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Widder’s right. You talk a lot.

Got most of my stuff packed and ready to go. Still got a few things in the laundry, but they’ll be ready in another hour or so. The foot doctor has warned me that if I mess up her work, she’s gonna do radical surgery on my cranium!! She added some extra padding in my bandage and the walking boot. Between the folks at Ponderosa Pines and and all my Posse Ten compadres, I think I’ll be well cared for and watched after.

AGREE. Surely with an appeal, somebody in the club should have know the correct rules governing this type situation. RESHOOT. Misses do not carry over. AND........ TO needs to take a refresher course, assuming the TO has ever taken any courses. ..........Widder

The TO should not have stopped the shooter. The shooter should have gotten a reshoot. The only penalty that carries over is a safety. Good lord.

Many tears ago one of the OR gun clubs had board members that were very hesitant regarding allowing CAS shooting on their range. Particularly the use of loading tables oriented into side berms. I provided copies of the SHB and RO1 course materials to them and attended a board meeting to answer questions emphasizing the many safety protocols that SASS has in place. SASS/CAS has been one of that club's most popular disciplines for many years since. (a number of the original Wild Bunch members have attended annual matches there in the past, including the OR State match at one time).

Ole TW always goes undercover when he goes to a liquor store.....Baptists don't recognize anybody when they are in the liquor store. Kajun (what is a Baptist but only imbibes occasionally for medicinal purposes only)

Crimp die needs adjusted. This happened to me when I was using mixed manufacturers. I now use Starline exclusively and after adjusting for these I have not had a problem. I also crimp in a separate stage to reduce this problem.

I know this post is 'stealing' the thread, but I gotta share this with the Wire Pards. For about 4 or 5 years now, TW and I will get together to sell a gun or swap a gun, etc..... and in the process, we usually meet somewhere we can have a good meal. Now, for all these times we've met, TW would always order 3 beers. Really. And A couple years back, I ask him.....'WHY do you always order 3 beers'? TW told me that when his 2 brothers moved out west (Texas and Montana), they agreed to have a beer for each other when they were able. The 2 extra beers were to honor his brothers..... and they in turn did the same when they were somewhere to get a drink. Anyhow, last week, TW and I met in Murfreesboro cause I was buying a nice varmint scope from him. At the restaurant, TW only orders 2 beers. Naturally, in my best somber voice, I expressed my condolences on what appeared to be that one of his brothers had passed away. TW says: Oh No! its nothing like that. You see, my wife made me join a Baptist Church and now I can't have one for myself". Another true story..... cause you just can't make this stuff up! ..........Widder

Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick · Just in time for the feast day. St. George knows it takes at least a week on the spit to get dragon just right. (With lemon!) Also, eating dragons is Biblical (Ps. 74:14). I thought that the style of the icon looked Ethiopean/Eritrean. Святой Отец Георгий Моли Бога о нас.

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“The Kilted Killer’s” flashy battle attire and relentless tenacity earned him a 30,000 Franc bounty on his head for whichever German could kill him first.” “Sir Tommy Macpherson made it through the entire war despite the Germans’ determination to take him out — even orchestrating the surrender of 23,000 German troops at the Das Reich Headquarters by bluffing that the Royal Air Force would unleash hell if they didn’t cooperate. In reality, Machpherson was alone and the RAF had no idea he was there, but he still managed to convince German Gen. Botho Henning Elster to give up his men and vehicles. Macpherson walked away from World War II as the The UK’s most decorated living soldier in history, earning the Military Cross for his escape from a Nazi prison camp in Poland, a papal knighthood and two bars for his valiant — and unusual — service.” Story by Emma Liem - We are the mighty

As usual, I agree with half of what you said. Widder is not right!

Lo Bueno Lo Malo y Lo Feo

I generally remove the primers when doing rifle cases. I have not gone to that trouble for pistol brass. So far no stuck primers. And you really don't want to wet tumble with the new primers in place.

If you can, seat and crimp in 2 separate stations. Make sure you are using enough case mouth flare to let the bullet enter.

Don't wet tumble with the fired primers in place

Yes, that is due to pressure applied to the bullet that then transfers to the case, crumpling it Usually a seat and crimp in one die causes this. Although if you are not careful, even a two die set seating with one and crimping with the other can still be adjusted to crush a long case. Along with cases of varying lengths. The longest cases have the mouth tight up against the crimp groove's top. Crimping then means that there is no place for the mouth of the case to turn into the groove. So the case gives way. You also have more crimp than is needed. Back off the seater stem to let the mouth come to the middle of the bullet's crimp groove, and back off the die itself to lessen the AMOUNT of crimp being formed. You may need to do this in two steps. Back off both the die body and the seater stem by a turn or two. Lower the seater stem of the die to put the edge of the mouth in the middle of the crimp groove. Then lower the die body (and slightly raise the seater stem before) until you form enough crimp turn in to hold the bullet. Now the die body is set. Try the next bullet by adding back the same amount of rotation that you took off the stem, back onto the stem. Check that you still have a good crimp and it's located a business card thickness below contacting the bullet band right above the crimp groove. You have to have that "free space" between the mouth and the band of lead to prevent contact and the crushing. good luck, GJ

Are you using a combination seat/crimp die? This has happened to me before when I have the die body screwed too far down such that the crimp starts being applied before the seating action is completed. I still use the combo dies but I make double sure they're backed off enough not to crimp, and I then crimp in a separate station.

Is it possible that you are way over crimping?

Check your cases after each station on the press to find where it’s happening! Also spot check your brass to be sure that the cases don’t need trimming!!

