there are many times when we don't take a paycheck because the money is going to pay employees or suppliers. Being a business owner is no walk in the park, that is why the vast majority of you are employees and not entrepreneurs. I would be doing whatever I could to make things right with the gun shop owner and his son and I would be banning the ass hat who caused the problem from any future shoots.
  27. 18 points
    Almost forgot. Once I went into a 7-11 and the two smart***es behind the counter were openly making fun of me and giggling like little girls. I think they were high. I went back to the cooler, grabbed a couple Pepsi’s, slid my wild rag up to cover my face (like a bad guy) and then quickly walked up to the counter, sat my sodas down and and said, very loudly “What are you ladies laughing about?” The color drained from their faces. ”Don’t just stand there. Ring me up and get the register open..............I need change...” They both stood there trying to figure out what was happening and I loudly said “C’mon, I ain’t got all day.” And tossed a twenty on the counter. The one kid rang me up, shaking wildly and gave me my change. I tipped my hat and walked out. As I was getting into my truck a guy came out of the store laughing like crazy and he yelled over to that I made his day. Made mine too.
  28. 18 points
    Trusting a stranger is pretty much unheard of in today's world. That's why this group of cowboys is so special. I found something in Classifieds that I couldn't live without, a little pre-1900 specialty. I contacted the seller, Dakota Fox, and put a PO MO in the mail at lunchtime on Friday, and pm'ed him to tell him. I checked the mail box on Monday, and there it is, waiting for me. It made me feel good that a stranger trusted me enough to send his package before my money arrived. "Stranger" might not be the right word, maybe "friend that I haven't met yet". Anyway, I just wanted to tell others about a stand-up cowboy that I encountered, and would ride the trail with any day. Thanks kindly, Dakota Fox.
  29. 17 points
    I can't believe it's july 9th and people are still shooting fireworks. Just last night someone almost caught some of our Christmas decorations on fire.
  30. 17 points
    I was the Match Director and I was at the loading table. As soon as I heard the OBD I set my pistols on the loading table, and moved forward to access the event and I shut everyone down. Yes, the shooter could have moved to the next shooting position and shot the rest of the stage. However, the shooter was a little confused as were the rest of the posse members including myself. Rather than risk more confusion on the stage I made the determination to allow the reshoot because I shut him down to insure the safety of everyone on the posse. It was a learning experience.
  31. 17 points
    Or daughter decided that she wanted to be like mommy and wants to shoot. So after a while working with gun safety this week was her first dry fire practice session. Now all I hear is, "can I practice? " we've created a monster ...
  32. 17 points
    Case in point to Roy's Creek Dan's post regarding 29 clean shooters and "the difficulty of the match compared to the last 5 or so years". Does anyone remember why T.A. Chance became the match director for EOT a few years ago? It is my understanding it was related to a major decline in attendance due in large part to difficult stages and/or distant targets, etc. T.A. Chance is the match director for Bordertown/Arizona State Match, which is one of the most popular in the country, i.e. it sells outs every year shortly after apps are available. Bordertown is known as a "big and close" match, which is popular with a lot of shooters. He designed stages for EOT that were well received and the attendance numbers began increasing. Those stages had lots of variety with a mixture of target size and distance along with interesting scenarios. T.A. retired after being co-match director with Lassiter the final year, which I believe was 2017. So, I believe what Phantom and Creeker as well as others including me are looking at regarding EOT this year is that it was changed quite a bit from what those of us attending for the last 5-6 years had become accustomed to. Also, please remember SASS is a business and that business is selling entertainment. If people are not having fun - the majority that is - they will go elsewhere to spend their time and money. We all know you can't possibly please everyone, but if you don't please the core group the business cannot survive. In comparing this year's scores with 2018 and 2017 (rank scoring final year) here is what I saw: Place 2019 2018 2017 1st 181.21 180.77 179.09 5th 217.86 195.27 186.61 10th 228.34 202.23 204.93 15th 237.38 206.52 210.51 20th 243.65 210.91 224.24 30th 253.27 222.30 220.96 50th 272.85 236.92 244.09 100th 298.76 266.43 266.86 150th 326.22 288.31 286.04 200th 351.10 311.66 309.19 As has been said many times, the top shooters will be the top shooters regardless of the stage setup. However, you will notice a sharp increase in total time even at 5th place and going higher through 200th place and beyond. Also, what do these higher scores do to the overall time required to complete the match when you have 500-600 shooters? PLEASE DO NOT take this in any way other than pointing out how the change this year may very well have a huge impact on future attendance. My main concern is the future of EOT and SASS. We all enjoy the game and want to bring in more people to join in the fun!
