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Yes, you lose to the shooters who didn't blow any stages, have no rifle jams, had no dud pistol rounds, didn't drop shotgun shells, and had no procedurals. Total time is the best and most fair way to go. --Dawg

Out into the darkness and gunfire in the middle of the night. Bless em all.

As we pause to remember the extraordinary events of D-Day and especially honor those who fought there and the national recognition observed during the just passed Memorial Day due to those who gave their all, I recall hearing numerous speeches over the years that used the word “glory” when referring to or attempting to describe the struggle--not so much these days, but in past years this was more common. I couldn't help but take note that most if not all those who used that word never experienced war themselves first hand. It was mostly political figures that were apt to characterize the events in just such a way. In my experience, I've seen one and only one glorious thing about war and that is the heart and soul of those soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines who fought it. Those who took to heart John 15:13 even if they weren't particularly religious by nature or upbringing. It just seemed to come naturally: “There is no greater love than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.” They fought for no flag, no political objective nor any noble cause other than the one who stood on their left and the one who stood on their right. That was the only thing I could personally characterize as glorious about the hellish business of war. Anytime I ever spoke of soldiers in a formal address to a large group or at a small informal gathering, I admit to getting a bit emotional. I can't help it nor will I apologize for it. There is no glory in any war save that which is found in the heart of those who faced it first hand. As we remember D-Day, let's honor those hearts and souls who were willing to lay down their lives for their friends. Just the view from my foxhole...

The Normandy landings were the landing operations on Tuesday, 6 June 1944 of the Allied invasion of Normandy in Operation Overlord during World War II and often referred to as D-Day, it was the largest seaborne invasion in history. The amphibious landings were preceded by extensive aerial and naval bombardment and an Airborne Assault—the landing of 24,000 US, British, and Canadian airborne troops shortly after midnight. That means 75 years ago the airborne troops were making their way to their drop zones while the men aboard ship were getting ready to disembark and load their landing craft The Greatest Generation about to invade Fortress Europe

I'd quit if we didn't keep score...…..what would be the point? You don't have to worry about your score if you don't want to......it's optional.

I agree with PWB. The shooter created the situation. Here's an alternative that happened over a decade ago. At a regional match one year the shooter started with a big fringed blanket in both hands (I was the Posse Marshal and TO at the time). At the buzzer, drape it over the fence, shoot 1 pistol, shoot rifle, move position for other pistol. After pistol 1 and rifle, the shooter started to move, I called a "cease fire". The fringe of the blanket was tangled up on the hammer of the "hot" pistol and had cocked it. Had he continued to move, the cocked and loaded pistol would have been pulled from the holster and dumped to the ground. I called a reshoot for prop failure - the Match Director verified the call at the scene. Doc

I have to admit, I was one of the advocates for TT. I didn't know any better at the time. After quite a few matches and seeing the results of the switch to TT and hearing from the veterans of this sport, I have finally come to the realization I was wrong. Total time sucks. If you blow one stage, you can blow the whole match. One rifle jam, one dud pistol round, one dropped shotgun shell one procedural and you can drop from 1st to 5th... I say we go back to the old rank system...

I think our scoring system should be based on a 'Handicap' scoring system and each stage should carry a variable difficulty rank. Your individual 'Handicap' would be based on your age and boot color. The stage 'Variable Rank' would be based on how many misses, 'P's, etc..... is earned by each Posse on that particular stage. The larger the posse, and the color of their boots, would also factor into the Variable Rank. Its that simple..... ..........Widder

That’s funny, I don’t care who you are.

Maybe he is trying to sell the idea? GW

I get timed with a calendar anyway, so it doesn't matter to me.

Thought I'd start a new thread about our trip. We had some minus tides the last few days and we went clamming yesterday on a -4' tide at about noon. Went 25 miles across the bay to some tidal flats. These razor clams are fast diggers. When you start to dig the sand, they dig even deeper, fast. Worked my 77 year old butt off! Got plenty, so there will be some great eating ahead. Absolutely stunning scenery too!

White popcorn kernals air popped, drizzled with melted butter and a little salt is the only way to go! Can't tell you the last time I had microwave popcorn, gross!

I know what to do....let's move our late 1800's sport into the world of today. We shoot, no scoring, no winners, no losers, and everyone gets a participation trophy.......problem solved.

My uncle, who got a bronze star, was in the second wave that hit the beach! He never told us about his Bronze Star until he was in his 80's and it was because at my aunt's funeral we saw it on their headstone and we asked him about it. Apparently he rescued a guy that was wounded and under machine gun fire. (He had his name and birthdate on the headstone with the Bronze Star insignia carved in it.)

It was very kind of you BSB to post this Winter question for us Aussies, as we role into our Winter and you hit Summer I was thinking maybe we can develop a Standard Deviation or Bell Curve system so that every child wins a prize

Do u cook your popcorn by total time?

Grandpa was with the 5th Rangers that went up Pointe du Hoc the greatest generation. Rafe

Does anyone want more popcorn or another rootbeer? This could be another loooonnnnng rerun from long ago......

H..rumpf... bunch of "johnny-come-latelys"... What we need is "Frontiersman Gunfighter"!