I will definitely post them I was actually going to take the gun and make it into a “fitz special” Thank you for the heads up I called Smith and Wesson right after I saw this post they’re sending me for screws free of charge to make sure that one of them fitsThank you for the heads up I called Smith and Wesson right after I saw this post they’re sending me for screws free of charge to make sure that one of them fits

That happened to me with some 32 HR mag cartridges - changed bullet profile cause it was what I had but they wouldn’t chamber all the way. Didn’t do what @Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 does - reseated and had that sliver of lead around mouth. They chambered FINE! It was unloading them that was a pain. I was at a match so I got my handy dandy pocket knife and removed the offending sliver! Fortunately, I did NOT have 600! I am usually smarter than that - you change one thing - you CHECK that it’s gonna work. Lesson learned! Big hugs! Scarlett

Would PETA have complained?

That's a little disillusioning, you know? Seeing those sheep in the background implies that George was hunting dragon over bait. Very unsportsmanlike.

You are hitting the puller too hard! I just finished reseating about 150 rounds that loaded 0.100" too long. That puller is 10 years old and has probably pulled thousands of rounds by now, including some mil surplus rifle rounds. good luck, GJ

Someone should stampede a herd of cattle through that camp.

This was the name of the SASS Florida State Championship match for many years. We are preparing to reintroduce “The Last Stand” (TLS) for 2025. The Roughshod Raiders is planning to host TLS the first weekend of April (the 3rd-6th) 2025 at Shoot GTR in Gainesville, FL. We will endeavor to present the highest level of Cowboy, Action, and Shooting that we can create. Several of the original TLS committee members along with many newer Florida shooters are combining our experience and enthusiasm to make next year’s Florida State match one to put on your calendar! More details to follow soon… Delta Glen, Santa Fe River Stan, Arcadia Outlaw and the TLS Committee

Will try this. TM

Have a great time!

My dehydrator is over 20 years old and only takes an hour and a half to dry the brass. I do empty the water out of them first!

This Post is being submitted SOLELY for the appreciation of this little girls ability to tell a detailed story with gestures, facial expressions and voice variations. (The content is not meant to violate any SASS Forum guidelines.)

So, this is just my opinion obviously and is worth only what you paid me. Let's break down the mechanics of why it doesn't work for ME. Some transitions look wonderful on paper but fail to show up on the timer. To ME, that transition depends on 2 factors, and a third factor comes into play on similar transitional movements. The first is the direction and how far it is between the pistol position and the shotgun position. The second is the difference in time between your strong to weak side pistol transition and your weak to strong side pistol transition. The third factor that comes into play on similar transitions is whether it takes you longer to shoulder your shotgun or grab 2 shells and get them into position(I'll explain that one in a minute). 1st main factor- direction and distance. When I fire the last shot of my last revolver I want to MOVE! If I'm moving one or two steps, counting my reach I am picking up my rifle as my left pistol is finishing being holstered. This accomplishes a couple things that going weak side first does not. One is it gets my shotgun shouldered quicker because I'm not moving my right hand all the way from my holster to the rifle to pick it up and two is it puts my weak hand that I grab my shells with at my holster, which is within an 8" circle of my shells which in turn creates a straight line from holster to shells to shotgun.(I like my transitional hand movements to be within a 12" max circle at all times). If someone hasn't moved one step by the time they holster, they're moving too slow or are holstering before they move. A by-product benefit of strong side P first on long movement (assuming right handed and moving to the right) is it greatly diminishes the chance of breaking the 170 either actual or perceived by the over-zealous spotter because you will be holstering your left pistol while moving to the right. Holstering your right pistol while moving to your right is chancy. 2nd main factor-Difference in strong to weak P transition vs weak to strong side P transition. While making less of a difference, it does still come into the equation. My right hand to left hand transition on a good day is half a second. My left to right transition is more like a second and I run the risk of pulling too quick. That can be remedied by more practice. 3rd main factor for similar transitions. Grab shells vs shoulder shotgun. So the accepted fact for the duelist category is we should be more able to do 2 things at once. I take that a step further and decide which 2 things I should be doing simultaneously. Case in point, Rifle to Shotgun transition on a stand and deliver stage. Should the duelist lay the rifle down with the left hand or the right hand? That my friend depends on the duelist. Specifically whether it takes them longer to draw 2 shells or shoulder the shotgun. Whichever takes the longest time should be done simultaneously while the rifle is being discarded. If it takes them longer to get a good grab on their two shells with the left hand, the rifle should be discarded with the right hand(again discarded within that 12" circle of hand movement to pick up the shotgun). If it takes them longer to pick up the shotgun, they should discard the rifle left handed(again 12" circle of the shells to grab although it's close on this one) while they're picking the shotgun up. Make sense? You have 3 things to do. The 2 that overlap needs to include the one item that takes the longest time. I'm by no means saying duelists shouldn't be able to draw the weak side first, I'm just saying your scenario doesn't work for ME. It definitely does for others. Like Randy and Widder said. Go fast! I sure didn't mean to type this much but I can talk transitions all day, so sorry about that.

Couldn't even put Carol Burnett or any other show from that era one...and that Is a crying shame.

That was Andrew Young, Jimmy Carter’s U.N. Ambassador.

I attempted to muddle through that 466 page rule last nite , it be as clear as MUDDY water , over reach and circle talk at it's finest should be struck down in court , fact is it should have never been written , just like all the rest of the gun control crap NFA34 , GCA68 , Brady , flys in the face of the 2nd , 4th , 5th , 8th , 10th and the 14th Administs CB but ya gotta live with it , unless ya want to stay long twerm in the GRAYBAR Hotel

You couldn't take a step to the left?