  33. 17 points
    I guess I misinterpreted what "BBQ gun" meant in the opening question.
  34. 17 points
  35. 17 points
    I met a magical fairy who said she'd grant me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry, I cannot grant you that," replied the magic fairy. "Fine, then I want to die the day after Congress has been filled with honest people who are hard working and genuinely trying to improve the country to everyone's benefit," I replied. "You crafty SOB," said the fairy.
  36. 17 points
    Last night the city of Edgewood NM voted to become a 2nd. Amendment Sanctuary City. Our very own SASS CEO Misty Moonshine and Wildshot spoke at the meeting. I could not be more proud to be a part of a organization that walks the walk. You can listen to the audio here Misty starts at about 1:08-15 followed by WIldshot.
  37. 17 points
    A note to all Forum Users: The goal of the SASS Wire Forums is to provide a fun and resourceful place that users can come and discuss topics in regards to SASS and Cowboy Action Shooting. We also want to celebrate free exchange of information and conversation, and realize that "spirited" discussion can happen at times when the subject matter is one that we feel passionately about. It can be a challenge to express ideas and opinions in the written word and nearly impossible to judge intent of the manner of which it is intended. Please keep that in mind when posting on the forums- be considerate of the challenges we all face when trying to communicate on the SASS Wire. We are not looking to curtail expression- everyone has their opinions and are entitled to them. We want to make sure that everyone is able to participate fully and express themselves without fear of ridicule. There IS a difference between a debate and an argument. Arguments are disrespectful and will not be tolerated. Treating each other with respect is paramount. Please be considerate of the challenges that we all face when trying to communicate on the SASS Wire. Please refer to the following excerpt from the Guidelines: Inappropriate or offensive content and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. To assist in defining inappropriate content, ask yourself the following questions when making a post: - Is this message SASS-related? (with the exception of the Saloon forum) - Is this message something most members would like to read? - Does this message add value to the forum? - Is this something I would say to a person face-to-face? *If you cannot answer yes to all of these questions, please reconsider posting your message. IGNORE FEATURE TIP: If you find there is a forum user that you no longer wish to see posts from,-regardless of the reason, there is a feature built in to the SASS Wire Forums that allows you to "IGNORE" a User. There are a few ways this can be accomplished. You can either hover over the member's icon that you wish to ignore and a "Ignore" option will come up- taking you to your Ignored Users page within YOUR account. This is where you can manage the content you see within the Forums. You can also arrive at your Ignored Users page within your account by clicking on the down arrow next to your name/account info in the top right corner and select "Ignored Users". This is similar to "unfollowing" someone in Facebook. Thank you, Misty Moonshine & the SASS Wire Moderating Team
  38. 16 points
    Longest Pistol Shot was UNDER 7 yards Longest Rifle Shot was 12 yards Closest Pistol Shot was 4 yards Closest Rifle Shot was 7 yards Pistols 4 to 7 yards.....more closer to 6 than 4 Rifle 7 to 12 yards....more closer to 10 than 7 You guys make it sound like a bullseye match when it wasn’t. Do I care for that many cowboy cut-outs? Not really but we’re all shooting the same targets in the same arrays. My first EOT WAS 2010....I shot the SAME steel this year that I shot then. The Match Directors can only put out what they have. I personally don’t like big and close on every stage. Variety is the key to a good match and this was a damn good match. Stan
  39. 16 points
    Another thread got me thinking... Our clubs need more people stepping up to help. There was another thread about a club shutting down at the end of the year. Folks, if we don't want more clubs to shut down, more people need to jump in and help. Get involved. As with other areas of this sport the population is aging. There are folks who have run some of these clubs for a long time. We can not expect the same folks to run the clubs forever. Once these people decide they can't or don't want to do it anymore, then what? Is there enough people willing and ready to take over? If not, the club shuts down, more than likely permanently. Ask to help out at your local club. Ask to be trained. Ask to be part of the future of your club. Especially the younger generation. I think one thing that gets missed is how rewarding it is to run a club. When you get people coming up to you after a match and