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Ahhhh the good old SASS wire.

A few days ago our VFW post was visited by some allied troops; members of 132 Battery (Bengal Rocket Troop) R.A. They had finished some training down in New Mexico and took some time to tour this area of the Southwest. They left a nice wreath at our veterans memorial. Unfortunately we didn’t know they were stopping by so we were unable to give them a proper welcome. They took some nice pics of Moab and Arches Natnl Park among others. I wish I had known they were here. Coulda whipped up some Spotted Dick or Bangers and Mash. Here’s a link to their page for those of you who are on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/thebengals132/

Well for one thing, the servers, technicians and software that keeps the SASS Wire running. For another, the staff that handles all the day to day operations, keeps track of all the alias' so that there's no duplication, who get those SASS badges and Regulator badges made. The staff that publishes the many Handbooks, SHB, RO courses, WB HB, WB RO courses, Cowboy Clays, multiple translations, that the ROC works so diligently on throughout the year. The ones who represent SASS at many gun shows and gatherings across the country, the same ladies that haul steel so folks can shoot EoT. The staff that makes the Chronicle that everybody can see... it doesn't layout and publish itself. The staff that battles local politicians and disgruntled neighbors that want to close down Founders Ranch. The ones who work tirelessly behind the scenes keeping an organization going, without much thanks from it's members...

WAAYYY too much thinkin! Let's get out and shoot somethin!

And don't forget the exorbitant salary Pale Wolf is hauling down .........

No, only one forward pass per play and before he could get it off he’d have been sacked for a loss.

I found a copy of the receipt that the JP gave me after he married us (July 16, 1965). It was for $12.50. I gave two ladies we took off the elevator to be witnesses another $2.00 each. 51 years of marriage for less that $20.00. Helluva bargain, I'd say.

A "non-profit" organization such as SASS only has to report its financials to the IRS. And while a non-profit they have to make a profit to keep the business floating. Profit is used for investing in the company for improvements, equipment replacements etc. They can still pay competitive salaries, benefits and bonus's. Otherwise why would Misty and the others work for SASS. As a non-profit they are not a charity. Non-profit can be defined as an organization or business who's mission is to promote something, in this case national competitive shooting with a historical element, that benefits the community. Thats how our club got its non-profit status with the Fed's and the State. They do not have to publish their financials as a public document for anyone to view. If they did you would see line items not detail. As in Labor $xxx,xxx. Not Misty's salary is $12.59. SO when those who make a statement, 'we need better communication and transparency', what are you looking for? Remember this isn't a governmental organization or a publicly held company. It's still a privately owned business.

No, they wouldn’t pay more They’d be grousing about it just the same. There are ways to be heard just give SASS a call and share your concerns, very easy to do.

I don't think you're smart enough to offend..... Matter of fact, I'm surprised you even know how to type..... Now, beat that! ..........Widder

Doesn't seem to be an exorbitant amount. We're very fortunate to have this organization to keep our sport going. I'm sure it's just as challenging to manage cash flow & keep the biz going as it is any other business. Please insert, "Pleases" & "Thank-you's" where appropriate in my next statement, I don't think it's our business to see an accounting of how the money is spent. If it fees good, do it. If it doesn't feel good, maybe take up bowling or something.

Mom passed away a week ago. While going through her things, we found the hospital bill from when I was born in 1952. Room and board: $8.50 per day. Delivery room: $20.00. Baby care $3.00 a day pharmacy: $.040 to $1.50. Lab work $2.00. Grand total: $63.60.

Buckle up buttercup cause this was just my first post

Me too, but I was there with a warrant..

And folks ask what our SASS fees are getting them...

Like this?

Here I am minding my own business and I get dragged in to something. And, I was gonna be nice. On a side note, Widder. I really like what you've done with your hair...how do you get it to grow out of your nose that way?