This is from the official US Army report from December 1942 where they used a captured Zero and tested against the aircraft available at the time and in the San Diego area. Link to the story: https://www.warbirdforum.com/diego.htm Link to the actual December 1942 report: https://www.warbirdforum.com/diego.pdf It matches everything I've read in other books, to summarize: the American pilot should keep their speed above 300 mph and to avoid dog fighting the Zero should use rolls, high speed reversals and power dives. The P-47 was not evaluated, but I would expect the results would be similar to the P-38F due it's very good rate of roll, incredible dive speeds and very good high altitude performance.

U.S. Embassy FranceLike Page June 6, 2015 at 1:30 AM · #Aujourd’hui en 1944, 73000 soldats américains débarquaient sur les plages de #Normandie. 6603 furent tués lors du #débarquement / #Today in 1944, 73,000 American forces landed in Normandy on #DDay. 6,603 died

Utah Bob, The Original Lumpy Gritz, Lawdog Dago Dom, Black Angus McPherson and all my pards who serve and have served as law enforcement I humbly apologize for being a flippant arse in regards to my comments regarding the “Cop Humor” thread. My intent was to make a point about some bad interactions with police I have had but in making that point I alienated and impugned some of the people I admire and have great respect for. That was not my intention and I truly apologize for my comments. Please accept my apology. Kindest and most respectful regards, Pat Riot

Since there has been some interest here regarding both the commemoration of the 75th anniversary of D-Day and Old Ironsides, I thought some might find this story an interesting intersection of the two; play the video to see her fire off her forward two guns. She can make smoke! https://www.wcvb.com/article/uss-constitution-to-set-sail-to-commemorate-75th-anniversary-of-d-day/27771595 For some additional salutes: And for a view below decks while firing: LL

Not to mention the ability to shoot in low light and no light conditions. That thing could shoot unsuspecting wedding goers and birthday party attendees! Think of the children!!

And it has "Quick Detach" barrels ,,,, and it's almost noiseless and can shoot multiple shots ( as many as 50 ) per trigger pull.... and can shoot over 2,500 shots per loading ... Jabez Cowboy

I';m in with popcorn and as drink to see how this thread now takes a header. Heck, do away with time. The winner is the last guy to be able to walk away from the campfire after the match.

1900GMT. LT Robert Harrsch, my great uncle, was loading his men and weapons in a Horsa glider in preparation for a dawn drop into France. RIP Uncle Bob.

If the doc throws you into that place with the big H, can I have your ticket to Constitution?

If your heart does not jump a bit upon reading that letter, you need to check your pulse. LL

We tried to have a "fun match" on a day other than our regular monthly. The plan was no timers, no scores recorded, mix categories (shoot one stage Wild Bunch, next something else and so on), shoot stages as many times as time allowed. BUT NO! We had a good turnout but the majority couldn't get with the program. HAD to keep scores. So had to time and record. Had to send out results. Had to shoot stage only one time. In short, just another match. Most just shot the category style they always shot. I shot every stage a different way. I shot one stage Josey Wales and Wild Bunch. I stoked my 97 and shot 1911 on handgun targets and then pistols gunfighter on rifle targets. After a bit, they started loosening up and started borrowing 1911s and trying things outside the box. Lots of laughing. Boy! That was fun! Well, yeah. Now you getting it.

Dad was in the 82nd Airborne for that excursion. Having toured North Africa and Italy at government expense before that. Salute to those brave service men and women of the Allied forces! Good luck, GJ Photo from a Paris photographer's studio, about Feb 1945

He’s 91-years-old and served in World War II.

I load all my pocket pistol ammo on a single stage press. It's not worth all the trouble to set up a progressive for 50-100 rounds a year. Some say you need to use .361 diameter for 38 S&W, I've used .358 diameter 105's for years with success.

Going to shift the discussion. Why do you want a light weight revolver? Felt recoil will be higher. The lightest guns will be in 45 Colt. The hole is bigger so there's less metal weight. However, the weight of the cartridge adds up.

Me thinks we are getting our leg pulled a bit..

102° here today! Is this post about popcorn?

Yes Please, another large popcorn with the butter and salt layered.

extra butter, no salt please....

It hit 100 darn degrees here today. I thought Winter was over.

Think of it this way.......You're in a gunfight, your gun jams, you get kilt, yer dead! Every stage is a gunfight! Total time is the way to go!!

PLUS ONE to Prairie Dawg Oh ... Wait .... I didn't really contribute. Rank Points Sucked. There IT IS. Oh, back to PLUS ONE to Prairie Dawg. PLUS ... It's basically simple. Don't miss. Don't trip and fall. Don't drop yer guns. Don't Fumble yer shotgun loading. Don't have a Train Wreck and still expect to win. Poor Baby

Let's beat this dead horse for about 20 pages just like the last time If the Match organizers would just give everybody a buckle in their shooters packet thete would be no need for any awards and everyone could leave earlier . Think of how much fun this game would be if there were no timers and no scores recorded. Now that I have stirred the pot and threw more wood on the fire ,I will sit back and watch Have a good day all

Comin’ right up!

Wrist surgery is not something that I like, but I have had three of them. One to repair ruptured tendons when I lost an argument with a 3000 pound blast proof door and two for carp - in - a - tunnel syndrome. All of them came out OK. I was very serious about doing the therapy and suggest that you be also. Good luck with the surgery and you will be back to normal very soon. Duffield

Same could be said for a stock Uberti Rifle or a number of other items we use in this game. I went 4 years on the original wheels and probably could have went even longer, but now I have a much better handling cart and a set of backup wheels. Totes