they say "Thank you, we had a great day", or "This was a great weekend, I really enjoyed it". People want to get away from everyday life at our matches and have fun. Being able to provide that is very rewarding. Not only with being the President or Officer of a club but with all the little things that need done when running a match. Pitch in, show up for setup, paint targets, help with scores, help with awards, volunteer for something. Nothing ruins a club faster than having Club Officers get "Burned Out". When you have a couple people doing setup by themselves all the time. That gets old very quick. Even during the match, make sure you do something, spot, pick brass, etc. I know some folks have limitations but everyone can't sit in the shade. Just something to think about...
  40. 16 points
    All this in 5 minutes... I had some kids outside a Starbucks making fun of me (amongst themselves) as I walked through the parking lot and into the store. When I walked inside everyone stopped and stared for a couple of seconds. A guy says “Hey Tex, what’s up?” I smiled - I freakin’ hate that. He was just being friendly though. The girl at the counter said “What are you all dressed up for?” with a little smirk. I said “Movie shoot. I play the lead bad guy. The movie comes out next Winter but I can’t talk about it. It’s a big budget film with lots of big names.” All of a sudden I was “somebody” and all the folks within earshot appeared envious. (Superficial dimwits). When I walked out the kids were still there and they all faced me and one said “Sir, why are you dressed like that?” I liked that they had some manners. I responded that I was going to a Cowboy Action Shooting match and to shoot “Cowboy” you gotta dress the part. I had their full and undivided attention. I told them CAS was like tactical shooting only with cowboy guns. I told them to look up Cowboy Action Shooting on YouTube. They had completely different attitudes when I departed as compared to when I arrived. They thought CAS sounded “really cool”.
  41. 16 points
    The editorial in the January 2019 Cowboy Chronicle by Pataha, SASS #5191 Is one of the best things that I've read in the Chronicle in many years. I've been beating the drum for such action a very long time. It is indeed a FACT that the game HAS been directed by the Shooting elite. MANY of the rules that we have today were put into place in a failed attempt to stop the game from gong where it has gone. We have come to a point where we put more emphasis on who can move their hand the fastest than we do on anything else in the game. We can NOT go back to the beginning, and I would not even want to try, it simply would not work, but we can learn from the past and inject the best parts of the past into today's game. GAME.... that is what this is suppose to be, A GAME. For years it was the most Wonderful and Fun Game that I have ever been a part of. When some Hotdog can shoot a stage in 12 sec, there isn't much game playing going on. It is going to take an amalgamation of the past with the present if we are to have a bright future. Snakebite
  42. 16 points
    I grew up in the Gila River Valley of Arizona This is 66 miles north of Tucson and approximately 100 miles east of Phoenix. In the late 50's my Dad and I would saddle the horses and cross the river to rope at a little arena that was owned by Johnny Meadows. Johnny was a small stature old cowboy about 5' 4"tall and weighing aprox 125 lbs. He always had a single action army tucked in his belt. 20 years later I was home visiting and started talking to Fred and Jake Upshaw, friends of my Dad. They told me the story of Johnny Meadows. Relating to the article in the chronicle about Judge Roy Bean. The story relayed to me was that George Upshaw was shot by Judge Roy Bean's son and a couple weeks after the shooting the Judge's bar/courtroom burned down. George Upshaw was the father of George Washington Upshaw, who reportedly burned the court house. He then left the state and moved to the Gila River Valley in Arizona named as Johnny Meadows. I heard this story but never new the reliability of it until I saw it written in the article in the chronicle. It only seemed natural that when I started shooting my alias should Johnny Meadows. The last 20 plus years have been great dealing with and shooting with all the fine people that make up Cowboy Action Shooting. Johnny Meadows
  43. 16 points
    SASS picked up a new shooter yesterday. Shootin Sharyn and I were joined by the Iron Cowboy (he’s not new he started shooting SASS 5 years ago) and Kid Flash who is 9. He struggled a bit with the rifle, it’s heavy for him, and left eye dominance will need to be addressed, but he made it all the way through and had a blast. Now if we can just get Lethal Lizzie over her shyness and on the range we’ll be a five shooter family. Kid, Cowboy, and Sharyn all won their categories. Dad limped across the finish line in third place.