When we adopted Booker our Belgian Malinois/German Shepherd mix, the rescue agency said we had our work cut out for us. He had some obedience issues. Then we met the lady who fostered him. She told us "I tried to talk to him but he wouldn't listen". His second night with us, I pulled a chicken I roasted out of the oven and put it on the stove to cool while I set the table. Uno walked into the kitchen just as Booker was pulling the chicken off the stove and onto the floor. Uno grabbed Booker's collar, rolled him onto his back, got in his face and growled at him. Booker's eyes got huge. That's the last time we had a problem with any food being stolen from anywhere.

I started shooting SASS back in 2006 at the Plum Creek Shooting Society outside Lockhart, Texas. Back then it was about costuming and having fun. Life forced me out of the game until this year. Fortunately, at 58, I am able to handle the burden of acquiring new guns, leather, and costuming. I visited two different clubs before making the initial investment of re-entering the game. I was amazed and baffled at the target shapes and locations. I was also amazed at the speed of some of the shooters. I went to YouTube and watched what i could about CAS and SASS. I was pretty sure that there was no way I would be able to compete because all I saw was folks doing things with there guns that seemed impossible. Everything I saw was how fast these folks could cycle the guns. I was impressed by the skill level but unsure I should try and get back into the game. After all, I didn't have THAT much disposable income to fancy-pants my guns. I made the decision to go ahead and get back in the game. To heck with the prizes...I like dressing in full cowboy garb and I like shooting. I am concerned that if all anyone sees on the webs is the best of the best...they might think it is a sport for elite shooters. There are lots of normal folks shooting and having fun but it seems we only concentrate on the top-tier folks. We all like watching highlight reels but, for those that aren't familiar with the game, some average and everyday video examples might just help those on the fence. Just thinking out loud.

Poor Patriot, he gets upset over spilt milk. Nobody like Sedalia Dave. Thats why he misses out on everything. Poor Eyesa. He's a Borg but he don't know how to spell it. 40 don't know how to spell "Crap". And Calamity Kris only friend is J.Mark, who really don't have any friends. ..........Widder (how am I doing now?)

With the $$ we have tied up in equipment, is $65 a year really that big a deal. It's the parent organization, it has dues... move on

What is the money I pay for two adult and three children's memberships used for? All $135 of it, for five memberships. I don't know. I also don't care. Misty may be lighting Montecristo cigars with $50 dollar bills for all I know, doesn't matter to me. I also don't know what my water company is doing with the $35 I send them every month, or what my insurance company is doing with that money, nor do I care to know. I do know my water works and I have insurance. I know I can shoot in any SASS matches I want to and have the opportunity to do so 5 to 6 times a month.

I will try to offend more today as some of you seem disappointed. Widder, you would do well to learn the difference between offend and insult. Of course living where you do it might be hard to find a dictionary, or someone to read it to you.

There were a couple of reasons for the initial high-accident rate in the B-26: First, the recommended approach speed was placarded too low! Second, the original wing area was too small. The wings were lengthened and the approach speed was increased. Because so many pilots were afraid of the aircraft, Gen. Hap Arnold asked Jackie Cochran to wring out the aircraft, which she did, discovering the too-low approach speed as part of the problem. "If a woman can fly it..." Of course Jackie Cochran was a fantastic pilot (later, first woman to break the sound barrier), and in those days, a female pilot successfully taking on "The Widow Maker" did the trick psychologically for the male pilots. Jackie Cochran, it should be recalled was head of the Women's Air Service Pilots.

$65 just barely fills my car with gas in California. It will just cover the cost of dining out for two at a decent restaurant. Ain't nobody getting rich off of this. And since my retirement from the ROC I haven't received even one retirement check.... it was and is done for the Love of the Game. SASS is one of the best values in entertainment that I have ever seen. Thousands of volunteer hours are donated to SASS every year around the country because of the joy derived from being a part of the CAS Family. No, everything is not done the way I would like to see it done, but it is being done by those that have a much better grasp of the Big Picture. It is to everyone's best interest to strongly support SASS. If clubs decided to go it on their own, it might work for a while, but the fact is, those that don't directly support SASS are just riding the coat tails of those who do. Running SASS is indeed a business, and all businesses have salaries to pay and other expenses. This thread may be well intended, but IMO it sounds like a part of the Democratic agenda. Snakebite

You do know that PaleWolf and all the members of the ROC are volunteers right? They do this for the love of the game, and sometimes someone says. "Thank you".