  44. 16 points
    I’m suprised (and I shouldn’t be) by the amount of pot stirring over a gesture. We are not talking a major rule change or a massive dues increase. It’s a pin to celebrate yearly members and a gesture by SASS to show appreciation. Thats it. No conspiracy, no intended exclusion. And patience in receiving the pins will have to be used. Have talked to several life members who think it’s great and don’t need a pin themselves.
  45. 16 points
  46. 15 points
    I hear what everyone is saying on this topic... i like to shoot cowboy action. I don’t care where the targets are, I don’t care if I have to “ride a stick horse” or shuffle cards on or off the clock. This GAME is fun and that’s why I play. It’s also my business - which I take very seriously. However, you could ensure that every cowboy or cowgirl shot a clean match with no prop failures or blind spotters along with perfect weather and I promise you people would find something to complain about... That is the part of this game that, honestly, makes me sad. This is such fun and yet, there’s so much to complain about... somewhere there is a disconnect. I wish I knew what it was because I’d try to work it out. I get that it’s competition...however, once Monday morning comes, we are back to our “real selves” (unless you’re me ). Please understand, I am NOT advocating for a stick horse or shuffling cards....I’m just here to play, have fun, make friends...and dress up, shoot real guns at steel and have a blast. Great Big Happy Hugs! Scarlett
  47. 15 points
    Lefty shot an amazing match to finish 2nd overall the highest finish of a gunfighter ever at EOT.
  48. 15 points
    Lost our beloved Yellow Lab almost a year ago. Figured it was time.... (PS - click on the video link after the last pic) 2019_04_13_CHEDDAR.MOV
  49. 15 points
    Why Carry a Gun? Author Unknown.
  50. 15 points
    I remember the days when we had to turn over a cards, flipped a pancakes, threw the tomahawks, retriving the keys for a jail break, shot at hangmans nooses, carried bags of gold - candy or flowers to the next string, loaded water ballons (representing nitro) from a cooler to a bucket and many more things. Everyone enjoyed those things. I have seen where you have a 10-10-4 stand and deliver lose participants because everyone got bored with the same old thing. I agree we need to get or keep some fun things. That doesn't mean we have to do them on every stage but we have to keep it fun and interesting for everyone. When you look at each group of shooters for any match there is only a small percent that shoot the stages in a super fast time and as Snakebite stated, they will always be there. We cannot just cater to them, but we also must consider the vast majority of average shooters as well. IMHO if the only reason you go to a match is to win an award then you missed the whole point of the game. Consider what we see in the the "Brief History of SASS" posted on the SASS Website: Men, women, and children have all shared the benefits of the unique shooting design that focuses more on our American history, camaraderie and the safe recreational use of firearms instead of pure competition. How far do we want to drift away from this? JMHO Charlie
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