"You're gonna need a bigger box"..... ..........Widder

Well, heck! I sure get tired of the folks that are so darn worried about getting their moneys worth for a measly $65 a year membership fee. Good grief! I don't understand how SASS maintains operations with such a small individual fee. My thanks to SASS and the staff.

Keep typing Widder. Chances are you'll say something intelligent eventually. I tell you what, if I wanted to kill myself I'd climb up your ego and jump down to your IQ. Now, that's funny I dont care who you are!

I'd forgotten about that guy, Doc. Thanks for the post! I still have my copy of "Flying Fortress" by Edward Jablonski that I bought in 1965. It recounts Zeamer's mission as well as others of some amazing pilots in both theaters of war.

This thread is A major disappointment

Back then there weren't but 10 laws. Widder is so old, the first time he seen a rainbow it was in black and white.

Got a nice one in 44 WCF.

I pay dues and compete in SASS, IDPA, ASI, GSSF, ATA, NRA, and Leetown IWLA. Total annual cost for dues is $310 or about $25 a month. My weekly trap shell cost is more than that. Don't even want to get into the ammo cost for all the other shooting activities or almost worse, the travel cost for these activities. Am retired and have the time to do what I like. Don't worry about the organizations that allow me to do my thing. Just glad they exist.

I just had a great idea! We'll sign up some young shooters by marketing the match as some kind of live action gaming system. It's so advanced, not only do you not see the wires, you don't even need wireless controllers! It operates on brainwaves and body movements alone! Yep, this is the next generation in gaming. Almost impossible to tell from the real thing.

Hmmm... the warm fuzzy feeling of "belonging" isn't enough?

I think if we limit ourselves in scope of search - we limit what we may find. I'm not sure changes "within" our game that only our current participants will notice will do anything to make us grow or bring in the next generation. That's why I don't believe moving the pistol targets out three yards further or doing the hokey pokey is the path to growth or that the cessation of same is the reason for our decline. I believe our future is digital. Networking, partnering and marketing. Exposure is the cure for most things. We need a strong YouTube presence. This presence needs to be done with a goal and direction to every piece of marketing placed upon it. A singular message about our game and invitation to participate. It's time that the Chronicle goes to video magazine format. This can be augmented and supported by linking to the myriad of independent channels - JediTV comes immediately to mind. We need a presence on other YouTube channels: Hickok 45, Yankee Marshal, etc. purport to be or to have been cowboy action shooters. They have millions of views and 1000's upon 1000's of subscribers - it's time to partner up or request their help. Wolf Bane is still appearing on TV regularly on various shooting shows. So we have a contact. SASS needs to step forward in cooperation with our firearms equipment manufacturers and importers to get cowboy action back on TV in some manner (a show, a segment or just Larry Potterfield talking about adjusting point of aim on a single action). We need a poster presence thru Scully, Ariat, Stetson, etc. in every Western wear and boot store in the US. Why is there not a single mention of cowboy action shooting in my local Boot Barn? They're selling the shirts to play the game - but not mentioning the game? If I purchase certain brands of firearm - I get literature to join the NRA. Am I getting the same pamphlet in every Ruger Vaquero, Henry, Uberti, Pietta, Stoeger, Rossi to join SASS? Isn't our survival in their best interest as well? Comic Con visitors and Video gamers are young and have disposable financials. A booth or exposure might do wonders. A pamphlet about SASS in Red Dead Redemption might gain a few eyes - especially in conjunction with a digital platform allowing immediate exposure online. If the six degrees of separation actually exists then many of us know folks in positions of power, influence or exposure. These folks may not have anything that directly connects to our game - but perhaps there are tangential connections that we might use to raise exposure? A spark in a rainstorm means little; but that same spark in a forest of dried timber can become a raging fire. We only need to see and pounce on the chance.